This Visit To Pakistan

Re: Spout

``Another thought: Canada is a very large country, much larger than India, and it`s prostitution rate is peanuts compared to India`s.``

Don`t strain your brain too much but by large we are talking about population not land area. Of course that subtle leap of logic was a little too much for you.

Yes everyone see for yourself...

http://www.siqafat.cjb.net

These fundoo tactics against me wont work!

Also

http://www.spindoctor.web.com

and

http://www.ylh.cjb.net

As far as posting as someone else... everyone at Rutgers knows... that YLH, Yasser Hamdani, Observer and Grey Wolf are all my nicks though people use them in order to embarrass me...

Neurogen,

There has been a systematic smearing campaign by the Islamic Fundamentalists at Rutgers against me.

For your information I have never written as anyone else... Whatever statements were made, were made in reaction to the constant bickering by the ISRU people. They assaulted me twice, and had you read the topic of that particular post, it was ``Yasser gets slapped ISRU wins the war``.

Now either you are extremely stupid, or you are from Rutgers...

The Islamic Fundamentalist fools at Rutgers have taken it upon them to terrorize me and my friends... they hit Faran the president of Siqafat, and they attacked Farhaj manytimes... then they Hacked the Siqafat message Board and erased all messages...

The mother-cursing was started by the ISRU people.

Solitude,

I am afraid you just present oneside of the picture...what happened in Kaaba was sociopolitical necessity... A monotheistic Faith with Kaaba its center was required to rid its holiest place of Symbol of ancient Paganism.....

However, Art forms and religious symbols of other communities have survived and have been protected

by Muslims a lot of the times if they have been destroyed at other times....

Ancient statues, and figures in Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Pakistan, are examples of this. After all the statues in Afghanistan also survived through out the Muslim rule .....

Amr ibn Aas was the ruler of Egypt in the times of Umar the second caliph. In Alexandria, I believe, there was a big statue of Jesus Christ, which was left unharmed by the Muslims.... one stupid Muslim Zealot broke the nose of that statue at night... Next day there was a lot of Hue and cry ... and the christians took their case to Amr ibn Aas... Placed in such a drastic position, Amr apologized and asked what he could do as rectification. The Christians demanded that a statue of Muhammad should be made and then the nose of that statue should be broken...Amr was infuriated but he controlled his temper, and offered to have his own nose cut instead ... when the ruling was being carried out the Zealot ran out and admitted his deed...

Jamaatis really shouldnt be talking... they were the enemies of Pakistan back when Pakistan was being formed, and they are the enemies of Pakistan today!

YLH,

``I have the greatest respect for every mother, sister and daughter...``

I would suggest everyone go to Siqafat and check out the article where YLH gets slapped and ends up crying.

Mr Hamdani claims in the replies section that he has fuked Junaid`s mother too. Not only that; he also disguises himself as someone else whilst making that comment...

YLH, do you something for mature women?

adnan_672,

``ur hatred for the commands of allah simply shows ur narow minded veiws.``

hatred is a strong word, please use it with caution. saying ``allah hafiz`` instead of ``khuda hafiz`` is not a command of Allah?

please grow up.

``u see u have made opposing allahs commands a complete religion.``

If we followed all of these so called ``commands`` half of which aren`t even in the Quran (they are in Hadiths), we`d go backwards instead of forwards in this progressive society.

Things change, this is not the century when the Quran shareef was written, the world is a dynamic place and we have to change with it.

``So long fanatics``

So long FUNDO!

rsuxena #371, ``As for prostitution, there are just more there because it is a larger country. Simple math.``

Wait a second, so where does this ``simple math`` go when you`re comparing India with Pakistan in various ways.

Another thought: Canada is a very large country, much larger than India, and it`s prostitution rate is peanuts compared to India`s.

So much for ``simple math.``

Please think before you post.

Shankar,

``Yasser`` is only as Arabic as the Word ``ummet`` is.

I am not against mutual borrowing but I am against arabicizing the language by continuing to use the Arabic pronounciation.

Arabs insist on calling me yeysir or yesir....

My name is Yasser.... pronounced ... Yaa-ser, the Urdu pronounciation...Great as Quaid e Azam Jinnah was... my destiny is linked with my own name.

Pakistan Zindabad

Yasser Hamdani

krashid:

Two pts i want to make

1. The jamaat joined the govt. as a means of enforcing shariat in the country

Zia was simply not doing that he wanted a political front so jamaat after this realization left.

2. This decision of jamaat was WRONG. Personally i m allergic to the army and consider it to be the no. 1 diesease affecting pakistani society. So any association with the army in my view is disasterous.

The democracy i wrote abt was an internal one. Jamaat btw is the only pol. org. which has elec. within its ranks.

(The ANP partly does so as well to keep the record st.)

adnan

A bigot is somebody who despises the other person for the latter`s ``beliefs``,colour, ethnicity, ...have no hatred towards people but only towards ideas that espouse hatred or looking-down on.....



UR statement

``Then, as I mentioned before, we will wait for you guys in Bengal where bigotry will not gain ac foothold until the Padma, Meghna, and Jamuna run red with the blood of freedom``

WAH WAH BHAI! this is precisely wht i want to make u ppl. say. To prove u are no better than the KKK.

btw i could write a lengthy article on wht the atrocities commited by mukti bahini, the murders rape etc etc. but i shall refrain from doing so bcos ur simply not ready to listen.

As for ur threats, in school we learnt empty vessels......

``I am content to let Allah set His limits and ordain his punishment. You or som.........``

But u mentioned drinking, wht does ur statement then mean pl. explain

``And Adnan, I have news for you: We will fight this bigot class at every turn``

I am petrified!

adnan

Rshivsena,

I can understand if you dont want to tell me what part of India youre from. But, PLEASE PLEASE dont tell me youre from my beloved Bombay!

O God! maybe youre related to Bal Thakrey! Buttheads like you are responsible for changing her name to Mumbai.

If you insist, go play kissy face with hamidm in Bhendi Bazaar or Kamhatipura.

ylh,

Isnt ``Yasser`` an Arabic name?! If so, you may have ``issues`` with your folks :) Maybe you should change your name to ``Jinnah Hamdani``--yeah! way to go, baby!

I must commend you for having matured a lot these past few months. Once in a while, the old ylh does show his stupid face, though. If Asif calls you a ``slave``, does that make you one?! Get real!

It takes maturity to apologise for making a boo boo. Many of us have:)

Re: spout

``Send me a ticket, I wanna go to Bombay, dammit.``

I think you would get smacked around if you showed up in Bombay chanting ``your morals are wrong`` and ``khuda hafiz`` and ``i am right`` and ``you, girl, put this burkha on and stop showing your ankles``

As for prostitution, there are just more there because it is a larger country. Simple math. Next time think before you look like a dolt trying to make a comeback.

re adnan 672

``ps: the democracy issue: bhai at least read the posting properly, i was talking abt democracy internally within jamaat, those opposed to an alliance with zia had to follow the verdict of the majority.``

A. Thanks for clarifying it. Something tells me that this clarification was an afterthought to my rejoinder. Nonetheless, I am happy that the Jamaat believes in some form of rudimentary democracy.

``btw jamiat launched a campaign against the ban on student unions, speaks volumes for indep. of IJT from Jamaat Is there another example of this in the student groups in pakistan??``

A. I don`t know and I don`t care. Frankly. if Hitlerjuegend agitated against a ban on student/youth unions, they are not likely to find much sympathy, are they?

``1. Dont u realize ur hatred makes u as much a bigot as any mullah.``

A. A bigot is somebody who despises the other person for the latter`s beliefs, colour, ethnicity, language etc. I do not fit in that categoty. I have no hatred towards people but only towards ideas that espouse hatred or looking-down on other religions, races, political philosophies, and ethnicities. The Jamaat and the rest of that class fit that bill, I don`t. You need a better debate teacher.

``2. I do not know abt the statement and of the moulana himself btw. but ill find out. Till then i take ur word and condemn this statement in unequivocal terms. It is indeed a shameful statement IF made by any mamber of jamaat.``

A. Maulana Delawar Sayeedi is a member of the Majlis-e-Shura of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh and one of that neo-Nazi party`s two MPs.

``3. My friend there r certain limits set forth by Allah. Drinking is expressly forbidden, so either come out in the open and declare that u have chosen to rebel against Allah or is it merely trying to gain attention by shccking?``

A. I am content to let Allah set His limits and ordain his punishment. You or some other human commits a preposterous shirk when he substitutes himself for the Almighty in matters of social mores and their punishment. If the above is indeed your true statement, you ought to seek forgiveness for major shirk-there is no greater sin in Islam.

``4. Try to be a true liberal, do not hate ppl. or groups, u may be opposed to them but hatered will get u nowhere.``

A. I have no intention of being a liberal, true or otherwise. I am a libertarian conservative, capitalist, Republican, who defends the most ancient idea of all, as mentioned by Thomas Jefferson, `All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...amongst these rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.` Questions?

``5. Finally i would like to point out, to other chowksters as well, that the statements abt the rt. wing in Pakistan which many make on chowk simply shows the narrow mindedness and bigoted mentality of the so called secular liberal elements.``

A. What you say is the `right wing` is neither right nor a wing. It is the dead wrong deadweight dragging Jinnah`s Pakistan into nightmare of a society where a select class of beareded and turbaned high-priests will decide every decision of every individual`s personal and collective life.

And Adnan, I have news for you: We will fight this bigot class at every turn, every debate, every spring. Pakistan may be lost but not without a fight. Then, as I mentioned before, we will wait for you guys in Bengal where bigotry will not gain a foothold until the Padma, Meghna, and Jamuna run red with the blood of freedom fighers. Keep in mind that we are still the Bengal Tigers who gave the Jamaat bigots a bloody nose a short thirty years ago.