Bina Shah March 15, 2001
#19 Posted by Zahra on March 16, 2001 10:58:01 am
URS 18:
That was very sweet. In fact, sounds like a dil jali daastaan :).
Take Care[grin]
That was very sweet. In fact, sounds like a dil jali daastaan :).
Take Care[grin]
#18 Posted by Urstruly on March 16, 2001 9:40:23 am
The following Punjabi poem depicts another Asif in the making. (Those who do not understand Punjabi should know that it is not their fault-nobody is perfect).Cant translate it.
TAIRA MAIRA JORR VE KEE
Mei(N) ik akkharr tay jungli paindoo
To(N) mutiar ghulaba(N) dee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) ik ghareeb kissan da putter
Too(N) rashi afsar dee thee
Taira Maira JoRR ve Kee
Mei(N) kokhay tay cigarette phooka(N)
To(N) Hilton tay kafi pee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) ik shirt noo(N) tho tho panva(N)
Tairay joRRay punji tee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) mer mer B.A. Keeta
Too(N) Physics wich M.Sc.
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Tairay pichhay sohnay munday
Saday pichay C.I.D.
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Sano(N) university wich puchhda koi nei(N)
tairay dewanay Saray jee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Tairay naza(N) nukhria(N) naloo(N)
Sanoo(N) chungee chachay de thee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
ends
Poet -Unknown (to me)
TAIRA MAIRA JORR VE KEE
Mei(N) ik akkharr tay jungli paindoo
To(N) mutiar ghulaba(N) dee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) ik ghareeb kissan da putter
Too(N) rashi afsar dee thee
Taira Maira JoRR ve Kee
Mei(N) kokhay tay cigarette phooka(N)
To(N) Hilton tay kafi pee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) ik shirt noo(N) tho tho panva(N)
Tairay joRRay punji tee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Mei(N) mer mer B.A. Keeta
Too(N) Physics wich M.Sc.
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Tairay pichhay sohnay munday
Saday pichay C.I.D.
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Sano(N) university wich puchhda koi nei(N)
tairay dewanay Saray jee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
Tairay naza(N) nukhria(N) naloo(N)
Sanoo(N) chungee chachay de thee
Taira Maira JoRR ve kee
ends
Poet -Unknown (to me)
#17 Posted by Urstruly on March 16, 2001 8:59:20 am
Zehra
I am well aware of the fact that this story has been written umpteenth time by almost every new female writer. Despite this fact the story is not funny. It should not be enjoyed. It is whip on our back to make us run faster and work harder. There is so much work that needs to be done. It is time to organize, plan, and generate new ideas on how to beat this monster and how to slay this dragon. We cannot sit back, relax, and enjoy. Time`s not come yet.
So anyone who writes this story umpteen+one time still deserves my respect.
I am well aware of the fact that this story has been written umpteenth time by almost every new female writer. Despite this fact the story is not funny. It should not be enjoyed. It is whip on our back to make us run faster and work harder. There is so much work that needs to be done. It is time to organize, plan, and generate new ideas on how to beat this monster and how to slay this dragon. We cannot sit back, relax, and enjoy. Time`s not come yet.
So anyone who writes this story umpteen+one time still deserves my respect.
#15 Posted by ShirinAhmed on March 16, 2001 8:37:25 am
Dear Bina,
This was a topic of great relevance, as we see more and more women going out in the work field, being the bread winners, and stay at home husbands.However realisticaly speaking, and through observation, i have seen women benefitting from this reversal of roles, as it gives them an inner feeling of self sufficiency and independance, both so important for a woman. However i have seen men get burnt out faster than women if they have to stay home ,and act as the ``lady of the house ``.This is leading to great psycological problems in the long run in men, especially the diligent ones. I have seen marriages breaking too , since the stress of holding fort by men , has a lower threshold than women.It may be an ideal situation in many cases , but the success story at the end somehow is not an encouraging one ! just my personal observation.
Liked the article though, Asif seems to come out as an exception to the most !
In fact i am dealing with a patient these days who were in exactly the same situation as asif and his wife .The husband eventually got burnt out, could not take the responsibilities of day to day domestic chores , but because of his commitment to his wife just shrivelled within himself, lost self esteem to its lowest ebb,misunderstandings grew, and now the couple have finally separated !
But we have to be optimistic, as there are the Asif varieies too ! wish i would see more of them in real life !!
take care ,
shirin
This was a topic of great relevance, as we see more and more women going out in the work field, being the bread winners, and stay at home husbands.However realisticaly speaking, and through observation, i have seen women benefitting from this reversal of roles, as it gives them an inner feeling of self sufficiency and independance, both so important for a woman. However i have seen men get burnt out faster than women if they have to stay home ,and act as the ``lady of the house ``.This is leading to great psycological problems in the long run in men, especially the diligent ones. I have seen marriages breaking too , since the stress of holding fort by men , has a lower threshold than women.It may be an ideal situation in many cases , but the success story at the end somehow is not an encouraging one ! just my personal observation.
Liked the article though, Asif seems to come out as an exception to the most !
In fact i am dealing with a patient these days who were in exactly the same situation as asif and his wife .The husband eventually got burnt out, could not take the responsibilities of day to day domestic chores , but because of his commitment to his wife just shrivelled within himself, lost self esteem to its lowest ebb,misunderstandings grew, and now the couple have finally separated !
But we have to be optimistic, as there are the Asif varieies too ! wish i would see more of them in real life !!
take care ,
shirin
#13 Posted by Studebaker on March 16, 2001 1:38:35 am
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#12 Posted by krashid on March 16, 2001 1:38:35 am
Bina #
Role reversal is not a possibility but idealism.
In advanced as well as primitive society, women and men have roles determined by economic strength.
Moreover while the man might be happy to have a family, women will always be looking for something higher. Never satisfied even with whole world under their feet.
Probably their satisfaction is one. No woman is better than her. Once that is achieved, probably satisfaction is achieved.
I am calling my wife at least for tea and Woh bechari will do it very happily.
And for her sake I have to take the role of bread earner and protector of family. A thankless job.
Role reversal is not a possibility but idealism.
In advanced as well as primitive society, women and men have roles determined by economic strength.
Moreover while the man might be happy to have a family, women will always be looking for something higher. Never satisfied even with whole world under their feet.
Probably their satisfaction is one. No woman is better than her. Once that is achieved, probably satisfaction is achieved.
I am calling my wife at least for tea and Woh bechari will do it very happily.
And for her sake I have to take the role of bread earner and protector of family. A thankless job.
#11 Posted by writer_77 on March 16, 2001 1:38:35 am
``It was a dark and stormy night.``
A good one.
cliches...i love cliches.
A good one.
cliches...i love cliches.
#10 Posted by Zehra on March 15, 2001 8:05:28 pm
urstruly..where the hell have you been man? have you been sleeping for the last (atleast) ten years?? you are thinking of starting the preliminary steps NOW to fix this?? dont wait for the govt?? huh??
im sorry, im being harsh, urstruly. the story is cute n funny and nicely written blah blah blah, but my god (!) don`t tell me this is an eye opener for anyone..a reminder ok but not a fresh brilliant idea.
take this further..its beyond the time where more should have been in this story.
rizvi.
im sorry, im being harsh, urstruly. the story is cute n funny and nicely written blah blah blah, but my god (!) don`t tell me this is an eye opener for anyone..a reminder ok but not a fresh brilliant idea.
take this further..its beyond the time where more should have been in this story.
rizvi.
#9 Posted by Zahra on March 15, 2001 6:32:10 pm
Well...Well...Well :-)
I cannot resist pointing out the beautiful humor/irony[depends on how one looks at it]pointed out by Bina. She has very sweetly woven some ``burning issues`` in this ``scene.``
``Yes but ... well we`ve talked about this before son. About how girls and boys are different - equal, of course, but different. And that girls have different roles in society than boys. She needs to have the extra toasts, and take all the science classes because one day she`s going to be an engineer and she`ll have her own family to provide for. You need to learn how to be patient and giving and compromise - that`s what families look for in a good husband.``
Haif! But, indeed, a great observation(very traditional)which I think is changing quite a bit with the passage of time. Why not? If the roles can reverse, the expectations better be on the same route.
Thanks for an interesting and realistic read!
[After reading the above, I surely feel that I am way too confident now to differentiate between reality and idealism :-)]
I cannot resist pointing out the beautiful humor/irony[depends on how one looks at it]pointed out by Bina. She has very sweetly woven some ``burning issues`` in this ``scene.``
``Yes but ... well we`ve talked about this before son. About how girls and boys are different - equal, of course, but different. And that girls have different roles in society than boys. She needs to have the extra toasts, and take all the science classes because one day she`s going to be an engineer and she`ll have her own family to provide for. You need to learn how to be patient and giving and compromise - that`s what families look for in a good husband.``
Haif! But, indeed, a great observation(very traditional)which I think is changing quite a bit with the passage of time. Why not? If the roles can reverse, the expectations better be on the same route.
Thanks for an interesting and realistic read!
[After reading the above, I surely feel that I am way too confident now to differentiate between reality and idealism :-)]
#8 Posted by sac on March 15, 2001 4:51:29 pm
CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
re adila #4:
Would you settle for half?
later
-sac
re adila #4:
Would you settle for half?
later
-sac
#7 Posted by Godot on March 15, 2001 4:07:38 pm
I really liked this upside-down sarcastic little story. Made its point real well.
#6 Posted by id on March 15, 2001 4:07:38 pm
Very humorous... Its interesting how the women who write on the chowk are all feminists.. not that its a bad thing :)
#5 Posted by scout on March 15, 2001 4:07:38 pm
I couldn`t wipe the smile off my face while reading this.
LOVED IT!
You`re my hero Bina,,,err..herione.. :)
LOVED IT!
You`re my hero Bina,,,err..herione.. :)
#4 Posted by adila on March 15, 2001 4:07:38 pm
actually this is very funny. i wish every single man would become like asif.
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