This Visit To Pakistan

My doubt #326 was created by statements like Asif`s #263.

ylh#331

Agreed

Why is it that people are adept at pointing at the 5% extremists, when their own countrymen are the most notorious for destroying places of worship of the minority community, and then building their own places of worship on top of them!

Sadna,

First of all we are not an Islamic State... and secondly an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis believe in voting! So your question is out of line...

Saxena,

We had nothing to do with the world trade center bombing... As for our contribution, the ratio of

Computer nerds in the silicon valley of Pakistani to Indian is propotionally higher than the ratio of Pakistanis to Indians in this world....

Time to be fair.

Yasser Hamdani

PS

I go to Rutgers... it has one of the largest Arab student Populations in the US... I know Arabs too well, and the culture they promote in the guise of their Islamic Societies at Universities sponsored and funded by the Saudis!

Urstruly,

Did you read my last post?

I said 1) Urdu 2) Muslim Culture 3) South Asian Civilization... these are the three pivotal principles of Pakistani Nationalism!

I too believe in ``Ummet`` ... as an Economic Union based on the European Union, a

pseudo-confederation of Muslim Nations working together to alleviate societal ills, and poverty.

Ummet is not nation but a community of Nations with the same religious beliefs, Millet is Nation, and neither of these two are necessarily ``Watan`` based as the Asif Naqshbandi tries to present my views as, watan is simply the national homeland of ``Millet``... but ``Millet`` extends the borders of ``Watan``. Many Muslim Millets together make the Ummet!

Yasser Hamdani

Asif Naqshbandi,

I asked you not to call anyone my masters....

Now, listen you have earned my vengeance for all times....As for my honor, I lost it when I slept with your mother, and conceived you!

There is an 18-yo recent immgrant to the US who is going through some serious identity crises,and (I think) is need of some cultural lifelines and emotional support as she deals with some scary issues. She is from the Jackson Heights area. If anyone knows where she could find such help, pleae email me postmatser@yahoo.com.

Thanks,

P.M

rsaxena #319

...okay, i agree ... but that still doesn`t take away from the fact that heera mandi is a far better place than GP road .... our professional women, or whores as they are called in less sophisticated circles, are better than yours .. and in the end, that is all that matters ....... even the jihadis are dying for the company of celestial concubines .......

re asif n`s

``When we die we all will be questioned in arabic``

Don`t you worry guys, that`s a scare tactic. Under the provisions of the Sixth Amendment (fair trial et al) we will be provided with adequate translation. In fact, I am told that each guy gets a houri to be a personal translator. If that doesn`t work, find me because I`ll be happy to sub-contract out my Moroccan and Lebanese friends (minimum wage applies). Oh yes, payment accepted in dollars, euros, and pouns sterling only. DOn`t try to give me afghanis-they won`t work in the hereafter either.

Why is voting for creation of Pakistan taken to be a Godly sign for creation of a Islamic state but voting after an Islamic state is established considered unGodly?

YLH

That is not what you said in your earlier posts. I think you are paranoid about Arab Imeprialism. It is non exitent. Either you have never met Arabs or you are just exagarating it. We are as Punjabi as we can be-but we cant be Sikhs if that is what you want-sorry no can do. The concept of Ummah is as real and practical as the concept of Globalization. Open up your eyes and mind and look around-you will see it in the process of materializing.

ylh #307 In other words, what you are saying is to be natural, rather than putting on accents. Good advice.

sigalph #305 Actually the Quran does refer to itself as being an Arabic Quran. However, the explanation that is provided for the Quran as being in Arabic is the opposite of the way the mullahs explain it: this Quran is in Arabic, it says, in order to make the message understandable to people to whom the message was being delivered. The Quran explicitly states that it does not change anything from the message that was sent through the prophet Moses and through other prophets. (And indeed, in essence the basic message in all religions is the same even as their fanatics condemn one another). The importance lies in the message not the language. Nowhere in the Quran is Arabic given any special status over other languages, or this holy book in Arabic over holy books deliverd in other languages, or muslims any special status over other people (all individuals being subject to judgement on the Final Day) and it is explicitly noted that it is incorrect for people of any religion (including Islam) to consider themselves a chosen people. Or to associate their prophet with God in any way other than as a messenger who is charged with delivering a message. All this is is vast contrast to the beliefs held by many people who read the Quran without understanding.

Re: krashid

``Believe me I am not from Pakistan but Mars.``

Didn`t you say you were from Central Park?