A J Nabi August 25, 2001
#182 Posted by scout on September 6, 2001 9:42:22 pm
tahmed321 ji #181,
showoff :)
well i bought a fiona apple CD for a buck at a thrift shop some time ago, and it`s absolutely great.
showoff :)
well i bought a fiona apple CD for a buck at a thrift shop some time ago, and it`s absolutely great.
#181 Posted by Godot on September 6, 2001 5:53:27 pm
Re: nasah, #169
Thank you for making a plea for the heinous crime committed by the Pakistan Judicial System (if one calls it a ``Judicial`` system) against an innocent person. In my opinion, the ``judge`` who passed the sentenced should be hanged, not the accused Dr. Younis Shaikh.
All Pakistanis with a shred of civility and decency should hang their heads in shame for this crime committed in the name of religion and justice. Where`s the Chowk article discussing this? Where are the Chowk Interactors crying on this injustice?
Thank you for making a plea for the heinous crime committed by the Pakistan Judicial System (if one calls it a ``Judicial`` system) against an innocent person. In my opinion, the ``judge`` who passed the sentenced should be hanged, not the accused Dr. Younis Shaikh.
All Pakistanis with a shred of civility and decency should hang their heads in shame for this crime committed in the name of religion and justice. Where`s the Chowk article discussing this? Where are the Chowk Interactors crying on this injustice?
#180 Posted by stuka on September 6, 2001 5:53:27 pm
Bhai, everyone here is way too culture for me. Hmmm, let me muddy the water here a bit.
Anyone remember Hassan Jahangir of Hawa Hawa fame?
What happened to him? Was he the Rick Springfield of Pakistan? That despicable species ``the 80s Pop Star``
Anyone remember Hassan Jahangir of Hawa Hawa fame?
What happened to him? Was he the Rick Springfield of Pakistan? That despicable species ``the 80s Pop Star``
#179 Posted by tahmed321 on September 6, 2001 10:35:53 am
This is what I found in a small shop in Rawalpindi Sadar on my recent trip to Pakistan: A set of 15 CDs of Lata Mangeshkar. For Rs. 90 each. Great quality. I understand even this is a small fraction of the over 3,000 songs that the Great Lata has recorded, but (as the shopkeeper assured me) the 15 CDs are among her finest songs and that there were no duplicates. More important, on these CDs I came across songs I had not heard in decades.
#178 Posted by aicha on September 6, 2001 10:35:53 am
Aamir - Thankyou for pointing out the subtleties. Now, is a person indeed bankrupt if s/he has only work to look fwd to, is a person known only by the company he keeps, is the health of a household really determined by the amt of garbage thrown out? Cant say for sure !!
Re the rest - sounds good to me and only one, more for sentimental reasons tahn any other.
aicha
Re the rest - sounds good to me and only one, more for sentimental reasons tahn any other.
aicha
#177 Posted by Eklavya on September 6, 2001 2:35:04 am
re: narain # 176
Would you have some more details on this set? What is it called, and how can someone in the U. S. of A. get it?
Thanks, Guruvar.
Would you have some more details on this set? What is it called, and how can someone in the U. S. of A. get it?
Thanks, Guruvar.
#176 Posted by ShirinAhmed on September 6, 2001 2:35:04 am
Temporal # 172,
Thank you ! magar yeh tou apney aik pooorey din ka nuskha likh diya ![LOL] will get back with the post mortem findings !
Roman English versions will be greatly appreciated if anyone can post them please!
love,
sa:)
Thank you ! magar yeh tou apney aik pooorey din ka nuskha likh diya ![LOL] will get back with the post mortem findings !
Roman English versions will be greatly appreciated if anyone can post them please!
love,
sa:)
#175 Posted by aicha on September 5, 2001 10:08:43 pm
Aamir
Me neither, but job satisfaction is extremely rare and if ever you do find it - being a workaholic isnt so bad. Am glad we are on the same wavelength here mugar I cant let sleepign dogs lie - so ag my better judgement - all this mutual agreement is actually getting a bit disagreeable - what gives ??
aicha
Me neither, but job satisfaction is extremely rare and if ever you do find it - being a workaholic isnt so bad. Am glad we are on the same wavelength here mugar I cant let sleepign dogs lie - so ag my better judgement - all this mutual agreement is actually getting a bit disagreeable - what gives ??
aicha
#174 Posted by narain on September 5, 2001 10:08:43 pm
ref: Nasah #121
``Unfortunately there is such a paucity of music teaching tapes and CDs from the subcontinent.``
Actually there is a very nice 14 CD set brought out by the Pondicherry Ashram, which is a must for any student of Indian classical music. They outline the philosophy, techniques and tools of music. They also have a section where they highlight the major ragas: their character, timing, characteristic movements and then demonstrate this by a famous rendition.
-narain
``Unfortunately there is such a paucity of music teaching tapes and CDs from the subcontinent.``
Actually there is a very nice 14 CD set brought out by the Pondicherry Ashram, which is a must for any student of Indian classical music. They outline the philosophy, techniques and tools of music. They also have a section where they highlight the major ragas: their character, timing, characteristic movements and then demonstrate this by a famous rendition.
-narain
#173 Posted by narain on September 5, 2001 10:08:43 pm
Wow! A discussion on classical music, my passion, and I missed it.
Regarding new stars on the Classical music horizon, here`s my pick.
1. Ulhas Kashalkar: he`s from Bombay, and his technique and voice are both excellent. There is a recording of Raga Basant by him in the ``Tarana`` series brought out by music India, which I think is one of the most beautiful renditions I have heard recently.
2. Rahid Khan: grandson of Ustad Nisar Hussain Khan Sahib of the Rampur-Saheswan Gharana. He has a mellifluous voice and complete mastery which is rare in young singers. I have a CD called ``evening Serenity`` where he has sung a great ``saraswati``.
3. Arati Ankelikar-Tikekar: among the best up and coming women singers. Her voice is great and she sings with such effortlessness that its a pleasure to hear her. Raag Rang brought out a cassette where she sings ``salag warali`` a rare morning raag. Its a treat to hear.
4. Shruti Sadolikar: again her voice has something so sombre and grand, and her singing is so flawless that she ranks among my favorites.
I don`t know why, but almost all of the best new talent seems to be coming from Bombay. That city has all the other centres completely eclipsed.
And oh, somebody was asking about that grand and stately form, Dhrupad. The Dagar brothers are of course closely associated with it. But I think the hnour of making it more accessible and appealing rests with the Gundecha brothers. They are relatively young, and sound like it too, But they have made Dhrupad much more listenable. They have an excellent recording called ``traditions`` out. One of my favorites in it is the Kabir Bhajan in raag Charukeshi.
-narain
Regarding new stars on the Classical music horizon, here`s my pick.
1. Ulhas Kashalkar: he`s from Bombay, and his technique and voice are both excellent. There is a recording of Raga Basant by him in the ``Tarana`` series brought out by music India, which I think is one of the most beautiful renditions I have heard recently.
2. Rahid Khan: grandson of Ustad Nisar Hussain Khan Sahib of the Rampur-Saheswan Gharana. He has a mellifluous voice and complete mastery which is rare in young singers. I have a CD called ``evening Serenity`` where he has sung a great ``saraswati``.
3. Arati Ankelikar-Tikekar: among the best up and coming women singers. Her voice is great and she sings with such effortlessness that its a pleasure to hear her. Raag Rang brought out a cassette where she sings ``salag warali`` a rare morning raag. Its a treat to hear.
4. Shruti Sadolikar: again her voice has something so sombre and grand, and her singing is so flawless that she ranks among my favorites.
I don`t know why, but almost all of the best new talent seems to be coming from Bombay. That city has all the other centres completely eclipsed.
And oh, somebody was asking about that grand and stately form, Dhrupad. The Dagar brothers are of course closely associated with it. But I think the hnour of making it more accessible and appealing rests with the Gundecha brothers. They are relatively young, and sound like it too, But they have made Dhrupad much more listenable. They have an excellent recording called ``traditions`` out. One of my favorites in it is the Kabir Bhajan in raag Charukeshi.
-narain
#172 Posted by Eklavya on September 5, 2001 3:42:16 pm
re: nasah # 161
Thank you for asking. I am doing just fine now...I can walk with fair degree of comfort, and have joined work. Ofcourse, it will be a while before I recover my full strength but I am getting there quickly. With such a wonderful group of people wishing me well, how could I not? :)
Best regards,
EK
Thank you for asking. I am doing just fine now...I can walk with fair degree of comfort, and have joined work. Ofcourse, it will be a while before I recover my full strength but I am getting there quickly. With such a wonderful group of people wishing me well, how could I not? :)
Best regards,
EK
#171 Posted by temporal on September 5, 2001 10:50:57 am
Shirin Ahmed #162:
...now you will have to cancel the next few appointments...do some good homework on these sites and come back to us with your findings:)
Nita Awatramani’s labour of love
http://www.urdupoetry.com
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1442/poet_indx.html
http://www.mindspring.com/
...now you will have to cancel the next few appointments...do some good homework on these sites and come back to us with your findings:)
Nita Awatramani’s labour of love
http://www.urdupoetry.com
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1442/poet_indx.html
http://www.mindspring.com/
#170 Posted by nasah on September 5, 2001 10:07:33 am
RSaxena
``Dr. Younis Shaikh, a teacher at a medical college in Islamabad and founder and president of Enlightenment, the Pakistani-based International Humanist and Ethical Union member organization, was sentenced to death for blasphemy by a court in Pakistan on August 18. He has one week to appeal this sentence. (See the New York Times International section Aug. 20, 2001).
Dr. Shaikh was arrested on October 4, 2000, by Islamabad police for allegedly saying that the Prophet Mohammed did not become Muslim until the age of 40 (which was when he received his first revelation) and that his parents were non-Muslims (as they died before Islam was proposed by the Prophet). According to the report in the NYT, ``The Movement for the Finality of the Prophet, well known for pursuing blasphemers, filed a criminal complaint and sent a mob to the college and the local police station, threatening to set them on fire.``
Hundreds of people have been convicted of blasphemy in Pakistan, among them moderate Muslims, Christians and members of other religious minorities. The law they are prosecuted under is extremely ill defined. Frequently, people don`t know beforehand that they are committing an offence. While we do not know if Dr. Shaikh will face execution in the short time allowed for his appeal or whether he will languish in jail, we do know that we must mobilize immediately to bring this travesty to the attention of the world community.
YOUR HELP is urgently needed to bring political pressure to bear on Pakistan to stop the death sentence from being carried out. Protests are being planned in London and Oslo.
PLEASE ACT NOW:
1. If you live in the U.S., please contact the U.S. State Department by calling Sec. Colin Powell at (202) 647-4000 or email him at secretary@state.gov.
2. Contact the President of the United States by calling (202) 456-1414 or email him at president@whitehouse.gov.
3. Contact your U.S. Senators and ask them to contact the State Department to bring pressure to bear.
4. Contact Ambassador Dr. Maleeha Lodhi at the Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in Washington, D.C. at (202) 939-6200 or email her at parepwashington@erols.com.
If you live outside the U.S., please contact the appropriate government agency to call this matter to their attention or see www.iheu.org for further information.``
``Dr. Younis Shaikh, a teacher at a medical college in Islamabad and founder and president of Enlightenment, the Pakistani-based International Humanist and Ethical Union member organization, was sentenced to death for blasphemy by a court in Pakistan on August 18. He has one week to appeal this sentence. (See the New York Times International section Aug. 20, 2001).
Dr. Shaikh was arrested on October 4, 2000, by Islamabad police for allegedly saying that the Prophet Mohammed did not become Muslim until the age of 40 (which was when he received his first revelation) and that his parents were non-Muslims (as they died before Islam was proposed by the Prophet). According to the report in the NYT, ``The Movement for the Finality of the Prophet, well known for pursuing blasphemers, filed a criminal complaint and sent a mob to the college and the local police station, threatening to set them on fire.``
Hundreds of people have been convicted of blasphemy in Pakistan, among them moderate Muslims, Christians and members of other religious minorities. The law they are prosecuted under is extremely ill defined. Frequently, people don`t know beforehand that they are committing an offence. While we do not know if Dr. Shaikh will face execution in the short time allowed for his appeal or whether he will languish in jail, we do know that we must mobilize immediately to bring this travesty to the attention of the world community.
YOUR HELP is urgently needed to bring political pressure to bear on Pakistan to stop the death sentence from being carried out. Protests are being planned in London and Oslo.
PLEASE ACT NOW:
1. If you live in the U.S., please contact the U.S. State Department by calling Sec. Colin Powell at (202) 647-4000 or email him at secretary@state.gov.
2. Contact the President of the United States by calling (202) 456-1414 or email him at president@whitehouse.gov.
3. Contact your U.S. Senators and ask them to contact the State Department to bring pressure to bear.
4. Contact Ambassador Dr. Maleeha Lodhi at the Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in Washington, D.C. at (202) 939-6200 or email her at parepwashington@erols.com.
If you live outside the U.S., please contact the appropriate government agency to call this matter to their attention or see www.iheu.org for further information.``
#169 Posted by aicha on September 5, 2001 10:07:33 am
Aamir - ``Although that was my highest record ,sort of bragging rights``
thought as much - but everyone is entitled to do so - a bit!
``No im no where overworked or tired ever by work alone``
You are v lucky to feel that way. But I guess not everyone can count on that happening. I have always felt in the eventuality of ones personal life tanking - they should have work to fall
back on.
Shima & MFarooqui & Rsridhar - My father would do the same - tape each episode religiously. Loved it! I believe Gordon Banks is nomore. He passed away in some freak accident. After taht the series
died a natural death. Mrs Bucket (Routledge -i think) is hilarious too!! There were some others taht were superb too - Open all Hours, Mind your language are some taht come to mind (courtesy my father again) - anyone seen those??
aicha
thought as much - but everyone is entitled to do so - a bit!
``No im no where overworked or tired ever by work alone``
You are v lucky to feel that way. But I guess not everyone can count on that happening. I have always felt in the eventuality of ones personal life tanking - they should have work to fall
back on.
Shima & MFarooqui & Rsridhar - My father would do the same - tape each episode religiously. Loved it! I believe Gordon Banks is nomore. He passed away in some freak accident. After taht the series
died a natural death. Mrs Bucket (Routledge -i think) is hilarious too!! There were some others taht were superb too - Open all Hours, Mind your language are some taht come to mind (courtesy my father again) - anyone seen those??
aicha
#167 Posted by tantralogician on September 5, 2001 10:07:33 am
Reply to #165
rozaiba asks: ``Some classical pieces:- Kishori Amonkar What is the name of ‘style’ Kishori Amonkar sings in??``
The school she nominally comes from goes by the name Atrauli-Jaipur, after its founder Alladiya Khan (the world has seen v v few the likes of him) whose family originally came from Atrauli and later settled in Uniyara near Jaipur. However, Kishori Amonkar is no liege to blind tradition
and has developed a style that builds on her Atrauli-Jaipur background (inherited from her recently-deceased mother, Mogubai Kurdikar, among the greatest vocalists of the 20th C) and extends it by injecting `romantic` elements from other
styles.
tantralogician
rozaiba asks: ``Some classical pieces:- Kishori Amonkar What is the name of ‘style’ Kishori Amonkar sings in??``
The school she nominally comes from goes by the name Atrauli-Jaipur, after its founder Alladiya Khan (the world has seen v v few the likes of him) whose family originally came from Atrauli and later settled in Uniyara near Jaipur. However, Kishori Amonkar is no liege to blind tradition
and has developed a style that builds on her Atrauli-Jaipur background (inherited from her recently-deceased mother, Mogubai Kurdikar, among the greatest vocalists of the 20th C) and extends it by injecting `romantic` elements from other
styles.
tantralogician
#166 Posted by Shima on September 5, 2001 2:25:18 am
Aicha, we were in Europe for few years where British sit-coms are quite popular. My most favorite was ``Keeping up Appearances``...Now ``Golden Girls`` will fail thousand times to the acting of Ms. Patricia Rouletge? (I forgot her last name).
You are right about US sit coms, although I like the old ones like Mary Tyler Moore, Dick Van Dyke, and I love Lucy, and Sienfeld would be one of the new ones.
Sridhar: ``Allo Allo`` was classic, based on the second world war backdrop, it was about a French Restauranter who helped the German Resistance by providing assistance to British Army and French civilians. The main character, Rene played by Gordon Banks?(anybody at Chowk) was just superb.
Again, sorry for the digression, but still we are talking about art, isn`t it?
Dost-Mittarji, I knew I was in wrong board about Rajinder Krishan, but you responded to Sadna in that board, so I also started, :) but the point was about Raja Mehendi Ali Khan.......
You are right about US sit coms, although I like the old ones like Mary Tyler Moore, Dick Van Dyke, and I love Lucy, and Sienfeld would be one of the new ones.
Sridhar: ``Allo Allo`` was classic, based on the second world war backdrop, it was about a French Restauranter who helped the German Resistance by providing assistance to British Army and French civilians. The main character, Rene played by Gordon Banks?(anybody at Chowk) was just superb.
Again, sorry for the digression, but still we are talking about art, isn`t it?
Dost-Mittarji, I knew I was in wrong board about Rajinder Krishan, but you responded to Sadna in that board, so I also started, :) but the point was about Raja Mehendi Ali Khan.......
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