Mahim Maher February 26, 2001
#81 Posted by PM on March 3, 2001 2:31:50 am
hamidm sahib,
I`ve been meaning to add my voice to those that have praised your superlative satire... Now I must commend you on that reproduction of Henry Miller as well.
You enliven and enrich the interacts as few others can. For which I guess we are indebted to Asif and Urstruly, amongst others :)
do keep posting!
P.
I`ve been meaning to add my voice to those that have praised your superlative satire... Now I must commend you on that reproduction of Henry Miller as well.
You enliven and enrich the interacts as few others can. For which I guess we are indebted to Asif and Urstruly, amongst others :)
do keep posting!
P.
#82 Posted by PM on March 3, 2001 5:10:32 pm
Not that this is related, but...
There is an 18-yo recent immgrant to the US who is going through some serious identity crises,and (I think) is need of some cultural lifelines and emotional support as she deals with some scary issues. She is from the Jackson Heights area. If anyone knows where she could find such help, pleae email me postmatser@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
P.M
There is an 18-yo recent immgrant to the US who is going through some serious identity crises,and (I think) is need of some cultural lifelines and emotional support as she deals with some scary issues. She is from the Jackson Heights area. If anyone knows where she could find such help, pleae email me postmatser@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
P.M
#83 Posted by Cheema on March 3, 2001 5:10:32 pm
Mahem,
It is indeed a daring poem. There are a lot of taboos in our society, people don`t wanna talk about them, yet in their heart every one knows how pervasive these are. I think its lack of tolerance and religious hegemony that has turned our society so hypocrite. Its sad that instead of talking about the subject, people have started personal attacks on you, many of them may even masturbate too!
But I still think you should have some sort of priorities. Sex is not the biggest issue for our society, what about socio-economic injustice, suffering of the poor, poverty and injustice. I guess u have heard this debate of ``art for society`` or ``art for art`s sake``. When Manto wrote ``Thanda Gosht`` he was prosecuted for using obscene language, and surprisingly Faiz criticized him too, on the grounds that there are more pressing issues to deal with in literature than liberating sex in society. True. There should be freedom of expression, but responsibility for our society too
It is indeed a daring poem. There are a lot of taboos in our society, people don`t wanna talk about them, yet in their heart every one knows how pervasive these are. I think its lack of tolerance and religious hegemony that has turned our society so hypocrite. Its sad that instead of talking about the subject, people have started personal attacks on you, many of them may even masturbate too!
But I still think you should have some sort of priorities. Sex is not the biggest issue for our society, what about socio-economic injustice, suffering of the poor, poverty and injustice. I guess u have heard this debate of ``art for society`` or ``art for art`s sake``. When Manto wrote ``Thanda Gosht`` he was prosecuted for using obscene language, and surprisingly Faiz criticized him too, on the grounds that there are more pressing issues to deal with in literature than liberating sex in society. True. There should be freedom of expression, but responsibility for our society too
#84 Posted by sadna on March 3, 2001 10:47:56 pm
PM #84
This maynot be what you are looking for, but some organisations listed here in NY/NJ Area:
www.maitri.org/resources/index.html
www.manavi.org
This maynot be what you are looking for, but some organisations listed here in NY/NJ Area:
www.maitri.org/resources/index.html
www.manavi.org
#85 Posted by scout on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
R-sux-haina? #73 ``Are you allowed to be reading material of adult nature such as that on this board? Isn`t it against your ``morals?``
Oh no! You should have stopped me or warned me.
You see, I didn`t have glasses on when I clicked on the title, I thought it read ``Corn for Girls,`` and I love Corn, so I thought why not?
Now I have to jump in the river Ganges to absolve myself of my sins and perhaps catch a few diseases to help repent.
Oh no! You should have stopped me or warned me.
You see, I didn`t have glasses on when I clicked on the title, I thought it read ``Corn for Girls,`` and I love Corn, so I thought why not?
Now I have to jump in the river Ganges to absolve myself of my sins and perhaps catch a few diseases to help repent.
#86 Posted by scout on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
For all you male idiots bugging Mahim for writing this harmless poem:
I`m sure your wives and girlfriends are doing the same thing, so go ``bang their doors down.``
Mahim,
Please ignore these ``righteous`` morons. Had a guy written this poem, they`d be agreeing, chuckling, and sharing stories etc.
I`m sure your wives and girlfriends are doing the same thing, so go ``bang their doors down.``
Mahim,
Please ignore these ``righteous`` morons. Had a guy written this poem, they`d be agreeing, chuckling, and sharing stories etc.
#87 Posted by Cyra on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
It seems to me that we have turned into a nation of critics. All we do is criticize and point fingers at others. Mahim wrote a poem that seems to have raised quite a few eyebrows simply because it talks about a rather taboo subject. Granted that her style was nothing to write home about but then perhaps thats the way she interprets things. Its shocking the way `we liberal desis` treat new writers on chowk. When you don`t like something, criticize all you want but criticism does not necessarily have to be so harsh. Sheheryar, studebaker, Aristotle and the likes...if you all think you can write better than this, then please by all means go ahead coz I would certainly like to see you all do something `creative` (does the word ring a bell?) apart from the usual name-calling and filth that you all seem to be putting up on these message boards. Perhaps you all should give it a rest cuz its getting really really FAST!!!
#88 Posted by jawahara on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
krashid
I fail to get your point. Most written material, including the others who wrote texts on sexuality and Islam go through some kind of editorial process, except the Quran I suppose.
So did Mahim`s poet. Are you saying chowk editors need to act as censors of subject matter?
Just because material goes through an editorial process does not make it not a publicly consumed piece. Most things we read, including newspapers and magazine articles, all publicly consumed material, have all gone through a selection and an editorial process.
If your five year old has talent, s/he should defintely be published.
I trust the chowk staff`s literary taste and views more than that of the mullah brigage which is destroying priceless historical artifacts even as we speak, all in the name of what people can be *exposed * to.
I also don`t understand your self proclaimed Messiah comment/question.
Please elaborate on your points because I am still at sea and cannot see what you are talking about.
I fail to get your point. Most written material, including the others who wrote texts on sexuality and Islam go through some kind of editorial process, except the Quran I suppose.
So did Mahim`s poet. Are you saying chowk editors need to act as censors of subject matter?
Just because material goes through an editorial process does not make it not a publicly consumed piece. Most things we read, including newspapers and magazine articles, all publicly consumed material, have all gone through a selection and an editorial process.
If your five year old has talent, s/he should defintely be published.
I trust the chowk staff`s literary taste and views more than that of the mullah brigage which is destroying priceless historical artifacts even as we speak, all in the name of what people can be *exposed * to.
I also don`t understand your self proclaimed Messiah comment/question.
Please elaborate on your points because I am still at sea and cannot see what you are talking about.
#89 Posted by Eklavya on March 4, 2001 10:32:32 am
When mindless bigots jump upon you, you can not be far off the mark.
Stay your course, Mahim. Write what you like. You make a contribution simply by being creative, by being open-minded.
You can not `explain` anything to closed minds. Don`t try to.
Ignore them.
Stay your course, Mahim. Write what you like. You make a contribution simply by being creative, by being open-minded.
You can not `explain` anything to closed minds. Don`t try to.
Ignore them.
#91 Posted by rsaxena on March 4, 2001 1:08:14 pm
Re: scout
``Now I have to jump in the river Ganges...``
No, no. You should do no such kafir things. Go to mecca and bury your head in the sand and bathe with a camel.
``Now I have to jump in the river Ganges...``
No, no. You should do no such kafir things. Go to mecca and bury your head in the sand and bathe with a camel.
#92 Posted by Godot on March 4, 2001 1:08:14 pm
Re: scout, #86
Scout, you have a great sense of humor. I like your style! Sometimes you say it so well!
Your post #87: Agree with you 100%.
Latif Chappu, #75
Dude, I give you credit for putting it together. It takes imagination (no pun intended). Loved the second take as well!
Re: sharayar, #77
``she stands on a slippery field``
It is not a ``she`` who stands on a slippery field, it`s a ``he.`` [I`ll let you figure that one out.]
Re: Mahim Maher
Mahim, I want you to know that none of my posts here is directed towards you. I`m only responding to some of the posts in this thread. I hope you don`t take me the wrong way.
To me, you are very bright and intelligent. You know so many languages and can express your thoughts in them so well. Not everyone can do that. Women like you make me proud of Pakistan. Be what you are and keep writing for Chowk. You`ll have many fans. One thing I learned long time ago is that you cannot please everyone. The best way to be is be yourself.
Scout, you have a great sense of humor. I like your style! Sometimes you say it so well!
Your post #87: Agree with you 100%.
Latif Chappu, #75
Dude, I give you credit for putting it together. It takes imagination (no pun intended). Loved the second take as well!
Re: sharayar, #77
``she stands on a slippery field``
It is not a ``she`` who stands on a slippery field, it`s a ``he.`` [I`ll let you figure that one out.]
Re: Mahim Maher
Mahim, I want you to know that none of my posts here is directed towards you. I`m only responding to some of the posts in this thread. I hope you don`t take me the wrong way.
To me, you are very bright and intelligent. You know so many languages and can express your thoughts in them so well. Not everyone can do that. Women like you make me proud of Pakistan. Be what you are and keep writing for Chowk. You`ll have many fans. One thing I learned long time ago is that you cannot please everyone. The best way to be is be yourself.
#94 Posted by scout on March 4, 2001 5:41:32 pm
Rsuxena #92, ``Go to mecca and bury your head in the sand and bathe with a camel.``
That`s much much better than bathing in millions of people`s germs, urine, and God knows what...
Camels are beautiful animals by the way.
That`s much much better than bathing in millions of people`s germs, urine, and God knows what...
Camels are beautiful animals by the way.
#96 Posted by Eklavya on March 5, 2001 12:43:26 am
Scout #95
LOL. Good one.
Saxena Sahib, Maanana padega ki she is good :)
LOL. Good one.
Saxena Sahib, Maanana padega ki she is good :)
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