Nothing’s Forever

why is it that only the baaad times seemingly last forever and the good ones vanish in a flash??

Wonderful poem!!!

I guess i should thank you....

Thank you for reminding us that ``Nothing`s Forever``, that gave me a little hope in an otherwise insane day ...

rivetingly beautiful... sad and hopeful... thank u for sharing this poem...:)

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Amber #18,

points well made !i liked your perception of `` Forever ``! i have my kids first steps on video, and really that moment is ``Forever ``.When the newborns were shown to be for the first time in the delivery room, that moment is ``forever ``, whenever i go to say ``Khuda Hafiz `` to my aging Daadi ,the look in her eyes , saying every time ``Maybe this is it ``, [though she never speaks out ] is forever , till i meet her again, on the next visit , but the look and expressions do not change .

life does move on, every moment lived is so precious , cherish it, and let it live with you ....

Umm, Carbody #101, the Buddhist population of India according to the 1991 census was 6.37 million.

-Arun the Infidelator

Kasim bhai,

Good poem.

But if you turn it around, we have

Nothing`s forever = the void is eternal!

Cheers.

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Nothing reminds me of this..

Something from Nothing

Perhaps no one has embraced nothing as strongly as the Indians who, Seife notes, ``never had a fear of the infinite or of the void.`` Hinduism has embedded within it, a complex philosophy of nothingness, seeing everything in the world as arising from the pregnant void, known as Shunya.

The ultimate goal of the Hindu was to free himself from the endless cycle of pain found in continual reincarnation and reconnect with the Nothingness that is the source and fundament of the All.

For Indians, the void of Shunya was the very font of all potential; nothingness was liberation. No surprise then that it is from this sophisticated culture that we inherit the mathematical analog of nothing, zero. Like Shunya, zero is a kind of place holder, a symbol signifying a pregnant space where any other number might potentially reside.

The earliest known example of zero appears in a Jain manuscript on cosmology from AD 458, though indirect evidence suggests it must have been in use in India as early as 200 BC.

In the 7th century after Christ, the Indian astronomer Brahmaghupta formally defined zero and spelled out the algebraic rules for adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing with it. Yet the West was appalled by this enigmatic symbol when European scholars first encountered it via the Arab world.

How could you signify nothing? To do so was to acknowledge its existence, the very position early medieval thinkers had so sought to avoid.

Howdy y`all

I`m Sorry to take your space Kasim but I would like to make a request to Chowk Staff, if possible, to designate a special section on the site which relates to all Charitable organisations working in Southeast, i.e. Pakistan, India, Bangladesh etc etc. The spot would include such details as their contacts, history, missions, their systems of functions, methods of fund collections, annual outcomes, personal experiences of people who`ve worked for charities, useful ideas, methods of setting up the organisations etc etc and we could all contribute our own little bit to this knowledge.

I`ve heard many people say that Chowk is a bekaar vela place meant for useless chatter and maybe it`s true but I`m not quiet willing to believe that just yet. A single water molecule is nothing but get enough of them and they become `wet.`

All in favour say `yay`.

Umer Murtaza Phoenix.

Americans are well aware of the pitfalls in trying to wage a ground war in Afghanistan. Their strategy will be to work with the Northern Alliance on the ground, while employing air power where necessary. They will fund, arm and train the Northern Alliance and collaborate with them on joint missions. At the same time, they will put enough pressure on Pakistan to ensure that it does not try to help out the Taliban. It will also lure Taliban commanders away by offering financial incentives. They will also try to rally ordinary Afghans by sending in food aid and doing massive propaganda. Essentially, the Taliban will be cornered within Afghanistan and will be hunted down. The world wide coalition building will ensure that it does not degenerate into a West vs. Islam issue.

The real issue is whether USA gets outsmarted by Islamabad. Pakistan is playing a very shrewd and cunning role in this whole game. Their objective is to somehow preserve a friendly Taliban regime in Afghanistan by getting rid of Osama bin laden. They know that directly confronting the USA will backfire badly. Therefore, they have adopted the Chanakya style deviousness of appearing to be on the side of USA while doing everything possible to get the Taliban spared. They are totally against the Northern Alliance or any other regime in Afghanistan that cannot be controlled by Islamabad. They have cunningly made their own stability an issue, which is stopping USA from going ahead with its military plans. Their problem is that the Taliban are too obstinate to play along. The question is whether USA can see through this game and act in its own interests or not.

Kassim Bhai #

Bohat Shandar or Jandar Shairi Hai.

Scout #

Have you noticed there was ``love`` in this poem to be printed.:-)

Acerbic Jazbati# Put ``sex`` ``porn`` ``love`` stuff in your submission and title.

Yeh aazmoda Nuskha guess paper Ki Tarah Ub So Maalom Hai.

Kasim: Welcome to CHOWK!
Enjoyed some parts of this work but in the
following lines

``The sweetest hours
the sublimest moments
are lived in
the shortest time
to be recalled
for the longest period``

you have lived up to your last name...

Ras

who says nothing lasts forever

......I intend to live forever - so far, so good ......

..but then, as someone said. ``Ignorance is temporary; stupidity lasts forever!!``

Scout can you tell me some more about this!!!!

thank you sweet heart

Re: temporal

``what about love

with an l or L

and its perennial nemesis Hate

and that Smile

furtively as it plays

over innocent faces

yet to be affected

by Love or Hate``

None of these is forever. First comes the ``Smile yet to be affected by Love or Hate,`` then Love, and then Hate. Even the Hate doesn`t last forever until the next Love comes along.

oh babay...mairey poem bhi tau publish karo yaar..

the guys at chowk hate me

i love you all

:)

acerbicjazbati

IS NOTHING FOREVER?

if...
nothing is forever

what about love
with an l or L
and its perennial nemesis Hate
and that Smile
furtively as it plays
over innocent faces
yet to be affected
by Love or Hate

hum jo youN behtay haiN nafratouN ki mauj maiN
hum jo larzaaN haiN mohabbatouN kay darya maiN
hum jo kisi joostoojoo-e-azli maiN haiN griftaar sadaa
hum jo mohooum ummeedouN kay khushgawar khaabaouN
ki taabir-o-taamir main hain koshaaN sadaa

what of the utterances
of sages and simpletons snaking down
...down to the reservoir of Wisdom
or the lies that mushroom with each repetition
into Lies and Falsehood

khooshi, ik muskurahat
ghum, hazaar taa’nay
zindagi, bhaNwar beech darya
such, fik’r-o-ihsaas ka azaab
aur rooh, ijtamiyyat ki maut,
...infradiyat ki fat’h aur
harf, pehla aur aakhri, la-faani harf
...libadah rooh ka

what of deception
raised to an art form
and of real Art
Mona’s smile, Tut’s frown, Rasputin’s gaze,
bard’s plays, Mirza’s kalaam, the written Word

and the prisoner of past, present and future, Time
and the kernel of time, Truth
and the tides of truth, Reflections
and the blend of time, truth and reflections, Life
and the core of life, Beauty
and the conscience of beauty, Soul
....my wandering soul

is...
nothing forever

[...and sadly Kasim
no nihilist am I
wandering eternally
in search of elusive
smiles, I remain
temporal :)

Nice one.

it really touched my heart.

Poignant writing. Painfully true and equally painful to ever learn and accept.

True nothings forever !the sooner we realise that the better,to make the most of the time we have on our hands, and the most of the gift of life bestowed to us by Allah.Be thankful and happy every moment , as it passes towards the end !

At least that is my philosophy .

Well written article though, enjoyed reading it !

however for an optimist , it becomes a bit difficult switching to a realist !!

Welcome to chowk ! do keep writing .

rgds,

Shirin

This reminded me of Khalil Gibran with a bit of Deepak Chopra..