Brahmin and Mullah

tahmed321#165;

Thanks for that post. It was brilliant. With people like you, my anger at dumb Paki racists is deflated. Just like India has its idiots, so does your country, and I shall resist the temptation to insult a whole nation based on the vomiting of some individuals.

God bless you.

hobbyty;

What a great social mobility and equality Islam offers. Muslim brotherhood, non Muslims = infidels and lesser humans. Non muslim is lesser than a Muslim. Such great brotherhood your religion offers.

Hindus are demolishing the caste system themselves. Look in your own backyard, spare your self righteousness for someone else.

Shankar#193;

``I`m reeeally puzzled why you favourite sons & daughters of God criticise brahmins so much when they feel they are they are a special previliged ``caste``!``

Ha Ha! I have been wondering about that myself. Just realise these people are not true Muslims like tahmed321 who are humble and respectful as their religion instructs. These people just have a fundamental hatred of and inability to accept the existence of Hindus.

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Shankar:

You write very well. In fact, I think you should be producing articles on Chowk - just for knowledge sake! It`s always a great pleasure to read your well thought-out perspectives.

I have recently read Scott Peck and I am reading a few more of his penetrating case studies just for a change of setting :) Being a poetry person; prose has been a little hard on my well-being :) Laiken Phir Bhee Koshish Kur Rahee Hoon Keh Case Studies Ko Achi Tarah Sae PurH Loon.

I quickly glanced through your post, and something that stood out, was the emphasis on ``Perfect.`` I would replace that with ``Complete.`` I think that`s what the basic intent was. I can be corrected if it was otherwise, but I doubt it. There are some verses on that as well. I cannot think of them at the moment. Also, I do not believe in quoting Holy Verses on these boards where people speak all kinds of bolian.

Take Care.

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#190 AeishA

``If i say my parents are smarter than yours ,it doesnt mean ,you

disown your parents .``

But they aren`t! QED.

Reply #: 195

binifer

Haha now thats what i call the height of femininity!

Reply #: 189

AAmir

Chootay bhai,Bhaijaan,aap kis duniya mai rehtay hain.Kia larkian ungraceful,careless,awkward,gawky, etc nahi ho sakteen???aik tau in gender biases say mai tang aa gai hoon :P .. kia ap larkon nay ``Klutz`` ko copyright keeya hua hai??? patent laga hua hai kia? ab larkian aisay names use bhi nahi kar sakteen.are you one of those ppl who believe that pink is for gurls and blue is for guys?..how boring.

Reply #: 186

tahmed321

Yes i do know that``The concept of an ``islamic republic`` is a patently unIslamic piece of nonsense that is propogated by those who hope to gain a position of power in Pakistan through devious means.`` and i agree with u whole-heartedly.I have never really accepted this ``rubbish`` as u call it.. because i do know how much islamic our govt is and our state is!Still it is called an islamic republic which means it can certainly not be called a secular state.

Reply #: 185

tahmed321

Hehe i couldnt agree with u more.

Reply #: 203

Siraj

``Why then is the majority of the world not Muslim?``

Im afraid i cannot answer that...time will tell.But can u answer me why is it that islam is the fastest growing religion today?I havent studied on every religion...but i have enough knowledge on many of the religions practiced today.maybe i was wrong to state that ``Every religion has a flaw except Islam`` what i meant was that islam has no flaw.

No sir we donot pray to that ``black stone``.. u are very wrong there.

anyway i know that u respect ur religion as i respect mine and that we both will go on and on about ur belief and my belief....and in the end we will always disagree...so as ive said to many others lets not argue. Thankyou.

Reply #: 199

egalitarian_brahmin

ahh...so uve been to my dorm..have u??How do u know i have my parents picture in my room?..

``or reasoning along the lines of ``He is too Great to be symbolized``



haha thats exactly what i was going to do.I practically wrote a whole debate on it:P

``So what say you we agree to disagree on this one?``

Yes lets do that :)

``Their beliefs might be different, but need you (the Muslims) incessantly assert that yours is the ONE and ONLY correct belief system?``

egalitarian_brahmin i think we are back to point #1 here. Yes i do believe that OUR belief system is The One and only correct system.Do u think id sstill be a muslim if i thought otherwise?I know islam is the correct system and nothing will change my mind.believe me i could go on and on about this whole subject but nothings going to change ur mind as well and we`ll just keep on argueing till we are both blue in the face.so let us not argue about it anymore.

Reply #: 198

monasehgal

Yes mona i believe beauty lies in imperfection ( for some things that is).As u said one would not appreciate happiness without having a dose of sorrow.But if religion is not perfect do u think people would want to follow that religion with their heart?Some dont question their religious beliefs ... they believe that they were born in this religion.. its their fate...who are they to question it?But what about those who would want to question their religions imperfection?Wouldnt they want to follow a perfect religion?Wouldnt they want to find the perfect answers?Will they not want to follow something with their heart.

why is it that there are almost non-existent people who converted to christianity,buddhism,hinduism etc.And islam is the fastest growing religion?Its something to think about isnt it?

Reply #: 201

sadna

``Are Islamic laws perfect too? ``

Yes islamic laws are perfect. They are made by Allah and He is all-wise and so are His laws.One may question these laws but he/she will find out that for every law there is a very logical and wise reason behind it.Thats what i believe and most of the muslims too.

Sadna one cannot really know if they are perfect...but atleast our present day scholars are trying their best to make recommendations in the light of islam.

Anyway everyone has their own opinion and beliefs i cannot really force anyone to believe what i myself believe.

Reply #: 193

shankar

So you were being sarcastic..im soo sorry shankar jee that i didnt notice yr sarcasm.. you are so good at expressing yrself that i actually thought u meant all that stuff.

``The irony is that those who thump the Bible, Geeta or Koran on their chest the loudest are the ones who insult religion the most.``

Do u think that one should be embarrassed just because he/she is religious or believes that his/her religion is perfect?Insult religion .. my FOOT! You are the one whos insulting religion right now! Atleast we have some respect for our religion.I dont really care what u say.. i know what right and wrong is and im proud to be a muslim.

``There is good & bad in EVERY religion.``

Now that is where u are very wrong.Yes ``muslim countries have the same incidence of sins as Western countries`` as u said but it is because of the people who live in these countries.Islam has only good in it.As i said bfr it is only the ignorant ppl who make it seem otherwise.Anyway im afraid we are not going to agree on anything so why argue.As u wrote lets agree to disagree.

Professor saab, I respect your views and do not disagree. Does any army officer agree with you.

anyway im tired of this never ending discussion...its really not going anywhere...

i apologize for being disrespectful to anyones religion.

i know everyone respects their religion...

Klutz

klutz #215
Thanks for your reply.

``but atleast our present day scholars are trying their best to make recommendations in the light of islam.``

What if an Islamic scholar says women cannot vote? Would you accept this?

``Anyway everyone has their own opinion and beliefs i cannot really force anyone to believe what i myself believe.``

Whether those in prison for violation for `Islamic laws` may perhaps have different opinions and beliefs?