Rehan Ansari July 11, 2001
#37 Posted by saminashah on July 22, 2001 8:41:53 pm
Uqab Sahib,
Kindly keep your comments to yourself. You make a mistake in assuming that the readers of Chowk agree with your viewpoints. Your comments are particularly inappropriate.
Kindly keep your comments to yourself. You make a mistake in assuming that the readers of Chowk agree with your viewpoints. Your comments are particularly inappropriate.
#36 Posted by saminashah on July 22, 2001 8:41:53 pm
Dear Kiran and Nasah,
Its lovely to see your posts. It does get a little khutah on the other boards, doesn`t it? Do either of you write? I am actually new to Chowk, but am very happy to have found it.
Leaving Sonora
living in the desert
has taught me to go inside myself
for shade -Richard Shelton
Certain landsacapes insist on fidelity.
Why else would a poet of this desert
go deep inside himself for shade?
Only there do the perished tribes live.
The desert insists, always: Be faithful,
even to those who no longer exist.
The Hohokam lived here for 1500 years.
In his shade, the poet sees one of their women, beautiful, her voice low as summer thunder.
Each night she saw, among the culinary ashes,
what the earth does only through a terrible pressure-
the fire, in minutes, transforming the coal into diamonds.
I left the desert at night-to return
to the East. From the plane I saw Tucson`s lights
shatter into blue diamonds. My eyes dazzled
as we climbed higher: below a thin cloud,
and only for a moment, I saw those blue lights fade
into the outlines of a vanished village.
from A Nostalgist`s Map of America
Its lovely to see your posts. It does get a little khutah on the other boards, doesn`t it? Do either of you write? I am actually new to Chowk, but am very happy to have found it.
Leaving Sonora
living in the desert
has taught me to go inside myself
for shade -Richard Shelton
Certain landsacapes insist on fidelity.
Why else would a poet of this desert
go deep inside himself for shade?
Only there do the perished tribes live.
The desert insists, always: Be faithful,
even to those who no longer exist.
The Hohokam lived here for 1500 years.
In his shade, the poet sees one of their women, beautiful, her voice low as summer thunder.
Each night she saw, among the culinary ashes,
what the earth does only through a terrible pressure-
the fire, in minutes, transforming the coal into diamonds.
I left the desert at night-to return
to the East. From the plane I saw Tucson`s lights
shatter into blue diamonds. My eyes dazzled
as we climbed higher: below a thin cloud,
and only for a moment, I saw those blue lights fade
into the outlines of a vanished village.
from A Nostalgist`s Map of America
#35 Posted by Kiran- on July 21, 2001 6:07:46 pm
Nasah: Thought nobody would ask. The board was dying; let`s keep the poetry flowing ladies and gentlemen.
Rehan, how about posting some other memories you have of the good poet?
SNOWMEN
My ancestor, a man
of Himalayan snow,
came to Kashmir from Samarkand,
carrying a bag
of whale bones:
heirlooms from sea funerals.
His skeleton
carved from glaciers, his breath
arctic,
he froze women in his embrace.
His wife thawed into stony water,
her old age a clear
evaporation.
This heirloom,
his skeleton under my skin, passed
from son to grandson,
generations of snowmen on my back.
They tap every year on my window,
their voices hushed to ice.
No, they won`t let me out of winter,
and I`ve promised myself,
even if I`m the last snowman,
that I`ll ride into spring
on their melting shoulders.
from The Half-Inch Himalayas
Rehan, how about posting some other memories you have of the good poet?
SNOWMEN
My ancestor, a man
of Himalayan snow,
came to Kashmir from Samarkand,
carrying a bag
of whale bones:
heirlooms from sea funerals.
His skeleton
carved from glaciers, his breath
arctic,
he froze women in his embrace.
His wife thawed into stony water,
her old age a clear
evaporation.
This heirloom,
his skeleton under my skin, passed
from son to grandson,
generations of snowmen on my back.
They tap every year on my window,
their voices hushed to ice.
No, they won`t let me out of winter,
and I`ve promised myself,
even if I`m the last snowman,
that I`ll ride into spring
on their melting shoulders.
from The Half-Inch Himalayas
#34 Posted by Kiran- on July 21, 2001 6:07:46 pm
Nasah: Thought nobody would ask. The board was dying; let`s keep the poetry flowing ladies and gentlemen.
Rehan, how about posting some other memories you have of the good poet?
SNOWMEN
My ancestor, a man
of Himalayan snow,
came to Kashmir from Samarkand,
carrying a bag
of whale bones:
heirlooms from sea funerals.
His skeleton
carved from glaciers, his breath
arctic,
he froze women in his embrace.
His wife thawed into stony water,
her old age a clear
evaporation.
This heirloom,
his skeleton under my skin, passed
from son to grandson,
generations of snowmen on my back.
They tap every year on my window,
their voices hushed to ice.
No, they won`t let me out of winter,
and I`ve promised myself,
even if I`m the last snowman,
that I`ll ride into spring
on their melting shoulders.
from The Half-Inch Himalayas
Rehan, how about posting some other memories you have of the good poet?
SNOWMEN
My ancestor, a man
of Himalayan snow,
came to Kashmir from Samarkand,
carrying a bag
of whale bones:
heirlooms from sea funerals.
His skeleton
carved from glaciers, his breath
arctic,
he froze women in his embrace.
His wife thawed into stony water,
her old age a clear
evaporation.
This heirloom,
his skeleton under my skin, passed
from son to grandson,
generations of snowmen on my back.
They tap every year on my window,
their voices hushed to ice.
No, they won`t let me out of winter,
and I`ve promised myself,
even if I`m the last snowman,
that I`ll ride into spring
on their melting shoulders.
from The Half-Inch Himalayas
#33 Posted by nasah on July 21, 2001 1:19:13 pm
Dear Kiran, Samina, Zehra
How about another poem of Agha Shahid Ali to sweeten the bitter taste of Indo-Pak politics on other boards
How about another poem of Agha Shahid Ali to sweeten the bitter taste of Indo-Pak politics on other boards
#32 Posted by nasah on July 17, 2001 6:54:29 pm
Dear Kiran:
Point well taken, sorry. You`re right. Let`s keep this board free of politics.
Point well taken, sorry. You`re right. Let`s keep this board free of politics.
#31 Posted by nasah on July 17, 2001 6:54:02 pm
Dear Kiran:
Point well taken, sorry. You`re right. Let`s keep this board free of politics.
Point well taken, sorry. You`re right. Let`s keep this board free of politics.
#30 Posted by Kiran- on July 17, 2001 1:17:58 pm
Attn: UQAB, Bapu etc.:
This is NOT a POLITICAL board, can you please take your political regurgitations to the zillion other pages on Chowk. This is for Agha Shahid Ali and his works. Is that CLEAR???????
Samina, thanks your selections are wonderful, I`ll post some more, too annoyed by these pseudo-political posters and postings at the moment.
Nasah, atleast aap to is board pay seyasat sey ijtenab karein!
This is NOT a POLITICAL board, can you please take your political regurgitations to the zillion other pages on Chowk. This is for Agha Shahid Ali and his works. Is that CLEAR???????
Samina, thanks your selections are wonderful, I`ll post some more, too annoyed by these pseudo-political posters and postings at the moment.
Nasah, atleast aap to is board pay seyasat sey ijtenab karein!
#29 Posted by Kiran- on July 17, 2001 1:17:58 pm
Attn: UQAB, Bapu etc.:
This is NOT a POLITICAL board, can you please take your political regurgitations to the zillion other pages on Chowk. This is for Agha Shahid Ali and his works. Is that CLEAR???????
Samina, thanks your selections are wonderful, I`ll post some more, too annoyed by these pseudo-political posters and postings at the moment.
Nasah, atleast aap to is board pay seyasat sey ijtenab karein!
This is NOT a POLITICAL board, can you please take your political regurgitations to the zillion other pages on Chowk. This is for Agha Shahid Ali and his works. Is that CLEAR???????
Samina, thanks your selections are wonderful, I`ll post some more, too annoyed by these pseudo-political posters and postings at the moment.
Nasah, atleast aap to is board pay seyasat sey ijtenab karein!
#28 Posted by saminashah on July 17, 2001 11:09:42 am
thanks Kiran, Nasah and Zahra
lets have another go...
A Lost Memory of Delhi
I am not born
it is 1948 and the bus turns
onto a road without name
There on his bicycle
my father
He is younger than I
At Okhla where I get off
I pass my parents strolling by the Jamuna River
My mother is a recent bride
her sari a blaze of brocade
Silverdust parts her hair
She doesn`t see me
The bells of her anklets are distant
like the sound of china from
teashops being lit up with lanterns
and the stars are coming out
ringing with tongues of glass
They go into the house
always faded in the photographs
in the family album
but lit up now
with the oil lamp
I saw broken in the attic
I want to tell them I am their son
older, much older than they are
I knock keep knocking
but for them the night is quiet
this the night of my being
They don`t they wont
hear me won`t hear
my knocking drowning out
the tongues of stars
from The Half Inch Himalayas
lets have another go...
A Lost Memory of Delhi
I am not born
it is 1948 and the bus turns
onto a road without name
There on his bicycle
my father
He is younger than I
At Okhla where I get off
I pass my parents strolling by the Jamuna River
My mother is a recent bride
her sari a blaze of brocade
Silverdust parts her hair
She doesn`t see me
The bells of her anklets are distant
like the sound of china from
teashops being lit up with lanterns
and the stars are coming out
ringing with tongues of glass
They go into the house
always faded in the photographs
in the family album
but lit up now
with the oil lamp
I saw broken in the attic
I want to tell them I am their son
older, much older than they are
I knock keep knocking
but for them the night is quiet
this the night of my being
They don`t they wont
hear me won`t hear
my knocking drowning out
the tongues of stars
from The Half Inch Himalayas
#27 Posted by nasah on July 17, 2001 1:21:40 am
Sarwar:
``India-Pakistan Talks Collapse, No Joint Declaration``.
So, what else is new in Agha Shahid Ali`s beloved subcontinent.
``India-Pakistan Talks Collapse, No Joint Declaration``.
So, what else is new in Agha Shahid Ali`s beloved subcontinent.
#26 Posted by sarwar on July 16, 2001 12:51:38 pm
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#25 Posted by Kiran- on July 16, 2001 2:20:38 am
Here`s a lighter side of Ali`s work though thought-provoking at the same time:
The Wolf`s Postcript to `Little Red Riding Hood:`
First, grant me my sense of history:
I did it for posterity,
for kindergarten teachers
and a clear moral:
Little girls shouldn`t wander off
in search of strange flowers,
and they mustn`t speak to strangers.
And then grant me my generous sense of plot:
Couldn`t I have gobbled her up
right there in the jungle?
Why did I ask her where her grandma lived?
As if I, a forest-dweller,
didn`t know of the cottage
under the three oak trees
and the old woman lived there
all alone?
As if I couldn`t have swallowed her years before?
And you may call me the Big Bad Wolf,
now my only reputation.
But I was no child-molester
though you`ll agree she was pretty.
And the huntsman:
Was I sleeping while he snipped
my thick black fur
and filled me with garbage and stones?
I ran with that weight and fell down,
simply so children could laugh
at the noise of the stones
cutting through my belly,
at the garbage spilling out
with a perfect sense of timing,
just when the tale
should have come to an end.
From ``A Walk Through the Yellow Pages``
The Wolf`s Postcript to `Little Red Riding Hood:`
First, grant me my sense of history:
I did it for posterity,
for kindergarten teachers
and a clear moral:
Little girls shouldn`t wander off
in search of strange flowers,
and they mustn`t speak to strangers.
And then grant me my generous sense of plot:
Couldn`t I have gobbled her up
right there in the jungle?
Why did I ask her where her grandma lived?
As if I, a forest-dweller,
didn`t know of the cottage
under the three oak trees
and the old woman lived there
all alone?
As if I couldn`t have swallowed her years before?
And you may call me the Big Bad Wolf,
now my only reputation.
But I was no child-molester
though you`ll agree she was pretty.
And the huntsman:
Was I sleeping while he snipped
my thick black fur
and filled me with garbage and stones?
I ran with that weight and fell down,
simply so children could laugh
at the noise of the stones
cutting through my belly,
at the garbage spilling out
with a perfect sense of timing,
just when the tale
should have come to an end.
From ``A Walk Through the Yellow Pages``
#24 Posted by Kiran- on July 16, 2001 2:20:38 am
Here`s a lighter side of Ali`s work though thought-provoking at the same time:
The Wolf`s Postcript to `Little Red Riding Hood:`
First, grant me my sense of history:
I did it for posterity,
for kindergarten teachers
and a clear moral:
Little girls shouldn`t wander off
in search of strange flowers,
and they mustn`t speak to strangers.
And then grant me my generous sense of plot:
Couldn`t I have gobbled her up
right there in the jungle?
Why did I ask her where her grandma lived?
As if I, a forest-dweller,
didn`t know of the cottage
under the three oak trees
and the old woman lived there
all alone?
As if I couldn`t have swallowed her years before?
And you may call me the Big Bad Wolf,
now my only reputation.
But I was no child-molester
though you`ll agree she was pretty.
And the huntsman:
Was I sleeping while he snipped
my thick black fur
and filled me with garbage and stones?
I ran with that weight and fell down,
simply so children could laugh
at the noise of the stones
cutting through my belly,
at the garbage spilling out
with a perfect sense of timing,
just when the tale
should have come to an end.
From ``A Walk Through the Yellow Pages``
The Wolf`s Postcript to `Little Red Riding Hood:`
First, grant me my sense of history:
I did it for posterity,
for kindergarten teachers
and a clear moral:
Little girls shouldn`t wander off
in search of strange flowers,
and they mustn`t speak to strangers.
And then grant me my generous sense of plot:
Couldn`t I have gobbled her up
right there in the jungle?
Why did I ask her where her grandma lived?
As if I, a forest-dweller,
didn`t know of the cottage
under the three oak trees
and the old woman lived there
all alone?
As if I couldn`t have swallowed her years before?
And you may call me the Big Bad Wolf,
now my only reputation.
But I was no child-molester
though you`ll agree she was pretty.
And the huntsman:
Was I sleeping while he snipped
my thick black fur
and filled me with garbage and stones?
I ran with that weight and fell down,
simply so children could laugh
at the noise of the stones
cutting through my belly,
at the garbage spilling out
with a perfect sense of timing,
just when the tale
should have come to an end.
From ``A Walk Through the Yellow Pages``
#23 Posted by nasah on July 15, 2001 7:51:05 pm
Thank you Zahra and thank you Samina for Shahid`s poems.
Please post some more.
Please post some more.
#22 Posted by Zehra on July 15, 2001 4:04:25 pm
my turn, just bits selected from shahid`s ghazals.
``Let There be Light,`` He said. ``And the
music of the spheres.``
To what tune does one set The Satanic Verses, Angels?
I won`t lift, off the air, any wingprints, O God-
Hire raw detectives to track down the mutinous angels.
All day we call it wisdom but then again at night
it`s only pain as it somes from the darkness, Angels!
Do the dye their wings after FOrever,
tinting their haloes,
aging zero without Time, those
androgynous angels?
You play innocence so well, with such
precision, Shahid:
You could seduce God Himself, and fu *k
the sexless angels.
For Shahid too the night went ``quickly as it came``-
After that , O Friend! came the music of it all.
------
i`d pray for shahid but somehow it just doesnt seem enough.
rizvi
``Let There be Light,`` He said. ``And the
music of the spheres.``
To what tune does one set The Satanic Verses, Angels?
I won`t lift, off the air, any wingprints, O God-
Hire raw detectives to track down the mutinous angels.
All day we call it wisdom but then again at night
it`s only pain as it somes from the darkness, Angels!
Do the dye their wings after FOrever,
tinting their haloes,
aging zero without Time, those
androgynous angels?
You play innocence so well, with such
precision, Shahid:
You could seduce God Himself, and fu *k
the sexless angels.
For Shahid too the night went ``quickly as it came``-
After that , O Friend! came the music of it all.
------
i`d pray for shahid but somehow it just doesnt seem enough.
rizvi
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