This Visit To Pakistan

HamidM #103

Bhai Aap Ka Dua Qunoot Wala Lateefa Khoob Hai.

Mujhe Public Service Commission Ki Job Dua-e-Qunoot Sahi Sunane Ke Bawajood Nahin Mili.

Due to bad connection.

Hai Besharam Liberal. Dua-eQunoot Bhi Yaad Karte Hain Job Ke Liye. Khuda Ke Khauf Se Kabhi Koi Dua Yaad Ki Hai?

Asif Naqshbandi...

Leave Pakistan alone... the problem with Pakistan is that we have too many fools like yourself... we dont want your Pakistan Zindabad and your Islamism.

Hamidm and others,

What the hell do you have against Rutgers... I invite you all to visit me at Rutgers New Brunswick and see for yourself how good/bad it is!

Yasser

f_K, urstruly and asif naqshbandi

........ i wish you the best when you do move back to pakistan after the khilafat has been established at Qartaba ..... after the four remaining Ph.D`s leave you can get tenured positions in computer science so that you can use their machines to figure out the sighting of the eid moon ..... and when mian mansha and seth dawood leave you can move in the tabligi jamat along with their oily bed-rolls and tiffin -carriers into their corporate headquarters ..... of course you guys will have the bomb with which you can threaten the world ......and maybe,just maybe, cat stevens and the dancing boys from mardan will provide the entertainment when you entertain mullah omar and his holy warriors at the friday amputations and beheadings .........

temporal #101 Glad you appreciated the viewpoint presented in the post. Rather obvious, actually, and not that hard to implement other than by the congenitally corrupt or by retards.

Then the resident expert and observer spoke with great authority:

``candidates for a house-officers job at the decrepit institute of medical sciences are being asked to recite dua-i-qanoot ...... ``

well, well, well...It seems the Islamabadis have real hard time reciting / memorizing the dua` offered in the Ishaa Prayers. Why? Are they converts? Only the ones who are converts offer three quls than the dua`. This is the second time I have heard someone lamenting about it. Interesting!


``first semester engineering students are required to take islamiat before trignometry ........and on and on and on ``

Total Exaggeration! Yes, Islamiyaat and Pak Studies are taught all along the engineering curriculum, but it is never given preference over trignometry.

Hamidm: Your other facts and observations were great, but please do not get carried away.

Subha Bakhair!
&
Shukrun

PS: Thanks for volunteering to fly the fighter-jet that will safely drop Sadhna near the Pak-Afghan border. Very kind of you!

Re: Aicha #131

The Peter Principle is that everyone rises to his or her level of incompetence. E.g., a great salesman is promoted to regional sales manager and does a lousy job because he is a third-rate manager. Thus he is stuck in this position and never promoted again (or he is fired).


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Re: Zahra #137

I think that Hamidm`s point was that a person`s ability to remember religious rituals/prayers/dogma/superstitions has no bearing on his or her ability as a doctor or engineer or lawyer or accountant or whatever (other than a maulvi or theologan). The very fact that people are asked such irrelevancies is indicative of the priorities of the Urstruly`s, F_Ks, Naqshbandis and other obscurantists that are determined to put dogma over competence/knowledge.

I assume you think that mandatory Islamiat and Pakistan Studies are a good idea? I might be willing to go along with you here IF the classes were taught as real social science classes (open to some debate, dissension and opposing views) instead of exercises in mindless recitation and regurgitation. If we are to focus on memorization, I would rather that students memorize the Chain rule or F=M *A rather than the `fact` (as expounded by prize jackasses such as Maulana Abdul Sattar Niazi--see today`s Dawn) that Mr. Jinnah wanted Sharia as the basis of Pakistan`s constitution.

Regards.

Dionysus,

{{Do you see what I`m getting at?}}

I`m beginning to see bro! What your saying is that Pakistan is hopelessly isolated in the world. However, Pakistan taken up the self righteous duty to fight for the rights of Kashmiris. Of course, Inshallah, you will definitely prevail. If you guys think you can bleed India into submission, youre peeing in a headwind!.

Keep thumping your chest pal. I`m really amused by Pakistani testesterone & self delusion, I`ll give you that. Pakistan is under the delusion that it single handedly defeated the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Let me burst your bubble pal. Pakistan could`nt have done SQUAT without US military & economic aid. Too bad that the Soviets finally withdrew. Free lunch has stopped with the cold war. Now you got to eat the crap of the ``blowback`` from that war.

My heart bleeds for you. Pakistanis cry that US abandoned them after they served their purpose. This ones a beauty--a while ago one Pakistani on Chowk cursed the US for treating Pakistan like a used condom. Too bad; when a country behaves like a condom, it will be used like one. You guys werent crying that much when the aid was pouring in. All your glorious leaders & their cronies squandered that aid & left the common man in Pakistan with just his d *ck in his hands. At least you cant blame that mess on hindu treachery.

Now you think that a corrupt, bankrupt Pakistan will rise like a phoenix from the ashes & take on India single handedly. Wipe that testesterone of your face & see reality for a change. Pakistan is a country struggling to breathe economically. She is like a heroine addict who is going through withdrawals because the spigot of aid that used to bail her out time & again has suddenly been cut off. You can barely keep your country afloat & you want to rescue the Kashmiris!

I`m not saying India is a bed of roses. In many ways we may be in the same gutter as you. However, I`ve never seen such a surge of optimism since liberalisation. Many of the young IT workers I`ve met in the US dont want a green card even if it was given to them. I see these Indians coming here & in a few months get so homesick that cant wait to get the project over & go back. They just want to make as much money that they can & use it as a seed investment to start a company of their own.

When I was visiting India I used to wonder why there is so much mad competition to get into medical school. People are still sending their children to some capitation medical school for outrageous sums. I asked a few of those med students why they are wasting that money--esp now that its so difficult for Indian doctors to go to the US. All of them told me that the thought of going abroad never ever entered their minds because there is more than enough potential to do very well as doctors in India. My classmates from med school are all doing extremely well in India. I feet embarrased that I used to feel sorry for them that they were stuck in India.

Because of the nuclear factor its very likely India & Pakistan are not going to go to allout war. My only fear is that if those idiot fundos come to power in Pakistan, then our idiots will be elected with an absolute majority & then its all over for the whole subcontinent.

Barring that India & Pakistan will continue to hate each other & wage war with each other. However, those wars will not be fought on a battlefield. Those wars will be fought on an economic, diplomatic, technological & psychological front. If you guys think that Pakistan will prevail in those wars against India---O well; lets just agree to disagree.

Asif,

You cant compare Iran`s progress with glorious isolation to Pakistan`s. There`s a HUGE difference. That difference can be summed up in one word--OIL. Iran has/had oil revenues pouring in & they have used it wisely. Pakistan has no such advantage. How often can you go, hat in hand, to your Arab & Iranian brothers? Cant you see they`re getting sick of you? Once again, FREE LUNCH IS OVER!! Given Pakistan`s track record of leadership ,who is going to make her rise like a phoenix from the ashes? I wish I could share your optimism.

OK OK, I`m getting off my soapbox now. Jeeze! we treacherous banias can thump our chests too:)

HamidM #119

I am also wondering why Urstruly mentioned this article. Because it only shows that corrupt practices have only changed hands slightly without a little bit impact on corruption itself.

In retrospect, it makes my impression strong that we need Governemnt of people for the people and by the people to take care of their concerns in the form of education and economic activity and a better future.

I also agree with your statement whether Urstruly has read this article or not.

But I am glad that he mentioned this article.

ROmair #127

I think you better write with your previous name.

Name change has a marked effect on your skills.

Anyway you know some name are ``Saad`` and some ``Manhoos``

I also think your specicialization is Kashmir. Beyond that your analysis is at most pathetic particularly with your new name.

Your mention of Imran Khan and Pervez Musharraf in the category of people for whom the whole world is waiting except they decided to stay in Pakistan is beyond comprehension.

I don`t know what Imran Khan would do at this age in a foreign country. (I don`t think he can now even ask for a date). His hobbies these days are travelling and asking for ``Chanda`` for Hospital.

As for Pervez Musharraf. Which country is waiting to put an army man on the position of All in All of a country. He did it on the barrell of gun.

What are you talking. You are comparing these self proclaimed Messiahs who probably have nothing to offer to foreign countries to people who are striving hard in our unjust system for the survival of their families.

Urstruly #95

So you think those were not questions. Let me try to put it in MORE question form to which you seem to be accustomed.

1- What was the reason of killing, rape and torture of Bengalis in 1971 by West Pakistan?

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2- Why was East Pakistan ruled from West Pakistan from 1947-1971?

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2A- Are Bengalis human and Muslim?

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3- Who is responsible to take care of Afghan People?

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4- Why Taliban are shaving head for wearing shorts and jailing for not growing beard instead of doing something positive for their people?

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5_ Why Taliban are fighting their own people?

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6- Does Shariah prohibit Taliban from doing some betterment for their people?

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I asked the question in other format before as a matter of discussion. But probably you are accustomed to Q&A format so I have put few questions out of many which are in those posts. Would you now care to answer.

re krashid #130

You may already know that I hold the late Brigadier(a major in 1971) Siddiq Saliq in high regard. His ``Witness to Surrender`` (same book that you mention) was as honest as can be expected from a serving officer on the general staff. On an aside, if you don`t already realize, I don`t assign blame wholesale on Pakistan. Au contraire, my friend, there ought to be a trial of only those military personnel accused of crimes. My own regular write-ups in Bangladeshi newspapers make me wonder if the Awami League police will be waiting for me at the airport on my next visit to Dhaka.

No, poetry alone cannot change the perspective of the likes of Asif N and F_K. But I am hoping it goes to engender a sense of shame in them some day.

Re ylh

Good response to Asif N. Nothing against Rutgers myself: very good friend of mine in the Peace Corps program there. But it is in commie-lib People`s Republic of New Jersey after all :):) It would be a better school if it were in the United States :):):)

Jagdeep #13

Dear Jagdeep:

I will be coming over to Europe for the next two weeks to set up operations of our software company. I would spend a few days in London, and probably drive over to meet you and the family.

My bone marrow transplant, so far, has gone well. The doctors at Stanford are really good. After almost nine months, I have gained my energies back.

YLH #134 & 135

Daer YLH:

You have a bigger role to play than to get in argument with fundamentalists of any shade and colors. You might like to analyze the fundamentalism as a successful phenomenon (there are too many who have analyzed it as a failure) in all South Asian countries.

My nephew runs a successful high tech company in New Brunswick area, and my daughter is a student at Columbia University. I do visit my daughter, my nephew and his lovely wife quite frequently. On my next visit, I would love to invite and take you out for a dinner.

ANIL

hamidm,

I am also waiting for the true islamic republic of pakistan to come up wit qartaba as the capital. I would like to visit pakistan at the invitation of ylh along with some of my friends from kerala, they are muslims, and they prctice the matriarchal system. They are muslims and woman is the boss of the house and I was telling them about honour killing and they felt that to be completely unislamic. Of course, asif will say, they have been corrupted by the kafirs, what else can one expect, sitting in faisalabad, with a name like asif bin al ..

Re: krashid

``I am ashamed of my role...``

You should be ashmamed...you have a lot to be ashamed of. Bigotry, bias, ignorance, and poor communication skills.

PS Which park are you living in these days?

Re: Zahra

Do you take Fridays off and work on weekends?