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Loves loved {some not so loved}

Zehra Rizvi May 11, 2001

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#51 Posted by anika on May 17, 2001 10:01:11 pm
zehra, anyone

good stuff; I just need to ask a question here, if the author is the same person who wrote `` growing up an american muslim `` way back sometime, and if so how come the radical difference in the two personnas and the attitude to life -among other things? I understand about how the I in narration is supposed to be seperate from the I in real life but even those earlier posts seem to be from a completely different individual. sorry about being so uninformed, I just started interacting here a short while ago.



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#50 Posted by Urstruly on May 17, 2001 5:32:33 pm
Aeisha

I am not as indicisive as you think I am. See I`ve made up my mind, agreeing with you, that nothing is for sure on internet. And see I agree with people too:)

Thanks for the free psycho-analysis. I do keep all analyses of my personality in my little scarp book and revere them whenever I am lonely and sad and bipolar etc.





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#49 Posted by apparition on May 17, 2001 3:30:45 pm
In my observation the transition from lover to pal only takes place when one is not willing to let go and is ready to settle for tidbits and scraps.

What about the lurking pain and tension that caused the break up in the first place ????????

And Bina and Zehra lets be honest, why think of this as a characteristic of Pakistani society??? Isn’t it difficult to find a person just about anywhere who would exhibit his personal life for all? Zehra`s boldness is definitely commendable and refreshing.

Re Godot

People who resist love are the ones who need it the most :)

P.S The piece was a treat to read.



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#47 Posted by Urstruly on May 17, 2001 8:39:10 am
Aiesha!

:)
I have two comments on your post``

1. Laholwalquwat, when did I question the capabilities of women writers, poets etc. All I asked was that I wanted Zarda and I am presented with Pallao all the time. Not that I dont like Pallao but I cant eat it all the time. It is just a matter of taste.

Let me be more candid here-I want to understand a women`s feeling of ecstacy that comes with the fulfilment. And by God by ecsatcy and fulfilment I dont mean ``that`` (so keep your fingers off the keyboard Zehra :)). It is the feeling of contentment and joy that I want to understand. That`s all. Chowk has been blessed with some of very good writers. I hav already mentioned Saima Shah, Bad Girl, and Anne. Have you read Zeejah`s ``Puppet``? I read it with a jaw dropping awe. Jawahra is also blessed with good writing skills. Farzana`s poetry is excellent, I am leaving her political analyses out of discussion for now-not that they are bad or good but we are only talking literature here. Bina Shah has excellent writing skills only if she learns to resist being tabloidish. And Scout, she writes well, her poetry has a feeling-and then there is Zehra.

2. I suggest that you get in line in order to run a psychoanalysis on yours truly. The list of people of have and who want to do that is long. I usually get at least one assessment of my personality per day. Have you people ever thought that I may be too lazy to have more than one handles or may be I just dont care about my image or may be I just like to speak my mind or may be I am just poking people or may be I am just playing poker with the people or may be....

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#46 Posted by sac on May 16, 2001 7:17:18 pm
re Missfit #40:

``An intelligent rich man.........``.

Lets not kid ourselves shall we. ``A rich man`` would be more appropriate considering the rest of your post.

re binifer #41:

Cyber-relationships(whatever that means) are for the ugly......Jesus!!

later

-sac



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#44 Posted by Zehra on May 16, 2001 11:57:19 am
saad, nope never but if you are in ny we can meet up..no problem. that would be fun. you can e- me at fatimazehrarizvi@hotmail.com.

urstruly...sheer genius? such effusive praise. and the what the hell comment...i dont know man, i thought this was a pretty upbeat poem. i mean im at a good place, i think.

perfidy...no kerouc..no catcher in the rye. i dont like those books...i just cant relate to a white male growing up.
though i do love joyce. and portrait of an artist as a young man...that more about alienation and metaphors.

sac, mothers in relation to daughters is just too good of a connection to let go of.

rizvi

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#43 Posted by dL on May 16, 2001 10:13:33 am
``Does every woman have that one relationship that was so good, that it got even better 6 months after it was over?``

you must be one of those very few lucky ones ... i liked the nuances of your opening para ... i liked the thoughts running helter skelter through your words ... i liked the ``four cities too late, three golden opportunities too early`` choice of words.

Have you read Chandra`s ``Golden Gate`` ...

cheers

dL



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#42 Posted by PM on May 16, 2001 10:13:33 am
Zehra, if i may use this space for a sec...

To all Karachiwalay:

check out apnakarachi.com



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#41 Posted by Binifer on May 16, 2001 10:13:33 am
sac Reply # 34

like you guys have these cyber relationships and find it hard to get over THEM?

jeeziz



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#40 Posted by MissFit on May 16, 2001 10:13:33 am
It is better to invest in a good (not to mention ever faithful) vibrator, than to endure the nuances of romantic love or lust. Women will not attain their fair share of sexual or emotional satisfaction in a relationship with a man. Let us not waste our time losing ourselves in unfruitful labor. A word of advice to Zehra: find an intelligent rich man, procreate to produce more female offspring, and build a solid career. Become a legacy all of your own. If a male wants to tag along, let him. But once he invades into the delicate paths of your mind, lose him.



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#39 Posted by Asim on May 16, 2001 10:13:33 am
RE `` Hingol #38

``Is this friend of yours gay by any chance?``

Pretty astute observation.



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#38 Posted by hingol on May 15, 2001 8:40:54 pm
A very nice work indeed.

Is this friend of yours gay by any chance?



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#37 Posted by bong_dongs on May 15, 2001 7:15:57 pm
ref bijli

slightly off topic

speaking about flying vehicles (people) in the Ramayana/Mahabharata anyone here read Eric Von Daniken`s stuff?



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#36 Posted by SaadPAslam on May 15, 2001 7:15:57 pm
zehra:

do you ever go to the dastak things?



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#35 Posted by sac on May 15, 2001 12:05:59 pm
Zehra:

Mr. K got it out of his system a year or so back. For you it seems to have taken longer. In return we do get to read some very enchanting words. This one for some strange reason reminds me of Parveen Shakir. Same multi-layered textures and self-effacing excuses of sensual guilt....

later

-sac

P.S: If possible, next time please leave your mother out of it if you can :)



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#34 Posted by gfm on May 15, 2001 12:05:59 pm


``Strumming your pain....

singing your life with his words``

.....roberta Flack

nice work there fzr

killing you softly?



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