Urstruly April 8, 2001
#159 Posted by FarzanaVersey on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
Dear fzk (# 141):
So when are you visiting Bombay? Hmmm….aadha kilo hapshee halwa le aana … Aur kuchch portable, desirable cheez hogi to bataa denge…you know the kind that are yum but not quite edible:)
[“But jokes aside, if u ever visit Karachi, u must look me up! We will try to have
healthy fun as girls should! ;) And i wont let you get into trouble either.”]
You mean to say I go through hell getting a visa, after standing before a fellow who thinks I have all the makings of a terrorist and will stamp the passport only if some relative is dying (I would be sent an SOS in the first place to expedite that trip to heaven, of course) or getting married (same thing), I would NOT want to get into any trouble? Arre, when I return I must have something to show for all my troubles, no?
Of course, I will be visiting to collect my ‘Sitara-e-Imtiaz’. Would getting mushy with Mushy qualify as meritorious service? Kuchch idea hai kya karna chahiye to become a ishtaar and get Imtiaz, whoever he is?
[“Oh, and hey, Urstruly dont second me! Ure way up ahead on her list than i am! ;)”]
Achcha? How did you know about the list? Lekin aap to mushkil mein daal dogi. Are you aware that Urstruly is a conservative at heart? I mean, he will start calling me Ms. Versey all over again! And then he will give you a piece of his mind about how we are all his respected guests!
As for not being typical ‘elemental women’…I think we would give those kuddis a run for their paraandis. After all, as genetic Bombaywallas, apunka ishtyle ach alag hai. Kya bolti tu?
Toot-toot,
So when are you visiting Bombay? Hmmm….aadha kilo hapshee halwa le aana … Aur kuchch portable, desirable cheez hogi to bataa denge…you know the kind that are yum but not quite edible:)
[“But jokes aside, if u ever visit Karachi, u must look me up! We will try to have
healthy fun as girls should! ;) And i wont let you get into trouble either.”]
You mean to say I go through hell getting a visa, after standing before a fellow who thinks I have all the makings of a terrorist and will stamp the passport only if some relative is dying (I would be sent an SOS in the first place to expedite that trip to heaven, of course) or getting married (same thing), I would NOT want to get into any trouble? Arre, when I return I must have something to show for all my troubles, no?
Of course, I will be visiting to collect my ‘Sitara-e-Imtiaz’. Would getting mushy with Mushy qualify as meritorious service? Kuchch idea hai kya karna chahiye to become a ishtaar and get Imtiaz, whoever he is?
[“Oh, and hey, Urstruly dont second me! Ure way up ahead on her list than i am! ;)”]
Achcha? How did you know about the list? Lekin aap to mushkil mein daal dogi. Are you aware that Urstruly is a conservative at heart? I mean, he will start calling me Ms. Versey all over again! And then he will give you a piece of his mind about how we are all his respected guests!
As for not being typical ‘elemental women’…I think we would give those kuddis a run for their paraandis. After all, as genetic Bombaywallas, apunka ishtyle ach alag hai. Kya bolti tu?
Toot-toot,
#160 Posted by FarzanaVersey on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
Studebaker (#156):
Trust you to do this. First you put a friend (dost) in the pyre (sati) and then you say this…
[“When it comes to make big bucks for box ofice hits ,the hindi directors run to urdu poets ,for the musical language sweet sounding & versatile array words ,but in All cerifiactes its HINDI given as language of movie.!!”]
Who is stopping the Urdu poets from escaping these vile clutches? We all know that Urdu is an Indian language. But what we hear spoken in Hindi films is not khalis Urdu; it is at best Hindustani. Yes, Urdu shayars have contributed immensely to Hindi cinema and been awarded and rewarded for it. But let us not forget that it was Majrooh Sultanpuri (much as I respect him) who wrote the lyrics, “CAT cat, cat maane billi…BOY boy, boy maane ladka”. So, what certificate do you think a film should have under such circumstances – pidgin? And just a while before that you were talking about how we ought not to sanitize a language. Hindi happens to be the national language of our country, and anything that technically qualifies as such will be certified thus.
Now, I only hope you don’t resent my ‘namak-halali’, for I am not implying any namak-haraami on your part. Which reminds me, after all the hurt you expressed about the different standards people adopt for both of us, I had gone and defended you on the other Board. Not one word of appreciation, thanks, dhanyawaad, shukria from you. Hell, is duniya mein insaaf hi nahin :)
#161 Posted by ShirinAhmed on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
temporal # 145
Excusssssssse meeeeeeee !! i donot like to be addressed as `` yaar `` aur aap ka zoor ka qehqaha kuch aur hee nai kahani suna raha hai .... :)
sa
Excusssssssse meeeeeeee !! i donot like to be addressed as `` yaar `` aur aap ka zoor ka qehqaha kuch aur hee nai kahani suna raha hai .... :)
sa
#162 Posted by SameerJB on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
Urstruly #162: Thanks a lot for providing the link. I recall this site by some other name few months ago. Both Manzur Ejaz and Dr. Tariq Rehman are very qualified and talented individuals. I have previously did cut-n-paste job from their articles regarding origin of Punjabi language and rebuttal of Punjabi politics bashing.
They have doen good job of improving this site with the addition of poetry and music. I am going to send them a note of thanks and best wishes.
P.S. If you like watching video or DVD`s, a good music video out couple of months ago is ``Ajit Sabhyacharak Mela 2000``. It was held in Jullundhar with most of the well-known east Punjabi artists taking part in it. Never seen a Punjabi concert quite like it.
They have doen good job of improving this site with the addition of poetry and music. I am going to send them a note of thanks and best wishes.
P.S. If you like watching video or DVD`s, a good music video out couple of months ago is ``Ajit Sabhyacharak Mela 2000``. It was held in Jullundhar with most of the well-known east Punjabi artists taking part in it. Never seen a Punjabi concert quite like it.
#163 Posted by Pankaj on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
Studebaker
I think I had not written anything to be qualified as lecturing. Even when writing about Sati, I did not claim to know the origin of word. I simply mentioned whatever I knew about the custom. I am very well aware of the fact that Urdu contains Sanskrit words. In the same manner, spoken Hindi also contains several words with different origins. In fact, when a language spreads or comes into contact with another, there is invariably some exchange between the two. However the kind of response my post elicited from you makes me think that you are basically insecure and on a perpetual lookout for any real or imaginary slight. Goodluck.
Sincerely
I think I had not written anything to be qualified as lecturing. Even when writing about Sati, I did not claim to know the origin of word. I simply mentioned whatever I knew about the custom. I am very well aware of the fact that Urdu contains Sanskrit words. In the same manner, spoken Hindi also contains several words with different origins. In fact, when a language spreads or comes into contact with another, there is invariably some exchange between the two. However the kind of response my post elicited from you makes me think that you are basically insecure and on a perpetual lookout for any real or imaginary slight. Goodluck.
Sincerely
#164 Posted by ShirinAhmed on April 29, 2001 9:31:01 pm
Urstruly #161
Calgary itself is just another city, but what is really worth is touring the Canadian Rockies, and passing through places like Banff, Lake Louise , and adjacent vicinity. You could make Calgary your starting point or ending of the journey . drive through these places .
Victoria is a real `` koh kaaf ``, acc. to our family and friends in Pakistan .For most people generally Canada begins in Toronto and ends there :)So Victoria somehow is still the world`s best kept secrets , though is being discovered gradually, and now i consider it to be rush hour if i have 10 cars in front of me, as opposed to 4 , in the earlier years , and i consider it busy in the shopping mall if there are 6 people ahead of me in the line up for payments , instead of 3 !! so it is getting bigger by victoria standards !!
However the Victorians hate changes , so i dont think it will ever loose its naturalbeauty and Heavens never get commercialised . At least till the Nearly Deads are around :)
Do give us a shout whenever you plan a trip. We would be truly delighted to show us around `` koh kaaf ``!
Btw , i cannot deny all that Dost Mittar # 150 has said about it :)
Yellow Knife !! now i am really trying to think how that fits in ? no,no, not even White Horse , regardless of how fanciful there names sound !! please keep away from those places , unless you want to display your wrists thee to someone :)
take care ,
Dost -mittar # 150
I am not a ``Lakhnavi ``, but quite close :
I think Dosanjh`s days are now outnumbered , aur un key Raaj key dinoon Ka sikha aab ziyada nahin chaley ga !! this is the definate feel here .He need 40 seats to form the govt. whether it is going to be zero or 10, he is definately going to loose !
The election date is close approaching so lets see !
love ,
sa :)
Calgary itself is just another city, but what is really worth is touring the Canadian Rockies, and passing through places like Banff, Lake Louise , and adjacent vicinity. You could make Calgary your starting point or ending of the journey . drive through these places .
Victoria is a real `` koh kaaf ``, acc. to our family and friends in Pakistan .For most people generally Canada begins in Toronto and ends there :)So Victoria somehow is still the world`s best kept secrets , though is being discovered gradually, and now i consider it to be rush hour if i have 10 cars in front of me, as opposed to 4 , in the earlier years , and i consider it busy in the shopping mall if there are 6 people ahead of me in the line up for payments , instead of 3 !! so it is getting bigger by victoria standards !!
However the Victorians hate changes , so i dont think it will ever loose its naturalbeauty and Heavens never get commercialised . At least till the Nearly Deads are around :)
Do give us a shout whenever you plan a trip. We would be truly delighted to show us around `` koh kaaf ``!
Btw , i cannot deny all that Dost Mittar # 150 has said about it :)
Yellow Knife !! now i am really trying to think how that fits in ? no,no, not even White Horse , regardless of how fanciful there names sound !! please keep away from those places , unless you want to display your wrists thee to someone :)
take care ,
Dost -mittar # 150
I am not a ``Lakhnavi ``, but quite close :
I think Dosanjh`s days are now outnumbered , aur un key Raaj key dinoon Ka sikha aab ziyada nahin chaley ga !! this is the definate feel here .He need 40 seats to form the govt. whether it is going to be zero or 10, he is definately going to loose !
The election date is close approaching so lets see !
love ,
sa :)
#165 Posted by Studebaker on April 30, 2001 3:59:56 am
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#167 Posted by fzk on April 30, 2001 11:06:33 am
Dear Urstruly #160
Guess most women are elemental.
And confuse you men when we are not in our
usual elements. Id rather have the Water and
Fire and Earthy elements describe me, not airy..:)
Anyway, why be like every other writer has done before. And why deliberately sound political?
Why the comparison?
Its Facism really.
The whole Aryan /non-Aryan thing must end.
Be you. :) What says you fellow Aryan, Farzana?
Rgds,
fzk/..
Aey Farzana #143
Mein kiya boloon? Mereko itnaij problem tere paas aane ko jitna tereko he -kiya re?
Pun jub upoon ko visa/tickut lage ga, toh jo too bolegi hum apne dabbe mein bhar ke laega -kiya?
Imitaz or mushy Mushy ke saath hone ka toh nahi pata, apne type ka area hij nahi. Magar Imtiaz
ke ilawa aur bhi jiyada A-one sitare millenga.
Bol, aati kiya Karachi?
Mein tereko Bundu Khan ka kaanda kabab khilaegi.
Urstruly apni baatien koh igonore marejaega,
bohat sharif hae bacha bechara.
Love,fzk/..
Guess most women are elemental.
And confuse you men when we are not in our
usual elements. Id rather have the Water and
Fire and Earthy elements describe me, not airy..:)
Anyway, why be like every other writer has done before. And why deliberately sound political?
Why the comparison?
Its Facism really.
The whole Aryan /non-Aryan thing must end.
Be you. :) What says you fellow Aryan, Farzana?
Rgds,
fzk/..
Aey Farzana #143
Mein kiya boloon? Mereko itnaij problem tere paas aane ko jitna tereko he -kiya re?
Pun jub upoon ko visa/tickut lage ga, toh jo too bolegi hum apne dabbe mein bhar ke laega -kiya?
Imitaz or mushy Mushy ke saath hone ka toh nahi pata, apne type ka area hij nahi. Magar Imtiaz
ke ilawa aur bhi jiyada A-one sitare millenga.
Bol, aati kiya Karachi?
Mein tereko Bundu Khan ka kaanda kabab khilaegi.
Urstruly apni baatien koh igonore marejaega,
bohat sharif hae bacha bechara.
Love,fzk/..
#168 Posted by Urstruly on April 30, 2001 12:32:26 pm
Dear Shirin
Yellow Knife was on my wish list until I saw the real fury of blizzards trapped in a northern Ontario nowehere-land. I was fascinated by it (YK) for two reasons, one was, it being the Northern most end of the world where some civilization exists and second was an inspiration from short story writer (forgetting his name) who always writes about snow-storms, bears, and wolves etc.-your kids might know his name-he is big.
Yellow Knife was on my wish list until I saw the real fury of blizzards trapped in a northern Ontario nowehere-land. I was fascinated by it (YK) for two reasons, one was, it being the Northern most end of the world where some civilization exists and second was an inspiration from short story writer (forgetting his name) who always writes about snow-storms, bears, and wolves etc.-your kids might know his name-he is big.
#169 Posted by Zehra on April 30, 2001 12:42:00 pm
yerstruly...
your email keep freezing up my inbox so i had to delete it without reading it.
sorry..i think you were in the process of begging for forgivness or something :)
rizvi.
your email keep freezing up my inbox so i had to delete it without reading it.
sorry..i think you were in the process of begging for forgivness or something :)
rizvi.
#170 Posted by Urstruly on April 30, 2001 1:03:26 pm
Zehra
You must be hallucinating under the spell of anti-depressants :)
You must be hallucinating under the spell of anti-depressants :)
#171 Posted by Urstruly on April 30, 2001 4:22:38 pm
Dost_Mitter
You are welcome. I am unfamiliar with Inderjit; probably I have heard him without knowing his name. I suggest that you write to apnaorg people about it. They are very receptive.
I think with persian script, all punjabi sounds are available, including `bh` except the sound of soft N coupled with a hard R. But such accent is particular to southern punjab and siraiki belt. Sindhi has its own alphabet to pronounce N-R combination. I have read some Panjabi authors using that particular sindhi alphabet. Sindhi again is written in arabic/persian script.
I did learn gormukhi script while I was a student a few years ago from a sikh friend. But then due to lack of practice and exposure (and sikh friend being a male) I have forgot most of the alphabets:). I think it will take a week for me to be on track again.
You are welcome. I am unfamiliar with Inderjit; probably I have heard him without knowing his name. I suggest that you write to apnaorg people about it. They are very receptive.
I think with persian script, all punjabi sounds are available, including `bh` except the sound of soft N coupled with a hard R. But such accent is particular to southern punjab and siraiki belt. Sindhi has its own alphabet to pronounce N-R combination. I have read some Panjabi authors using that particular sindhi alphabet. Sindhi again is written in arabic/persian script.
I did learn gormukhi script while I was a student a few years ago from a sikh friend. But then due to lack of practice and exposure (and sikh friend being a male) I have forgot most of the alphabets:). I think it will take a week for me to be on track again.
#173 Posted by Urstruly on April 30, 2001 4:35:06 pm
SameerJB
Thanks for your pointer to the VCD, I will definitely look at it once I get out of this temporary music-deaf state of mind. I am a die hard fan of Ata Ullah Khan Isa khailvi and once had his ``ni oothaaN waalay tur jaan gay`` taped on both sides of the cassette which I used to play non-stop. Have you read Dr. Younus Butt especially his ``too too main main``-I must admit that guy ``phatiaN bhan ditiaN nay`` :)
Thanks for your pointer to the VCD, I will definitely look at it once I get out of this temporary music-deaf state of mind. I am a die hard fan of Ata Ullah Khan Isa khailvi and once had his ``ni oothaaN waalay tur jaan gay`` taped on both sides of the cassette which I used to play non-stop. Have you read Dr. Younus Butt especially his ``too too main main``-I must admit that guy ``phatiaN bhan ditiaN nay`` :)
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