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Zehra,

Why did you want to kill yourself when you were seven? My best friend is the doctor of a nine year old girl who was undergoing therapy for depression. She tried to kill herself. I`m not as concerned about the fellatio as I am about your mental health. With regards to being married and giving head, go ahead (no pun intended) but I hope you trust the fidelity of your husband. To me, being in love (not lust) is the key to sexual relations before or after marriage. I sensed a more casual approach to sex in your writing, thus my previous response. Due to the fact that I am a Public Health Educator, I`m more concerned about your mental health. Thoughts about suicide are alarming.

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I have to agree that this article is more about the existential angst a cerebral Pakistani girl (woman?) experiences than about her giving head.

Of course, given the two topics (although not really intentionally by the author), which one would generate conversation? This would be what is known as a rhetorical question. :)

-!K!-

dr. shankar,

i just realized i sounded rude in my post to you.

i didn`t mean to, i wrote it in a hurry and was kinda stressed out.

sorry bro

loved it. more commentary later.

On teh topic of - ``do Indian women give head?``

well open up any book on Kamasutra or one that has pictures of temple(Ajanta/Ellora/Belur/Halebid..) carvings and you will find your answers.

Whether one prefers to give or get - hell - getting is always better than giving be it gifts, flowers, money ... er head too probably

Though I do have to say MissFit does have a point there - yuck

aicha

Shanker:

``Farzana,

Er..ummm...I`m asking? do Indian women give head?..in India ie?

Sigh..why do I have this penchant of opening my mouth & putting my foot in it? Esp when I`m proud to say I REFUSE to entertain the penis god in it?``

Now you have raised a very pertinent point that can have socio-economic repercussions, that is if we do not take the psychodynamics into account.

1. You say, Er..umm...which means you are not sure whether wondering aloud is allowed.

2. ``I`m asking?`` with a question mark is tautology, which means that your question begs a further question.

3. We come now to the crucial point about whether Indian women do give head. But I am hurt when you add...``in India i.e``. Are we any less than our Western counterparts? As Ghalib would have said, ``Main bhi mooh mein zabaan rakhta hoon....``

Extensive research on the subject would of course reveal great disparities depending on the income level, urbanisation etc...but I should think that the bottomline is that Indian women do give head, though they might prefer ras malai. But what the heck, they can get both, can they not? I mean the behenjis and bens in the West down dollops of Haagen Daz in the aftermath of the `disaster` that has befallen them.

About your penchant, I was wondering whether your penis god is lodged in your foot. I am genuinely confused. Oh yes, pardon the note of prudishness in this post. Someone here has got to keep the faith:)

Re: MissFit

``If I was a man, I would be disgusted to kiss a woman who`s mouth enveloped various male members, and vice versa.``

Let us take it a step further. If you were a man, though you might find the act of kissing such a woman repulsive, would you also feel the same way of such a woman giving you head. It`s clear that your self righteousness is geting in the way of your remnant logical ability.

So what about a woman who gives head to her husband. Is that deplorable too. What if she gets ``something`` in return from her husband along the same lines. Would you give a toss then? or would you cast the married lovers as destined for hell too. Oral sex is not sanctioned off in Islam as you might have been educated to believe. Though as usual there are various schools of thought on it.

Your diatribe could have been toned down. It clear that MissFit is anything but, mentally speaking.

Sincerely

Asim

ms fit. i do have psychologoical problems. i havent written about the many murders and sexual misdemenors (i kept it clean this time round) i have committed..maybe next time on chowk..stay tuned.
heres the scary thought, darling...im one of the most normal people you`ll ever know. people use me as an example of not just normal but exemplary. not just people people but aunties.

so, if one is married then its ok to give head? or still rubber protection? also, once im married, does the marriage equivalent of the tooth fairy come and leave my sexual desires/promiscuity under my pillow and all of a sudden it`ll be ok? it will no longer be perversion or an illness? confusion disappears overnight...or my equally virginal husband will tell and explain all to me. anyway, im shia so i can do muta...so...nya nya na booboo.

if i lived in pakistan i would take offense at you saying things like pakistani girls need to feel more american, basically you are saying that pakistani girls are just insecure at all times....since i live in america, i`ll just laugh. theres more things than giving head to proclaim my (apparently misguided)american behavior.
and by the way..did you read the WHOLE piece or just the part about giving head over n over (fixated eh?)..i talk about being an american vs being pakistani....parhou tou sahi...samjhou tou sahi. koshish karou yaar. the head part was like only three sentences...there was more to this. there was, wasn`t there?

scout ki bachi...dil khol kar likhou...kya nahin acha laga tumhe? let`s talk about it.

!K! that was YOU who called...my roomate was like cameron called...i was like, i dunno anyone in that area code much less a cameron...call again. werent you not in this country?

rizvi.

shankar #97,

Don`t get too happy yet. I am what I am, whether that fits your definition of a prude or not.

Although I wouldn`t be as harsh/rude as Misfit in her post, my thoughts are along the same lines as hers.

Yikes! I read this article & said to myself ``hmmm pretty damned good``. Its nice to know that SAsian women can be so open with taboo subjects.

Whats surprising to know is that my own kid sister, Chowk`s own self appointed Mother Theresa is participating with full gusto. I`m not sure whether I should be happy or dissapointed. Aw, what the heck, my cute little jalapeno--go for it! Prudishness is for the birds.

Farzana,

Er..ummm...I`m asking? do Indian women give head?..in India ie?

Sigh..why do I have this penchant of opening my mouth & putting my foot in it? Esp when I`m proud to say I REFUSE to entertain the penis god in it?

RE # 94 gymnosophist

[``I have heard it said that the houris don`t have any orifices. Can some authority such as hamidm or even better, Naqshbandi or Farangi-Kush enlighten me on this subject. I really would like to know what it is that the jihadists are lusting after.``]

The pathan jihadists are lusting after young brahmin boys with wobbly heads whose orifices are not aleady filled with sambhar or masala dosa.

If this is autobiographical Ms. Zehra would benefit from some serious psychotherapy.

Children in their right mind, do not contemplate suicide at such a tender age.

As for giving head, many Pakistani girls born and raised in the United States believe giving head and other such overt sexual behavior before marriage justifies their American citizenship.

In order to fit into a predominantly sexual society, they brush off their moral values and take on explicit behavior.

I hope for Ms. Zehra`s sake she uses a rubber dam to protect herself from vile diseases. If I was a man, I would be disgusted to kiss a woman who`s mouth enveloped various male members, and vice versa.

Do something good for humanity instead of struggling in your self spun web of self pity, self loathing, female sexual servitude, and confusion.

Ref scout #: 75

You said [Oh goody! My aka, my sartaj will be reunited with me in heaven, and he`ll pick my pudgy self over those ``rosepetaled-perky-breasted-with-numerous-orifices houris.``]

I have heard it said that the houris don`t have any orifices.

Can some authority such as hamidm or even better, Naqshbandi or Farangi-Kush enlighten me on this subject.

I really would like to know what it is that the jihadists are lusting after.

Z, great writing (how far you`ve come from ``temptress``). Very honest. Gotta love that. And head...lots of head. Nothing wrong with that either. I called because I read you have the flu. Just read now that you`re over it. All`s well then. :)

-!K!-

Listen to an interview with Asma Jahangir on the National Public Radio program, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, on RealAudio, at

http://freshair.npr.org/dayFA.cfm?display=day&todayDate=03%2F12%2F2001

Blurb :

Human Rights Lawyer Asma Jahangir. She’s been at the forefront of the movements for women’s rights, human rights and peace in Pakistan for twenty years. She co-founded the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. In her work she’s defended a boy against the charge of blasphemy-the penalty would have been death. She’s defended the right of women to chose their own husbands. Because of her efforts she’s been arrested, received death threats, and been the target of hostile propaganda. Jahangir is one of the six recipients of the new Millennium peace Prize for Women, which is cosponsored by the UN Development Fund for Women.

-Arun the Infidelator