Mahim Maher February 26, 2001
#91 Posted by rsaxena on March 4, 2001 1:08:14 pm
Re: scout
``Now I have to jump in the river Ganges...``
No, no. You should do no such kafir things. Go to mecca and bury your head in the sand and bathe with a camel.
``Now I have to jump in the river Ganges...``
No, no. You should do no such kafir things. Go to mecca and bury your head in the sand and bathe with a camel.
#89 Posted by Eklavya on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
When mindless bigots jump upon you, you can not be far off the mark.
Stay your course, Mahim. Write what you like. You make a contribution simply by being creative, by being open-minded.
You can not `explain` anything to closed minds. Don`t try to.
Ignore them.
Stay your course, Mahim. Write what you like. You make a contribution simply by being creative, by being open-minded.
You can not `explain` anything to closed minds. Don`t try to.
Ignore them.
#88 Posted by jawahara on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
krashid
I fail to get your point. Most written material, including the others who wrote texts on sexuality and Islam go through some kind of editorial process, except the Quran I suppose.
So did Mahim`s poet. Are you saying chowk editors need to act as censors of subject matter?
Just because material goes through an editorial process does not make it not a publicly consumed piece. Most things we read, including newspapers and magazine articles, all publicly consumed material, have all gone through a selection and an editorial process.
If your five year old has talent, s/he should defintely be published.
I trust the chowk staff`s literary taste and views more than that of the mullah brigage which is destroying priceless historical artifacts even as we speak, all in the name of what people can be *exposed * to.
I also don`t understand your self proclaimed Messiah comment/question.
Please elaborate on your points because I am still at sea and cannot see what you are talking about.
I fail to get your point. Most written material, including the others who wrote texts on sexuality and Islam go through some kind of editorial process, except the Quran I suppose.
So did Mahim`s poet. Are you saying chowk editors need to act as censors of subject matter?
Just because material goes through an editorial process does not make it not a publicly consumed piece. Most things we read, including newspapers and magazine articles, all publicly consumed material, have all gone through a selection and an editorial process.
If your five year old has talent, s/he should defintely be published.
I trust the chowk staff`s literary taste and views more than that of the mullah brigage which is destroying priceless historical artifacts even as we speak, all in the name of what people can be *exposed * to.
I also don`t understand your self proclaimed Messiah comment/question.
Please elaborate on your points because I am still at sea and cannot see what you are talking about.
#87 Posted by Cyra on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
It seems to me that we have turned into a nation of critics. All we do is criticize and point fingers at others. Mahim wrote a poem that seems to have raised quite a few eyebrows simply because it talks about a rather taboo subject. Granted that her style was nothing to write home about but then perhaps thats the way she interprets things. Its shocking the way `we liberal desis` treat new writers on chowk. When you don`t like something, criticize all you want but criticism does not necessarily have to be so harsh. Sheheryar, studebaker, Aristotle and the likes...if you all think you can write better than this, then please by all means go ahead coz I would certainly like to see you all do something `creative` (does the word ring a bell?) apart from the usual name-calling and filth that you all seem to be putting up on these message boards. Perhaps you all should give it a rest cuz its getting really really FAST!!!
#86 Posted by scout on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
For all you male idiots bugging Mahim for writing this harmless poem:
I`m sure your wives and girlfriends are doing the same thing, so go ``bang their doors down.``
Mahim,
Please ignore these ``righteous`` morons. Had a guy written this poem, they`d be agreeing, chuckling, and sharing stories etc.
I`m sure your wives and girlfriends are doing the same thing, so go ``bang their doors down.``
Mahim,
Please ignore these ``righteous`` morons. Had a guy written this poem, they`d be agreeing, chuckling, and sharing stories etc.
#85 Posted by scout on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
R-sux-haina? #73 ``Are you allowed to be reading material of adult nature such as that on this board? Isn`t it against your ``morals?``
Oh no! You should have stopped me or warned me.
You see, I didn`t have glasses on when I clicked on the title, I thought it read ``Corn for Girls,`` and I love Corn, so I thought why not?
Now I have to jump in the river Ganges to absolve myself of my sins and perhaps catch a few diseases to help repent.
Oh no! You should have stopped me or warned me.
You see, I didn`t have glasses on when I clicked on the title, I thought it read ``Corn for Girls,`` and I love Corn, so I thought why not?
Now I have to jump in the river Ganges to absolve myself of my sins and perhaps catch a few diseases to help repent.
#84 Posted by sadna on March 3, 2001 10:47:56 pm
PM #84
This maynot be what you are looking for, but some organisations listed here in NY/NJ Area:
www.maitri.org/resources/index.html
www.manavi.org
This maynot be what you are looking for, but some organisations listed here in NY/NJ Area:
www.maitri.org/resources/index.html
www.manavi.org
#83 Posted by Cheema on March 3, 2001 5:10:32 pm
Mahem,
It is indeed a daring poem. There are a lot of taboos in our society, people don`t wanna talk about them, yet in their heart every one knows how pervasive these are. I think its lack of tolerance and religious hegemony that has turned our society so hypocrite. Its sad that instead of talking about the subject, people have started personal attacks on you, many of them may even masturbate too!
But I still think you should have some sort of priorities. Sex is not the biggest issue for our society, what about socio-economic injustice, suffering of the poor, poverty and injustice. I guess u have heard this debate of ``art for society`` or ``art for art`s sake``. When Manto wrote ``Thanda Gosht`` he was prosecuted for using obscene language, and surprisingly Faiz criticized him too, on the grounds that there are more pressing issues to deal with in literature than liberating sex in society. True. There should be freedom of expression, but responsibility for our society too
It is indeed a daring poem. There are a lot of taboos in our society, people don`t wanna talk about them, yet in their heart every one knows how pervasive these are. I think its lack of tolerance and religious hegemony that has turned our society so hypocrite. Its sad that instead of talking about the subject, people have started personal attacks on you, many of them may even masturbate too!
But I still think you should have some sort of priorities. Sex is not the biggest issue for our society, what about socio-economic injustice, suffering of the poor, poverty and injustice. I guess u have heard this debate of ``art for society`` or ``art for art`s sake``. When Manto wrote ``Thanda Gosht`` he was prosecuted for using obscene language, and surprisingly Faiz criticized him too, on the grounds that there are more pressing issues to deal with in literature than liberating sex in society. True. There should be freedom of expression, but responsibility for our society too
#82 Posted by PM on March 3, 2001 5:10:32 pm
Not that this is related, but...
There is an 18-yo recent immgrant to the US who is going through some serious identity crises,and (I think) is need of some cultural lifelines and emotional support as she deals with some scary issues. She is from the Jackson Heights area. If anyone knows where she could find such help, pleae email me postmatser@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
P.M
There is an 18-yo recent immgrant to the US who is going through some serious identity crises,and (I think) is need of some cultural lifelines and emotional support as she deals with some scary issues. She is from the Jackson Heights area. If anyone knows where she could find such help, pleae email me postmatser@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
P.M
#81 Posted by PM on March 3, 2001 2:31:50 am
hamidm sahib,
I`ve been meaning to add my voice to those that have praised your superlative satire... Now I must commend you on that reproduction of Henry Miller as well.
You enliven and enrich the interacts as few others can. For which I guess we are indebted to Asif and Urstruly, amongst others :)
do keep posting!
P.
I`ve been meaning to add my voice to those that have praised your superlative satire... Now I must commend you on that reproduction of Henry Miller as well.
You enliven and enrich the interacts as few others can. For which I guess we are indebted to Asif and Urstruly, amongst others :)
do keep posting!
P.
#80 Posted by krashid on March 3, 2001 2:31:50 am
Jawahara #66
Everybody has a right to write whatever he/she can.
But everything is not published.
You probably will be aware by now that selection of article is done by Chowk Staff and not the writer.
It is useless to blame Mahim. What about my five year old writing for PUBLIC Consumption.
It only denotes the standard and taste of Chowk staff regarding literature.
Have you ever heard of self proclaimed Messiah.
Everybody has a right to write whatever he/she can.
But everything is not published.
You probably will be aware by now that selection of article is done by Chowk Staff and not the writer.
It is useless to blame Mahim. What about my five year old writing for PUBLIC Consumption.
It only denotes the standard and taste of Chowk staff regarding literature.
Have you ever heard of self proclaimed Messiah.
#79 Posted by hamidm on March 2, 2001 11:58:56 pm
......... in the words of the great pornographer :
``We are all guilty of crime the great crime of not living life to the full.
But we are all potentially free.
We can stop thinking of what we have failed to do and do whatever lies within our power.
What those powers that are in us may be no one has truly dared to imagine.
That they are infinite we will realize the day we admit to ourselves that imagination is everything.
Imagination is the voice of daring.``
- Henry Miller
``We are all guilty of crime the great crime of not living life to the full.
But we are all potentially free.
We can stop thinking of what we have failed to do and do whatever lies within our power.
What those powers that are in us may be no one has truly dared to imagine.
That they are infinite we will realize the day we admit to ourselves that imagination is everything.
Imagination is the voice of daring.``
- Henry Miller
#78 Posted by temporal on March 2, 2001 10:14:21 pm
LETTER TO MYSELF
Yaar temporal:
Are you not amazed at the irony?
The other day on another board you wrote,``....and no mention of sampada, mausala, gramye, ratiposha, lataveshta, shankha or splitting bamboo....`` and there was nary a murmur or even a solitary whimper by the usual righteouos brigade!
And here at this solitary display of safe sex in these dire times all hell is let loose on the messenger.
(Zair-e-dafa teen so dou, taazirat-e-Hind/Pak mujrima ko phaansi ki saza di jati hay. Allah Allah khair sallah!)
What a display of displaced Victorian disprudence!
What irony, you ask?
With sex, we practice but tolerate little writing about it.
With religion, we practice little but write in abundance!
yours etc.,
the other temporal
Yaar temporal:
Are you not amazed at the irony?
The other day on another board you wrote,``....and no mention of sampada, mausala, gramye, ratiposha, lataveshta, shankha or splitting bamboo....`` and there was nary a murmur or even a solitary whimper by the usual righteouos brigade!
And here at this solitary display of safe sex in these dire times all hell is let loose on the messenger.
(Zair-e-dafa teen so dou, taazirat-e-Hind/Pak mujrima ko phaansi ki saza di jati hay. Allah Allah khair sallah!)
What a display of displaced Victorian disprudence!
What irony, you ask?
With sex, we practice but tolerate little writing about it.
With religion, we practice little but write in abundance!
yours etc.,
the other temporal
#77 Posted by latif chappu on March 2, 2001 8:10:25 pm
Re: Godot
No dude, I didnt come up with those myself. Most of them are already in common circulation.
Do a search in google for `Masturbation Terms` and you`ll get to see many more!
Now if you`ll excuse me I have to indulge in a little bit of:
BaayeN Haath Ka Khel
Apna Haath Jagannath
Pocket Table Tennis
Khoodkhooshi
MooThia Maaring
Hastha Maithoon
Naag Pooja
IksaTh BaaNsaTh (61,62)
Pandavas V. Shakuni
Ling Vadh
No dude, I didnt come up with those myself. Most of them are already in common circulation.
Do a search in google for `Masturbation Terms` and you`ll get to see many more!
Now if you`ll excuse me I have to indulge in a little bit of:
BaayeN Haath Ka Khel
Apna Haath Jagannath
Pocket Table Tennis
Khoodkhooshi
MooThia Maaring
Hastha Maithoon
Naag Pooja
IksaTh BaaNsaTh (61,62)
Pandavas V. Shakuni
Ling Vadh
#76 Posted by Studebaker on March 2, 2001 8:10:25 pm
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