A J Nabi August 25, 2001
#18 Posted by SameerJB on August 27, 2001 2:56:54 am
dost-mittar #14: Here are some gems which come to my mind, not in any particular order:
1. Pathana Khan-AsaN talub sayeeN de naam dee
2. Alam Lohar-Ley tuN wekh jadola bar da-Mirza SahibaaN
3. ReshmaN-Heer aakhdi jogya jhoot bolaiN-Heer
4. Bare Ghulam Ali Khan-SayyaN gaye Pardes-Dadra
6. Noor Jehan-Mujh se pehli si mohabbat-Faiz
7. Mehdi Hassan-Dekh to dil ke jaaN se-Mir
8. Malika Pukhraj-Abhi to maiN jawan hoon-Hafeez
9. Shamshad Begum-Bare mushkil se dil kee beqarari
10.Lata-Bachpan kee mohabbat ko dil se na juda karna
11. Kishore Kumar-chingari koi bharhke and pal pal dil ke pass
12. Manna Dey-Yeh hichkee sharab kee naheeN hey dosto
13. Pradeep Kumar-Pinjrey ke panchee rey
14. Dilshad Akhtar-Dil wich wasna aeN, rehnaN haiN akhian tuN dur wey
15. Malkit Singh-Jugni
16. Nusrat F. A. Khan-Rabba lakh lakh shukr manawaN, je kadi mera yaar mil jaye
1. Pathana Khan-AsaN talub sayeeN de naam dee
2. Alam Lohar-Ley tuN wekh jadola bar da-Mirza SahibaaN
3. ReshmaN-Heer aakhdi jogya jhoot bolaiN-Heer
4. Bare Ghulam Ali Khan-SayyaN gaye Pardes-Dadra
6. Noor Jehan-Mujh se pehli si mohabbat-Faiz
7. Mehdi Hassan-Dekh to dil ke jaaN se-Mir
8. Malika Pukhraj-Abhi to maiN jawan hoon-Hafeez
9. Shamshad Begum-Bare mushkil se dil kee beqarari
10.Lata-Bachpan kee mohabbat ko dil se na juda karna
11. Kishore Kumar-chingari koi bharhke and pal pal dil ke pass
12. Manna Dey-Yeh hichkee sharab kee naheeN hey dosto
13. Pradeep Kumar-Pinjrey ke panchee rey
14. Dilshad Akhtar-Dil wich wasna aeN, rehnaN haiN akhian tuN dur wey
15. Malkit Singh-Jugni
16. Nusrat F. A. Khan-Rabba lakh lakh shukr manawaN, je kadi mera yaar mil jaye
#19 Posted by semipreciousme on August 27, 2001 2:56:54 am
Ras Siddiqui,
``Anyway for a quick input here:
1) ``Mujh Say Pehli Si Mohabbat``: Madam Noor Jahan
2) ``Allah Hoo``: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan``
........now that`s music to my ears:)
``Anyway for a quick input here:
1) ``Mujh Say Pehli Si Mohabbat``: Madam Noor Jahan
2) ``Allah Hoo``: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan``
........now that`s music to my ears:)
#20 Posted by semipreciousme on August 27, 2001 2:56:54 am
aj nabi,
whatever happened to the shah of chicago?
whatever happened to the shah of chicago?
#21 Posted by HN on August 27, 2001 2:56:54 am
A pleasant collection. I liked the piece very much too. Can I add to Ras` concern for The Shah of Chicago.
Some of the pieces are so difficult to get hold of. Your Kishore song...have not heard of that. Can you give some more details...of that song.
Little to add on music though. Wonder if Sameer and others here can give me some explanation of this particular concern of mine. As far as film music is concerned...i have felt that i relate to the lyrics more than the music. That might be the reason why i have not enjoyed a lot of western music.
Any insights...similar-dissimmilar experiences...
Some of the pieces are so difficult to get hold of. Your Kishore song...have not heard of that. Can you give some more details...of that song.
Little to add on music though. Wonder if Sameer and others here can give me some explanation of this particular concern of mine. As far as film music is concerned...i have felt that i relate to the lyrics more than the music. That might be the reason why i have not enjoyed a lot of western music.
Any insights...similar-dissimmilar experiences...
#22 Posted by Shima on August 27, 2001 2:56:54 am
Sameer, like any other matter you show extreme patience in music too. Well, I kind of like the songs which last for five minutes or so. While I also like Malika Pukhraj`s `` Abhi to main jawan hoo`` I like all the light oldies from Hindi movies along with the heavy ones. Some of them would be ``Ek chatur nar bare hoshiaar`` (Manna Dey and Kishore Kumar) from Parosan, ``Meri pyari Bindu, Meri Sinduri Bindu`` by KK from the same film, ``Hum Kale Haito Kya Hua Dilbale Hai`` by Rafi in Gumnam, ``Hum jindegi ki sath nivata chala gaya``, ``Dil ka bhamar kare pukar`` of Rafi.
Can go on forever, this is the most favorite topic of mine. While I work, musicIndia on-line is always at the back playing..... How I wish we exchanged gazal, not golis. Remember the song of Rafi set at Kashmir? ``Ai Phulo ki Rani, Baharo Ki malika, tera muskarana gazab ho gya``......Now the films are shot at New Zealand, Switzerland, Alaska... Does not feel the same.
Can go on forever, this is the most favorite topic of mine. While I work, musicIndia on-line is always at the back playing..... How I wish we exchanged gazal, not golis. Remember the song of Rafi set at Kashmir? ``Ai Phulo ki Rani, Baharo Ki malika, tera muskarana gazab ho gya``......Now the films are shot at New Zealand, Switzerland, Alaska... Does not feel the same.
#23 Posted by ZafarA on August 27, 2001 3:00:09 am
Hmmm....must go see if I can find some of those, since the ones I knew I liked.
But you left out MS Subulakshmi! Have you heard her? Her traditional carnatic style stuff is absolutely wonderful (do not accept her attempts at hindi bhajans, where her light unfortunately does not shine as it should).
But you left out MS Subulakshmi! Have you heard her? Her traditional carnatic style stuff is absolutely wonderful (do not accept her attempts at hindi bhajans, where her light unfortunately does not shine as it should).
#24 Posted by sadna on August 27, 2001 11:13:13 am
IMO, appreciation of music is like enjoying a flower garden or a sumptuous feast, in that the wide variety available enhances the special beauty of a few.
For instance, apart from the large variety available in Hindustani and Carnatic classical music, Begum Akhtar is just wonderful in `Woh jo hum me tum me qaraar thaa` and DV Paluskar in his bhajans, and Saigal in his `Baabul moraa naihar chooto`, and Yesudas in his Ayappa devotionals, etc but items like traditional folk music and `boondo`n se baathe`n` have their place too.
So I suggest you run with your whole collection :).
For instance, apart from the large variety available in Hindustani and Carnatic classical music, Begum Akhtar is just wonderful in `Woh jo hum me tum me qaraar thaa` and DV Paluskar in his bhajans, and Saigal in his `Baabul moraa naihar chooto`, and Yesudas in his Ayappa devotionals, etc but items like traditional folk music and `boondo`n se baathe`n` have their place too.
So I suggest you run with your whole collection :).
#25 Posted by MaheshG on August 27, 2001 12:21:06 pm
AJ NABI, is that really your name or is it just a moniker (ajnabi?)
I am confused you keep narrating your experiences in Peshawar and Rawalpindi and then you are nostalgic about your childhood in INDIA?
Anyway, are you going to put these songs up on some web-site to be downloaded? Maybe, on morpheus so all of us can share your tastes.
#26 Posted by monasehgal on August 27, 2001 12:21:06 pm
HN #20
Yes, I too enjoy the songs which has good lyrics to it. But they mostly belong to the melodious variety. For dance, excersice or just simple fun one needs more peppy music and there the lyrics dosn`t matter.
Besides Hindi/ Urdu songs their are some English songs as well with great lyrics like ``You fill up my sense``, ``Love Story``, ``Evergreen Tree`` and so may more.
But one must agree that even great lyrics with bad music just does not appeal.
Mona
Yes, I too enjoy the songs which has good lyrics to it. But they mostly belong to the melodious variety. For dance, excersice or just simple fun one needs more peppy music and there the lyrics dosn`t matter.
Besides Hindi/ Urdu songs their are some English songs as well with great lyrics like ``You fill up my sense``, ``Love Story``, ``Evergreen Tree`` and so may more.
But one must agree that even great lyrics with bad music just does not appeal.
Mona
#27 Posted by Banjaara on August 27, 2001 12:21:06 pm
South Asian music and no place for Ustaad Karim Khan, Ustaad Nazaakat Ali Khan,Salaamat Ali Khan,
Lalguddi Jayaraman,Amjad Ali Khan,Ustaad AliAkbar
Khan,Pandit Ravi Shankar,Pandit Hari Prasad Chaurasia,Ustaad Amir Khan,Ustaad Umrao Bundu Khan,Ustaad Sultan Khan,Parween Sultana,Roshan Aara Begum,Begum Akhtar,Girija Devi, Farida Khanum and Ustaad Allah Rakha.
Intrestingly,there were a few interactors with
Iqbal Bano and a single interactor for Bhimsen Joshi.Probably,its all a matter of taste and the
taste changes with the passage of time.
Regards.
Lalguddi Jayaraman,Amjad Ali Khan,Ustaad AliAkbar
Khan,Pandit Ravi Shankar,Pandit Hari Prasad Chaurasia,Ustaad Amir Khan,Ustaad Umrao Bundu Khan,Ustaad Sultan Khan,Parween Sultana,Roshan Aara Begum,Begum Akhtar,Girija Devi, Farida Khanum and Ustaad Allah Rakha.
Intrestingly,there were a few interactors with
Iqbal Bano and a single interactor for Bhimsen Joshi.Probably,its all a matter of taste and the
taste changes with the passage of time.
Regards.
#28 Posted by stuka on August 27, 2001 1:00:39 pm
Man people on Chowk have such classy tastes in music. I`m very impressed. I do know the song you refer to by Kishore Kumar, quite by accident ofcourse, and like it a lot.
My fav desi music is anything that involves Amitabh Bacchan. (I can feel the groans going around, but please bear with me). The Gen Xers of South Asia are kids of the 70s and 80s. Amitabh was king. Okay he was not a singer himself, but the songs he got in movies were great.
The one song I know he sang was in Mr Natwarlal. ``Challa ja raha tha....`` But also Silsila, Shaan, Sholay, Kaalia, Amar Akbar Anthony....all great movies with great songs.
Also, and yes this is bringing in a populist touch to a hitherto elitist discussion, who can forget Nazia Hassan? Currently, I like the guy who sang Billo dey Ghar, Abrar. He`s more earthy and son of the soil type than Junoon shunoon. Immitation being the sincerest form of flattery, Abrar should be very flattered from the response across the border from India.
P.S.: This is such a nice topic. A sincere request to all Chowkies (myself included) to please not bring Kashmir, religion, politics in this board. There are many other boards that can be soiled.
My fav desi music is anything that involves Amitabh Bacchan. (I can feel the groans going around, but please bear with me). The Gen Xers of South Asia are kids of the 70s and 80s. Amitabh was king. Okay he was not a singer himself, but the songs he got in movies were great.
The one song I know he sang was in Mr Natwarlal. ``Challa ja raha tha....`` But also Silsila, Shaan, Sholay, Kaalia, Amar Akbar Anthony....all great movies with great songs.
Also, and yes this is bringing in a populist touch to a hitherto elitist discussion, who can forget Nazia Hassan? Currently, I like the guy who sang Billo dey Ghar, Abrar. He`s more earthy and son of the soil type than Junoon shunoon. Immitation being the sincerest form of flattery, Abrar should be very flattered from the response across the border from India.
P.S.: This is such a nice topic. A sincere request to all Chowkies (myself included) to please not bring Kashmir, religion, politics in this board. There are many other boards that can be soiled.
#29 Posted by Neptune on August 27, 2001 6:12:45 pm
Whaat?????
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
#30 Posted by Neptune on August 27, 2001 6:12:45 pm
Whaat?????
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
No RabindraSangeet???!!?? All you bourgeoise!! Shame on you!
#33 Posted by dullabhatti on August 27, 2001 11:15:29 pm
When I was a young boy the song ``mummi ne meri tujhe chai pe bulayea hai`` sounded the best song...my heart used to start beating like crazy at the imagination of the possibilities on the chai table...(talk about being a paindoo!huh)...but after the ``chai pe bulayea`` incident happened in real life...I think it was a rip off.(I mean the song, not the chai wale hosts:-)).
I love the Punjabi folk tales and Sufi music in general. Everything else I like few days and then forget like it does not even exist. Here is my list without which life won`t be worth living.
1. NFAK: Sultan Bahu and Mian Mohammad Bakhash`s kalam.(30 min each).
2. Pathane Khan: mayeiN ni main kehnu aakhaN, dard wichoRay da haal.
3. Puran Shahkoti: saiyeO ni asiN nainaN de aakhay laggay
4. Alam Lohar: Mirza (Jatta putter moye nai bhulde, bhaweiN hoke marn faqeer...wah that just kills me)
5. Shazia Mansoor: saRkay saRkay jandiye mutiaare ni, kanDa chuba tere pair bankiye naaray ne.
6. Surinder Kaur: aa vas mandRay koll, dhol sipahiaRa...(Ghulam Farid`s kalam)
7. Hans Raj Hans: sanu tere shehar diyaN paiNDeyaN ne kha liya
8. Parkash Kaur: jutti kasoori pairee na poori haye Rabba ve sanu turna piya
9. Assad Amanat Ali: UmmeraN langhiyaN pabhaN bhaar.
10. bol mitti diya baweya (many diff singers)
I love the Punjabi folk tales and Sufi music in general. Everything else I like few days and then forget like it does not even exist. Here is my list without which life won`t be worth living.
1. NFAK: Sultan Bahu and Mian Mohammad Bakhash`s kalam.(30 min each).
2. Pathane Khan: mayeiN ni main kehnu aakhaN, dard wichoRay da haal.
3. Puran Shahkoti: saiyeO ni asiN nainaN de aakhay laggay
4. Alam Lohar: Mirza (Jatta putter moye nai bhulde, bhaweiN hoke marn faqeer...wah that just kills me)
5. Shazia Mansoor: saRkay saRkay jandiye mutiaare ni, kanDa chuba tere pair bankiye naaray ne.
6. Surinder Kaur: aa vas mandRay koll, dhol sipahiaRa...(Ghulam Farid`s kalam)
7. Hans Raj Hans: sanu tere shehar diyaN paiNDeyaN ne kha liya
8. Parkash Kaur: jutti kasoori pairee na poori haye Rabba ve sanu turna piya
9. Assad Amanat Ali: UmmeraN langhiyaN pabhaN bhaar.
10. bol mitti diya baweya (many diff singers)
#34 Posted by saminashah on August 27, 2001 11:15:29 pm
dost mittar,
among all the greats, it was nice to see your vote for Zakir Hussein!
among all the greats, it was nice to see your vote for Zakir Hussein!
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