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AAmir,

why the resentment ? are you a dow alumnus too ?Whom do u know amongst the people Krashid and i mutualy know ?Please enlighten us !

Sorry Bina, shoot me if you want ... i promise to be out of here as soon as i can provide a complete list of the medical colleges in pakistan , a request by a fellow writer here !

Take care ,

Regards,

Shirin

Krashid,

Thanks for replying.Very nice to read you are happily settled in texas.

It is very sad to hear about proffessor Shafi Quereshi.Apparently the only part of his body which can move is his right arm.His speech is very distorted, and he is really leading a vegetable existence.He was in karachi this summer over Eid apparently.Some friends met him, and it was very disturbing to see him in this state.However something which has not changed is his signature stern look. Poor guy .What a thing to happen to him.Feel very sory over the whole scenario !

BTW, karatela`s site is in full swing, and flourishing ! writers wanted there , so do look it up again. you will enjoy it .Lots happening !and like you said one feels connected ....

Take care , and hope to see you at the forums.Heated debates , Arag style are usually in full form , and it will be very nice to get more involvement there . do try and make it !

krashid #103, ``Woh To Amrika Ka Raasta Khul Guya. American Medical Association Ke Karam se glamour Hai.``

Unfortunately, this AMA association results in an attitude problem as well. I`ve seen more stuck up desi (Indian and Pakistani) doctors here than American. I don`t know what it is about desi doctors. My family and I have encountered less sympathy and understanding in desi doctors than American. Maybe you and ms. Shirin Ahmed could enlighten me as to why.

Do medical colleges back home offer good/extensive training in patient management?

Another thing I`ve noticed is that Indian doctors are even worse at patient management than Pakistanis. My sister and I recently had a terrible experience with an Indian doctor. Instead of listening and understanding, she was confrontational and rude. Forget the Hippocratic oath, this person was downright offensive.

Ironically, the first question she asked when we went to her office was ``where are you from?``

In another example, I was rotating through a cardiology ward and noticed two Indian doctors flirting with the nurses in front of patients. It was very unprofessional.

In another case, I saw a marriage break up because a young Pakistani doctor was having an affair with a nurse.

I`ve seen so many of these negativities in desi doctors, that I`ve formed an aversion towards them.

I know there are many exceptions, and there are great desi doctors in the world (i`ve known a few), but sometimes...I lose faith.

What are our medical colleges teaching young doctors these days? Are the eight years spent in medical education in the States superior to the five years back home?

I don`t mean to offend anyone, just trying to figure out what makes desi doctors tick the way they do.

Shirin Ahmed #

Probably you would not know me.

My name is Khusro Rashid.

Who can forget Dow days.

I am presently in a suburb in Texas.

Happy with three kids and work.

I used to visit the site created by Karatela and contributed one or two interacts there. Sometimes that site is down. I have not visited it for last two years or so. (But it gives information who is where)

But the news there of paralysis of Prof Shafi Qureshi was devastating. I did my internship with him. And I was very sad. I think he is in London. If God wills, I wish to visit that gentle soul, one day, once again.

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Temporal#111,

That was just great!I could feel myself just there ,in mid choraha of historic karachi.I6 Years ago i used to drive through these interesting ``gullee kuchaas `` daily on my way to Dmc and CHK. could identify very well!

my salute to your elephantine memory !

thanks for the directions :)

by the way we all at dow suffer from olfactory fatigue , so never could get the smell of urine ...

take care ,

love ,

``S``

.... Hope you dont mind me being a copy cat, but i`ve always loved this style !if you have a strong copyright order , then i will not use it again !!

Shirin Ahmed #110:

Since you are following this thread --- please go to the Speaker`s Forum (bottom left corner) and click on replies -- go to #209 --- this the third draft of what I had hoped would be a series of Karachi Vignettes.

Since you have discovered Chowk I think you would enjoy the `asli chouraha`. And thanks!

love,

t

PS: Bina, apologise for this digression.

Krashid,

Very nice to hear from you , as a fellow member .Iftikhar Ahmed [IFTI] You are right , stood for president from jamiat.

Sarah did her residency in paeds , and i think went off to dubai then. she must have done her surgical internship in liaqat the following year.

Amrah shahab must have been with you, who married Mansoor pirzada from our batch .

Have you heard of the Allumni site for Dow ? It has been started by DR. Rizwan Karatela`84.its quite nice , do look it up and try to join in !

I think you would know a few people writing there .It is both a social and an academic forum, though more social now. more like a nostalgic site , remembering the snack corner , and ``Those were the days ``!!

incidentally where are you placed these days ? do let me know ?

very nice talking to you , please identify your full name to me .

yes the names of your friends are very familiar to me .Unfortunately since it has been such a long time , the faces are a bit blurred.You can appreciate that , with the huge clases we had ! it is becoming so difficult to remember names / faces of colleagues from my on class who in those days were just mere acquaintances .However in this stage of life , it is very nice to hear from old friends , regardless of whether we knew them or not .I realy miss the Dow days ... do you ?

take care , and very nice talking to you .

Regards,

Shirin

p.s sorry bina for making this sound as a lost and found site for the moment !!

Bina, sorry to use this space, but it`s rather important... amd for a good cause.....

I`m trying to help a kid pay for some IT course he`s taking at an SSI institute in Bombay. I need to ascertain the fee structure, and payment schedule for this course, as well as the duration... it`s called IMPACT.

Anyone willing to provide info may email me @ postmatser@yahoo.com.

Please do help if u can... It could give a helpless kid a `chance` at life.

With thanks,

PM

Shirin Ahmed #106

Yes I meant Izhar-ul-Haq.

Is this the same Iftikhar Ahmed who was presidential candidate from Jamiat.

Sarah Shahab the granddaughter of Qudratullah Shahab married in Dubai did her surgical internship when I was resident in Liaquat National Hospital.

I am one year junior to you. May be you know Umar Daraz, Khalid Anwar, etc.

Urstruly # 100,

Awwwww )) what an awful thing to say by those girls !esp. when you were prepared to being the ``Perfect Doormat ``.Well dont be disheartened , i have a solution, try the ponti route , it might work, you know girls are prety dazled by a ponti , i suggest you contact Mahajirzadeh .He has been through some sore times . i am sure he will be very generous for the loan !

take care , and all the best , come on its not the end of the world !! give me a huge smile ... yes thats the way to go .... keep it up !1t suits you .....

Krashid # 102,

Yes all these names are known to me .Do you mean Izhar-ul haq instead of Izhar Ahmed? The latter does not sound so familiar , but yes the rest do.Actualy some others from my batch were Waqar Ayub, Nadeem zafar, shahab ghani, Iftikhar Ahmed to name a few , and samreena hashmi [married to Qamar-ul -Hoda ],

Shabana naqvi ,Sarah Shahab, Taj Ahmed .I hope some of these names are familiar to you .Kindly let me know if you are a dow alumnus too, and if so which year did you qualify ? i would love to hear .It is always very exciting to hear from a fellow member , esp. in ``beech choraha ``, when least expected !! so now you can feel the degree of excitement in my earlier post :)

regards ,

Krashid,# 102

Now! That is a surprise, shock, jolt , ..... all but very nice !please identify yourself ! You could`nt be .....

all i can say is its really a small world !!

Shirin

Shirin Ahmed #

Only one question for you.

Can you name any prominent people from your clinical group. Just curious.

Shahid Qureshi, Qamrul-Huda, Izhar Ahmed, Pervez Alvi.

Your class was probably the best class Dow has produced.

Scout #83

Woh To Amrika Ka Raasta Khul Guya. American Medical Association Ke Karam se glamour Hai.

Varna Pakistan Mein Doctor Ki Auqat Wohi Naw Se Baara Hai.

Is Se Acchha Rishta To Custom officer or police officer Ka Hota Hai.

Aur Lady doctor Dekh Kar Hur SaaS Ke Mun Mein Paani Aa Jata Hai.(Aur Larke Ka Pitta Pani Ho Jata Hai)

For male doctors it is ``Larka Doctor Hai Pur Karta Kia Hai``

For female doctors the title is enough.

Urstruly#100;

``I have been told by many that they would rather spontaneously combust than marry me.``

- No! You`ve gotta be kidding? I dont believe it!

Wonder why........

:-)

regards

Harpreet