Lets Destroy The Bamiyan Buddhas!

Asif Nasqbandi

I will miss you very much, if you cut down the interactions on the chowk. You are a true pakistani who believes in the islamic republic and not an accidental theorist. You represent the views of the majority of pakistanis, who unfortunately cannot articulate the vuews as good as you have done so far.

Now we are left with the psuedo pakistanis, trying to be the liberal whiteman, trying out the industrial grade bleach to change thye skin colour, b8ut still relapses into urdu inanities when confronted with unpalatable truth.

Asif, stay on, let the world see the true pakistan.

regards and best wishes.

jay.

Instead of the kashmir border, if you choose to take the sea route, pl do drop in at Calicut, and ask for Jayaprakash, they will guide you on.

``...as i am cutting down severely interactions on chowk.``

Thank you. Who needs a nutcase like Solitude with people like you and Mullah Omar around. And if you are aware of the history (which I seriously doubt) then learn from it.

re rdesikan advise to asif n and cohorts

``Heck, aren`t you better off immigrating to heaven aka afghanistan where you can live the life you`ve always wanted to--instead of living with infidels and kafirs of all hues.``

No. That`d involve actually making the hard sacrifices that these people are incapable. As long as the shari`a is something they can preach to others, they are lions. WHen it comes to putting roots where your mouth is, these folks are AWOL. Remember Khomeini who lived in heathen Paris most of his active life?

Re Asif 217

Dude, go ahead and pray 24/7/365 and give my regards to the man above if one really exists in the first place. Heck, aren`t you better off immigrating to heaven aka afghanistan where you can live the life you`ve always wanted to--instead of living with infidels and kafirs of all hues.

Cheers

re: Naqshbandi

That gentle soul, Ibn Affan who had to suffer so much at that late age was also accused of biddat by jahils like you. Its time you start thinking some original thoughts.

sigalph/janjua/krashid...

When it comes to islam, i don`t have any original ideas--alhamdulillah. And janjua, yes i am aware of the history you refer to. Why don`t you learn some respect for the islamic savants? Please don`t bother replying that was a rhetorical q.

Dear Bilal,

Please email me on naqshbandijamaati@yahoo.com and we can continue our discussion there if u like. i would prefer that. thank you. as i am cutting down severely interactions on chowk.

:-)

Ras Siddiqui#

Probably the writer is unaware of the history of peaceful CO-Existence of Afghans/Central Asians.

Or anybody with a pen is writing these days.

I think all the males are writing these days.

re harish 216

Right on brother! The Democratic Leadership is scared of any tax cuts for one simple reason: it goes to benefit the most working poor and wean them away from the all encompassing welfare state created by LBJ. And any ``Republican`` plan that helps the working poor chips away at the Democratic plantation system of identity based politics. The Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Clinons thrive on the plantation system where a bonded class of second class citizens delivers their votes to the massa`! Once these citizens can help themselves and get rid of the `helpful` civil servant, they will not need the Dems any more. That thought is life threatning to the Democrats and their closet friends-the liberal Republicans (whatever these things are).

AhmedB #112

I think both point of view are correct.

Turning the blind eye to famine stricken people and making hue and cry for Buddha is shame.

That is being done to handover Osama Bin Laden. What is the guarantee that after handing over Osama Bin Laden West will stop supporting dictatorship in Arabian countries in contradiction to the demands of people for elected Government. Oil is always more important than democracy till 11;45 pm on 3/14/01 in Texas.

(I also believe that Taliban should take care of their people. But does two wrong make a right. My maths is weak)

Harish 3 #

I am not here to argue with you.

Neither I am much interested in this debate of democrat vs Republican.

But my point of view is correct and your wrong is the last analysis of mine.

Bye Bye.

sigalph235 #235

``You attach strange and long winded titles before and honorofics at the end of every name you revere``

HA HA HA!

I hope he doesn`t stop doing that. I have been laughing to my heart`s content everytime I read this nonsense.

Reminds me of a movie in which a fraudelent character went around as Something Something Sri Sri 420. I just didn`t know there were so many of such characters outside India too.

Now, let me go and laugh some more :)

Dear Asif:

Why my last post (Reply # 192) did not deserve your attention/reply? Please explain.

Sincerely, Bilal Ahmad

re asif n

If brevity is the soul of wit, then you have little. I read your references going back to a long line of long dead men from centuries past by and wonder if you have any original thought at all.

You attach strange and long winded titles before and honorofics at the end of every name you revere. Pray tell, did these gentleman address each other the same way? If they did I am glad that there was no parliament then-imagine the length of the debates when the Speaker called on the Breaker of Statues, Conqueror of Heathens, Glory of Muslims, Invader of Iraq, the Rightly Guided, Right Honorable, Defeneder of the Faithful Hazrat so-and-so Rahmatullah Alaihe etc etc to answer the question on beheading of converts from the Light of the Faithful, Glory of the Rightly Guided, Sword of Truth, Leader of the Scholars Hazrat so-and-so Rahmatulah Alaihe.

It is sad to see that you enjoy the pure blessings of liberty and free speech only in an attempt to deny it to others should you have your way. While as an idealistic student I was apalled to see the elctions in Algeria annulled, your posts confirm my realism that it was the right thing to do. Hitler used democracy to destroy freedom, Khomeini did the same. NEVER AGAIN!

Re: Hazrat Naqshbandi (ra)

I am supposed to change my mind after reading all that crap you posted. You don`t need to prove again and again that your misc. Shaikh ul Islam`s are idiots of the highest order. I already know that. Considering Ali superior to Abu Bakr makes you a Kafir? What`s wrong with that you jackass? A person can`t choose which sahabi he/she likes the best. I find Ali`s personality much better than Abu Bakr and Usman (a comparison with Umar is tougher). How can that be an insult to Abu Bakr or Usman. Do you know that at Jamal al-Zubair b. al-Awam and Tallah ibn. Ubaydullah fought against Ali b. Abi Talib. Do you know that all three are what we consider as ushra mubashira. Do you know that their armies consisted of sahabies who took sides. That there was carnage which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of sahaba including al-Zubair and Tallah. These were all sahabies who butchered each other. They did`nt call each other Kafirs in that extreme situation-who in the hell are you and these so-called shaykh-ul-islams to call anyone Kafir. They should be called shaykh-ul-jehalat. You have never come up with a decent reliable source. All you do is quote some idiot`s ridiculous fatwa or refer to hizmet books. If you want to make an argument come with reliable historic sources to back your arguments.

This is relatively recent history and is very well documented-You don`t need to go to some shaykh (who probably spent most of his life scratching his balls, eating halwa and worrying over whether doing his misc. wives doggy-style would be islamic or unislamic), you can look up this stuff in a history book yourself.

Savages- there are barbarians at the gate!

Interesting article from Nasim Zehra. Nasim, along with Ayaz Amir, in my opinion, are the two best journalists in Pakistan. They usually come up with very insightful analyses, quite a bit different from the generic stuff that most journalists come up with. Nasim was a senior member of Imran Khan`s party. She left due to a difference of principles:

``Why the Buddha bashing?

Nasim Zehra

Beyond the controversial and widely unacceptable religious justification that the Afghan government has given for destroying the Buddha statues, there is need to examine this unfortunate development more closely. While the Taliban`s literalist interpretation of Islam shaped by their education and traditions has always been apparent in their government`s social policies, why did they not opt for the destruction of these statues earlier?

They have after all been in power for the last five years. More significantly, only last year, this very Taliban government invited Nancy Dupree, a veteran American anthropologist, to inaugurate the Kabul museum. After restoring some of the Buddha statues and pulling out others from the basement, the museum was re-opened after more than two decades. Why then this sudden war on the Buddhas?`` (NEWS, Pakistan)

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html