Top Ten South Asian Pieces of Music
A J Nabi August 25, 2001
#46 Posted by stuka on August 28, 2001 3:25:31 pm
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Lot of new desi music, but they also have a decent oldie collection. Some good regional music too.
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#45 Posted by Romair on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
To all the Punjabi devotees: Since we are on the subject, the third and four words of, ``umran langiya`` (sung by both Asad Amanat and Daler Mehndi) are ``pahbban parrh.`` What are the various meanings of this phrase in Punjabi....
#44 Posted by nasah on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
``i don`t normally care for female singers``(Soysauce)
Why not?
Now here is remark to start a battle of sexes on this board like an ``alcohol`` war goinng on on another Chowk board.
Hmmm. Any comments, ladies.
You don`t think they are INFERIOR to men singers, by any means, soysauce -- do you?.
What about Puveen Sultans, Girja devi, Subhh Lakshmi ---prepare to take cover, soysauce.
Why not?
Now here is remark to start a battle of sexes on this board like an ``alcohol`` war goinng on on another Chowk board.
Hmmm. Any comments, ladies.
You don`t think they are INFERIOR to men singers, by any means, soysauce -- do you?.
What about Puveen Sultans, Girja devi, Subhh Lakshmi ---prepare to take cover, soysauce.
#43 Posted by stuka on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
Semipreciousme:
I didn`t mean to run down Junnon. Just think their image is too designer desi, even though the music is good. Reminds me of the people who speak Punjabi with clipped British accents at the Delhi Golf Club.
SammerJB: There is another song by Abrar, I can`t remember the name but it has something to do with GT Road. Also, talking of Bhaun, my absolute favorite Punjabi song is the one sang by Army recruiters during world war 2....
Bharti ho jao
Baahar khadey rangroot
O Bharti ho jao
This is a complete song and I`ll try and get the lyrics. It used to be sung by recruiting parties, and the lyrics bring out the rustic culture and lifestyle of the era in a beautiful manner.
I didn`t mean to run down Junnon. Just think their image is too designer desi, even though the music is good. Reminds me of the people who speak Punjabi with clipped British accents at the Delhi Golf Club.
SammerJB: There is another song by Abrar, I can`t remember the name but it has something to do with GT Road. Also, talking of Bhaun, my absolute favorite Punjabi song is the one sang by Army recruiters during world war 2....
Bharti ho jao
Baahar khadey rangroot
O Bharti ho jao
This is a complete song and I`ll try and get the lyrics. It used to be sung by recruiting parties, and the lyrics bring out the rustic culture and lifestyle of the era in a beautiful manner.
#42 Posted by Neptune on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
Zafar #33
Na Na Jafor-da, tumi bhishon proletariat. Only anti-rebholution reacshanaries are bourgeois and nonshense.
Na Na Jafor-da, tumi bhishon proletariat. Only anti-rebholution reacshanaries are bourgeois and nonshense.
#41 Posted by ShirinAhmed on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
A.J. Nabi,
What a lovely article. I too live in the earthquake belt [N.W.Canada ]Hmmmmm the thought of running with one`s favourite possessions at short notice is always there in the back of my mind. However my priorities keep changing with my mood.
If anyone remembers , there was a big threat of a huge flood approaching Karachi , sometime around `84.People were actually vacating parts of the city , filling their cars with gas ,loading it with everything they could , and preparing to fled.I thought everything for me was precious , most of all the fond memories in our newly bought town house soon after we got married .So i tried to narrow my list to a single item . My mind scanned a huge list of things, such as important documents, transcripts , favourite pieces of jewellery, my wedding outfit ,some nice pictures framed of the family, a few of my favourite books, and the list was odder and odder as it grew.. I asked my husband what he was planning to pack and he said `` just us ``. That changed the entire flow of thoughts . I felt ashamed at myself , for clutching onto items which seemed immediately worthless .However i was set in my mind , that i should take at least something .I would have felt a little daft if i had not , so again the thinking process began anew. Finally after going room to room, closet to closet , i picked the thing i would take with me .They were 3 large albums of my wedding photos. The darn photographer never gave out negatives, so in case the flood did come, perhaps his negatives, and my copies could have been swept away. So off they were packed , and i kept them in a plastic bag next to me.
With kids for the longest time it has been their childhood videos .
When my husband and kids dont listen to me , and i am left screaming at them, then it is my cd`s which are brought into a closer focus.
I liked your collection, so i wont bother keeping those .However i see Chandan Daas missing. Some of my favourites of his are
1. dil na miltae to mulaqat adhooree rehtee
2.sub ko dushman bana liya mey ney .
3. Aap ka pyar miley ga to sanwar jaien gey .
Now , let me know where you plan to head, i will follow you ..... shirin x 4 of us ..... we`ll swap cd`s ... how`s that ?
love,
sa:)
What a lovely article. I too live in the earthquake belt [N.W.Canada ]Hmmmmm the thought of running with one`s favourite possessions at short notice is always there in the back of my mind. However my priorities keep changing with my mood.
If anyone remembers , there was a big threat of a huge flood approaching Karachi , sometime around `84.People were actually vacating parts of the city , filling their cars with gas ,loading it with everything they could , and preparing to fled.I thought everything for me was precious , most of all the fond memories in our newly bought town house soon after we got married .So i tried to narrow my list to a single item . My mind scanned a huge list of things, such as important documents, transcripts , favourite pieces of jewellery, my wedding outfit ,some nice pictures framed of the family, a few of my favourite books, and the list was odder and odder as it grew.. I asked my husband what he was planning to pack and he said `` just us ``. That changed the entire flow of thoughts . I felt ashamed at myself , for clutching onto items which seemed immediately worthless .However i was set in my mind , that i should take at least something .I would have felt a little daft if i had not , so again the thinking process began anew. Finally after going room to room, closet to closet , i picked the thing i would take with me .They were 3 large albums of my wedding photos. The darn photographer never gave out negatives, so in case the flood did come, perhaps his negatives, and my copies could have been swept away. So off they were packed , and i kept them in a plastic bag next to me.
With kids for the longest time it has been their childhood videos .
When my husband and kids dont listen to me , and i am left screaming at them, then it is my cd`s which are brought into a closer focus.
I liked your collection, so i wont bother keeping those .However i see Chandan Daas missing. Some of my favourites of his are
1. dil na miltae to mulaqat adhooree rehtee
2.sub ko dushman bana liya mey ney .
3. Aap ka pyar miley ga to sanwar jaien gey .
Now , let me know where you plan to head, i will follow you ..... shirin x 4 of us ..... we`ll swap cd`s ... how`s that ?
love,
sa:)
#40 Posted by Lost Soul on August 28, 2001 1:45:19 pm
Hmm ... interesting debate ...
I`ve been visiting Chowk for quite some time now but this is the first time I feel compelled to participate in a discussion ...
Its interesting that the author has the heart to nominate ten songs as his favourites !! I mean I, for one, would never be able to decide which one to include or which to exclude !!! How can one include `Insha jee utho` by Ustad Amanat Ali Khan and forget about `Honton pay kabhi` by the same singer ... Plus talkin` of Lata or Kishore or Rafi, it would be hard enough selecting their respective best ten songs, rather than selecting one from each singer ...
One more thing in the discussion which kinda disappointed me was that there`s no mention of Tina Sani ... I mean her `Bol kay lab azad hain teray`, `Bahar aai`, `Gar tujhay is ka yaqeen ho`, `Ae Masjid-e-Qartaba`, etc. etc. are my all time favourites !!!
And hey, nobody talks bad of Junoon ... Junoon rocks :)
I`ve been visiting Chowk for quite some time now but this is the first time I feel compelled to participate in a discussion ...
Its interesting that the author has the heart to nominate ten songs as his favourites !! I mean I, for one, would never be able to decide which one to include or which to exclude !!! How can one include `Insha jee utho` by Ustad Amanat Ali Khan and forget about `Honton pay kabhi` by the same singer ... Plus talkin` of Lata or Kishore or Rafi, it would be hard enough selecting their respective best ten songs, rather than selecting one from each singer ...
One more thing in the discussion which kinda disappointed me was that there`s no mention of Tina Sani ... I mean her `Bol kay lab azad hain teray`, `Bahar aai`, `Gar tujhay is ka yaqeen ho`, `Ae Masjid-e-Qartaba`, etc. etc. are my all time favourites !!!
And hey, nobody talks bad of Junoon ... Junoon rocks :)
#39 Posted by semipreciousme on August 28, 2001 2:58:46 am
stuka,
``Also, and yes this is bringing in a populist touch to a hitherto elitist discussion, who can forget Nazia Hassan?``
....not i. who can forget aap jaisa koi? i think her disco deewane still holds the record for the best selling album in south asia
``Currently, I like the guy who sang Billo dey Ghar, Abrar.``
....yeah, he`s pretty big in pakistan, and with an ego to match
``He`s more earthy and son of the soil type than Junoon shunoon``
......here i must disagree:) i quite like junoon shunoon....it was their music which introduced me to sufiyana kalam
``Also, and yes this is bringing in a populist touch to a hitherto elitist discussion, who can forget Nazia Hassan?``
....not i. who can forget aap jaisa koi? i think her disco deewane still holds the record for the best selling album in south asia
``Currently, I like the guy who sang Billo dey Ghar, Abrar.``
....yeah, he`s pretty big in pakistan, and with an ego to match
``He`s more earthy and son of the soil type than Junoon shunoon``
......here i must disagree:) i quite like junoon shunoon....it was their music which introduced me to sufiyana kalam
#38 Posted by Romair on August 28, 2001 1:08:27 am
One way to rank the worth of a singer is how much one would pay to buy his/her recordings and/or go to his/her concert. Top ten South Asian singers (Urdu/Punjabi; only two languages I understand), still singing, I would pay the most money to see/hear (not in any order):
-Daler Mendhi (the ex-Silicon Valley cab driver parties like no one else. He also sang a version of umran langiyan)
-Lucky Ali (just found out he is Mahmood`s son; his socially conscious songs are a treat; the Dave Mathews of South Asia or vice versa)
-Jagjit Singh (Kaghaz ki kashti and Chodween ki raat are the two best geets ever sung)
-Pankaj Udhas (the best and most entertaining combination of ghazals mixed with geets)
- Ghulam Ali (the most melodious ghazal voice in South Asia; meray shauq da naeen aitebar tainu is the best punjabi ghazal of all time)
- Attaullah Niazi Esa Khelwi (the most popular punjabi (Mianwali style) singer, by far, on the stereos of Pakistani buses; Dard ka safeer (Ambassador of sorrow); actually starts crying while singing; his orchestra`s flute player is the best; Balo Battian is a classic; made a pilgrimage to his village of Esa Khel, next to Mianwali, once to pay respects)
- Asha Bosle (the second best female voice in South Asia, next to Lata. Lata has not crossed over to the new stuff like Asha, however. And Lata`s concerts are quite boring. Asha is more entertaining)
- Janice Miller (An American singer, who doesn`t speak Urdu, but can sing Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, Saraki etc. songs like an expert)
- Sabri Qawwal (Easily the best traditional qawwali singers of all time. I believe one of the brothers has passed away, however.)
- Abida Parveen (Bhulay Shah is my favorite. And no one sings him like Abida.)
-Daler Mendhi (the ex-Silicon Valley cab driver parties like no one else. He also sang a version of umran langiyan)
-Lucky Ali (just found out he is Mahmood`s son; his socially conscious songs are a treat; the Dave Mathews of South Asia or vice versa)
-Jagjit Singh (Kaghaz ki kashti and Chodween ki raat are the two best geets ever sung)
-Pankaj Udhas (the best and most entertaining combination of ghazals mixed with geets)
- Ghulam Ali (the most melodious ghazal voice in South Asia; meray shauq da naeen aitebar tainu is the best punjabi ghazal of all time)
- Attaullah Niazi Esa Khelwi (the most popular punjabi (Mianwali style) singer, by far, on the stereos of Pakistani buses; Dard ka safeer (Ambassador of sorrow); actually starts crying while singing; his orchestra`s flute player is the best; Balo Battian is a classic; made a pilgrimage to his village of Esa Khel, next to Mianwali, once to pay respects)
- Asha Bosle (the second best female voice in South Asia, next to Lata. Lata has not crossed over to the new stuff like Asha, however. And Lata`s concerts are quite boring. Asha is more entertaining)
- Janice Miller (An American singer, who doesn`t speak Urdu, but can sing Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, Saraki etc. songs like an expert)
- Sabri Qawwal (Easily the best traditional qawwali singers of all time. I believe one of the brothers has passed away, however.)
- Abida Parveen (Bhulay Shah is my favorite. And no one sings him like Abida.)
#37 Posted by soysauce on August 28, 2001 1:08:27 am
same old, same old...
It`s mostly north ``indian`` and filmi music.
If i ever made a list, Veena Sahasrabuddhe would top it. She has a haunting, beautiful voice and i don`t normally care for female singers (she is the only indian female in my collection).
It`s mostly north ``indian`` and filmi music.
If i ever made a list, Veena Sahasrabuddhe would top it. She has a haunting, beautiful voice and i don`t normally care for female singers (she is the only indian female in my collection).
#36 Posted by SameerJB on August 28, 2001 1:08:27 am
Stuka #26: I liked your post about no junoon shunoon here. I also like Abrar Ahmed. He is young and hopefully around for many many years. Both of his albums were super hits, Billo and Beh ja saikal te, maiN talliaN wjanda jaun. Shazia Manzoor is another one to keep an eye on. She has already sang some of the famous oldies and some new ones. By the way, Abrar was a student at my Alma mater, Quaid-e-Azam University, Islamabad before hitting big. I do not think he is from Pind Dadan Khan or Bhaun-hehehe
DullaBhatti: You selection is impressive. Nobody has done what Surjit Kaur/ Parkash Kaur did for Punjabi music. The people in the villages still listen to their cassettes more than modern ones. What about Sui we sui and Kala doria kunde naal.....they are great. Another good song is Chan kithaN guzari aei raat ve by Ata-Ullah Khan. What can I say about Hans Raj Hans. He is probably the best Punjabi singer right now.
dost-mittar #29: Let me use my trump card here against all of your selection. It is Munir Niazi`s ghazal-Us bewafa ka shehr hey aur hum haiN dosto. Listen to this, not by Musarrat Nazir but Munawwar Sultana??? It is Us and not US, otherwise F_K will be posting his usual bewafa US and west stuff.
Other gem:
1. Jagjit Singh-Loh-e-mazar thee na koi saugawar tha
2. Ghulam Ali-Mere shauq da naeeN ehtabar tenuN-Ghalib`s punjabi translation by Ghulam???
3. Ustad Amanat Ali Khan-HontuN pe kabhi unke mera naam he aaye-Ada jafri
4. Habib Wali Mohammed-Na kisi kee aankh ka noor huN and aey nigar-e-watan tu salamat rahey
5. Geeta Dutt-Ae dil mujhe bata de tu kiss pe aa gaya hey
6. Surriya-just forgot???
7. Najma-Aadmi ko bhi muyassir naheeN insaN hona-Ghalib
8. Talat Mahmood-Tum ko fursat ho meri jaan to idhar dekh to lo.
Do you remember that famous qawwali by Lata/ Asha and Shamshad Begum? Was it na to karvan kee talash hey?
Shima: Parosan is my all time favorite movie also. I love watching Mahmood playing Tamil music teacher. Yup! ik chatur naar kar ke singhar....By the way his son, Lucky Ali is into singing and doing fine.
DullaBhatti: You selection is impressive. Nobody has done what Surjit Kaur/ Parkash Kaur did for Punjabi music. The people in the villages still listen to their cassettes more than modern ones. What about Sui we sui and Kala doria kunde naal.....they are great. Another good song is Chan kithaN guzari aei raat ve by Ata-Ullah Khan. What can I say about Hans Raj Hans. He is probably the best Punjabi singer right now.
dost-mittar #29: Let me use my trump card here against all of your selection. It is Munir Niazi`s ghazal-Us bewafa ka shehr hey aur hum haiN dosto. Listen to this, not by Musarrat Nazir but Munawwar Sultana??? It is Us and not US, otherwise F_K will be posting his usual bewafa US and west stuff.
Other gem:
1. Jagjit Singh-Loh-e-mazar thee na koi saugawar tha
2. Ghulam Ali-Mere shauq da naeeN ehtabar tenuN-Ghalib`s punjabi translation by Ghulam???
3. Ustad Amanat Ali Khan-HontuN pe kabhi unke mera naam he aaye-Ada jafri
4. Habib Wali Mohammed-Na kisi kee aankh ka noor huN and aey nigar-e-watan tu salamat rahey
5. Geeta Dutt-Ae dil mujhe bata de tu kiss pe aa gaya hey
6. Surriya-just forgot???
7. Najma-Aadmi ko bhi muyassir naheeN insaN hona-Ghalib
8. Talat Mahmood-Tum ko fursat ho meri jaan to idhar dekh to lo.
Do you remember that famous qawwali by Lata/ Asha and Shamshad Begum? Was it na to karvan kee talash hey?
Shima: Parosan is my all time favorite movie also. I love watching Mahmood playing Tamil music teacher. Yup! ik chatur naar kar ke singhar....By the way his son, Lucky Ali is into singing and doing fine.
#35 Posted by ZafarA on August 27, 2001 11:15:29 pm
Reply Neptune #27
“No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!”
Ki? Ami bourgeoise? Tumi ki SHAMELESS Neptunedada! Now Tagore, yes, Tagore was a bourgeoise (floating up and down the Hooghly in a barge doing hushti nushti ont he way to his baganbari) but the people`s struggle is (as should be obvious) well represented on Chowk...
“No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!”
Ki? Ami bourgeoise? Tumi ki SHAMELESS Neptunedada! Now Tagore, yes, Tagore was a bourgeoise (floating up and down the Hooghly in a barge doing hushti nushti ont he way to his baganbari) but the people`s struggle is (as should be obvious) well represented on Chowk...
#34 Posted by saminashah on August 27, 2001 11:15:29 pm
dost mittar,
among all the greats, it was nice to see your vote for Zakir Hussein!
among all the greats, it was nice to see your vote for Zakir Hussein!
#33 Posted by dullabhatti on August 27, 2001 11:15:29 pm
When I was a young boy the song ``mummi ne meri tujhe chai pe bulayea hai`` sounded the best song...my heart used to start beating like crazy at the imagination of the possibilities on the chai table...(talk about being a paindoo!huh)...but after the ``chai pe bulayea`` incident happened in real life...I think it was a rip off.(I mean the song, not the chai wale hosts:-)).
I love the Punjabi folk tales and Sufi music in general. Everything else I like few days and then forget like it does not even exist. Here is my list without which life won`t be worth living.
1. NFAK: Sultan Bahu and Mian Mohammad Bakhash`s kalam.(30 min each).
2. Pathane Khan: mayeiN ni main kehnu aakhaN, dard wichoRay da haal.
3. Puran Shahkoti: saiyeO ni asiN nainaN de aakhay laggay
4. Alam Lohar: Mirza (Jatta putter moye nai bhulde, bhaweiN hoke marn faqeer...wah that just kills me)
5. Shazia Mansoor: saRkay saRkay jandiye mutiaare ni, kanDa chuba tere pair bankiye naaray ne.
6. Surinder Kaur: aa vas mandRay koll, dhol sipahiaRa...(Ghulam Farid`s kalam)
7. Hans Raj Hans: sanu tere shehar diyaN paiNDeyaN ne kha liya
8. Parkash Kaur: jutti kasoori pairee na poori haye Rabba ve sanu turna piya
9. Assad Amanat Ali: UmmeraN langhiyaN pabhaN bhaar.
10. bol mitti diya baweya (many diff singers)
I love the Punjabi folk tales and Sufi music in general. Everything else I like few days and then forget like it does not even exist. Here is my list without which life won`t be worth living.
1. NFAK: Sultan Bahu and Mian Mohammad Bakhash`s kalam.(30 min each).
2. Pathane Khan: mayeiN ni main kehnu aakhaN, dard wichoRay da haal.
3. Puran Shahkoti: saiyeO ni asiN nainaN de aakhay laggay
4. Alam Lohar: Mirza (Jatta putter moye nai bhulde, bhaweiN hoke marn faqeer...wah that just kills me)
5. Shazia Mansoor: saRkay saRkay jandiye mutiaare ni, kanDa chuba tere pair bankiye naaray ne.
6. Surinder Kaur: aa vas mandRay koll, dhol sipahiaRa...(Ghulam Farid`s kalam)
7. Hans Raj Hans: sanu tere shehar diyaN paiNDeyaN ne kha liya
8. Parkash Kaur: jutti kasoori pairee na poori haye Rabba ve sanu turna piya
9. Assad Amanat Ali: UmmeraN langhiyaN pabhaN bhaar.
10. bol mitti diya baweya (many diff singers)
#30 Posted by Neptune on August 27, 2001 6:12:45 pm
Whaat?????
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
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