Shahgul September 14, 2001
#26 Posted by Shima on September 15, 2001 1:09:21 am
If Osama is ``Man`` enough, why can`t he come out of his hiding and surrender himself? Afghans may be generous enough to protect him, why can`t he say ``enough is enough, I am not going to let these poor people suffer any more because of me``. He is like any other power hungry ruler who will drench his people to their last drop of blood. If he has already made so many followers in 2 dozens of muslim countries, his torch will be carried any way!!!
#25 Posted by stuka on September 15, 2001 1:09:21 am
YLH, Shahgul:
You guys are throwing the name of Mossad around. Is there any concrete source/ website or is it just a conspiracy theory you guys are cooking up?
You guys are throwing the name of Mossad around. Is there any concrete source/ website or is it just a conspiracy theory you guys are cooking up?
#24 Posted by ali1 on September 15, 2001 1:09:21 am
Dear Shahgul:
Not just Bin Laden, but ALL fatwa-baaz mullahs/Islamists are evil.
Biln Laden`s evil has killed innocent citizens in the US and Africa. Bin Baaz`s evil has strengthened the tyranny of house of Saud in the middle east and reduced Saudi women to 3rd rate citizens.
I hope that all Muslims are able to break free from the dangerous web of the Mullah/Islamist.
I also sincerely hope that your hubby doesn`t follow bin-baaz`s fatwas on treatment of muslim women and your kids don`t learn their science from the books of this learned scholar...... he believed that the earth was flat till the day he died.
Not just Bin Laden, but ALL fatwa-baaz mullahs/Islamists are evil.
Biln Laden`s evil has killed innocent citizens in the US and Africa. Bin Baaz`s evil has strengthened the tyranny of house of Saud in the middle east and reduced Saudi women to 3rd rate citizens.
I hope that all Muslims are able to break free from the dangerous web of the Mullah/Islamist.
I also sincerely hope that your hubby doesn`t follow bin-baaz`s fatwas on treatment of muslim women and your kids don`t learn their science from the books of this learned scholar...... he believed that the earth was flat till the day he died.
#23 Posted by scout on September 15, 2001 1:09:21 am
AAmir #23,
Don`t know how much of that report is true or not, but I`m sure there are some crazy people out there who are celebrating. The important part is that the number of people celebrating is miniscule, microscopic to the number of people mourning this great loss.
Don`t know how much of that report is true or not, but I`m sure there are some crazy people out there who are celebrating. The important part is that the number of people celebrating is miniscule, microscopic to the number of people mourning this great loss.
#22 Posted by narain on September 15, 2001 1:09:21 am
yeah, and sure the Mossad is involved, just like the Indian government regularly kills Hindus in Kashmir to malign the ``just`` fight of the militants there, and the moon is made of green cheese! Good luck trying to explain this to any rational person. :)
-narain
-narain
#21 Posted by Ali77 on September 15, 2001 12:24:44 am
I think EVERYONE is jumping the gun here. How can everyone hold someone guilty until proven innocent. How do we know that this is not a zionist conspiracy (which they have carried out on the USS Independence before) or even a CIA one (the possible JFK conspiracy).
The plan was executed too perfectly. And look at the hints left. A video tape of how to fly the plane. Arabic articles in the rent a book. Who in their right mind would bring those things with them in a rent-a-car before flying a suicidal mission. These are things left INTENTIONALLY for the investigators.
EVERYONE is JUMPING the gun here. I just dont buy that osama or ANY muslim state could have organised such a well planned mission.
The plan was executed too perfectly. And look at the hints left. A video tape of how to fly the plane. Arabic articles in the rent a book. Who in their right mind would bring those things with them in a rent-a-car before flying a suicidal mission. These are things left INTENTIONALLY for the investigators.
EVERYONE is JUMPING the gun here. I just dont buy that osama or ANY muslim state could have organised such a well planned mission.
#20 Posted by hamid_mukhtar on September 14, 2001 10:41:49 pm
Article written in the right spirit. I hope we can ask some of the questions from Osama.... I hope he realizes the damage that he is causing to Islam... Now he might not be responsible for some/most of this... but he needs to come out... declare his innocence and defend it.....
#19 Posted by scout on September 14, 2001 10:41:49 pm
Rdesikan #12, ``Waste of time while in the meanwhile, you have a whole bunch of your coreligionists who are celebrating the collapse of the WTC with dances and sweets.``
I thought you were smarter than that?
So the media decides to show a small group of psychologically impaired Palestinian people, and you turn them into ``a WHOLE BUNCH of your coreligionists?``
I thought you were smarter than that?
So the media decides to show a small group of psychologically impaired Palestinian people, and you turn them into ``a WHOLE BUNCH of your coreligionists?``
#18 Posted by Bhardwaj on September 14, 2001 9:39:47 pm
Subj: [AMUNetwork] List of injured issued by Indian consulate in NY
Date: 9/14/2001 1:24:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: rasheedahmad@hotmail.com
To: AMUNetwork@yahoogroups.com
List of injured issued by Indian consulate in NY
(India Abroad Web Edition, Sep 14, 2001)
The following is a partial list issued by the Consulate General of
India in New York of NRIs/PIOs admitted in the hospitals of New York
in the aftermath of the World Trade Center disaster.
(The nationality is not necessarily Indian)
St. Vincent`s Hospital
Naya Desai
Manu Dhingra
Badruddin Lakhani
John Malik
Willam Manas
Charles Mathew
Myloca Byas
Rajiv Nair
Mohd Ismail
Ms. Jasmine Singh
Badheeridin Lakhani
Ms. Neerja Desai
Sylvia Ramsunder
Manu Dhingra
Nandan Papasor
Small Mohammed
Beth Israel
Monica Manghani
Dipin Challani
Shana Bodhram
Cabrini
Mahan Chandu
Qazir Mohd.
St. Mary`s, New Jersey
Grogen Thomas
Krishnamurthy
Antree Mathew
Fernandes Thomas
Karri Kalpaha
Sajik Panchal
Telikepali Kalpana
NYU-ER
Pundi Venkatesh
Ms. Christine Acinapura
Ms. Rajkumari Singh
Ms. Jasmatia Pupharia
Hospital for Joint Diseases
Mahavir Sandra
Sofal Naik
Chelsea Hospital
Fredric Grover
Moor Hukum
Abdullah Shamsuddin
Cornell Hospital
Narayan Patel
Karium Ali
Marian Patel
NYU Hospital
Punti Venkateshan
Sunil Malik
Bellevue Hospital
Daniel Suhir
Roosevelt Hospital
Mano Hydesia
Katherine Ahmd
Amir Bahaduri
St. Luke Roosevelt
Abbas Mohd.
Parkway
Amita Ablakh
NSUH-Syosset, Long Island
Khannum Sultana
Consulate General of India: New York
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#17 Posted by Bijli on September 14, 2001 9:39:47 pm
#: 12
Rdesikan
YOu dont even make an attempt to hide your hate .The only difference between you & the terrorists is that you are helpless coward unable to carry out your fantasy.
Rdesikan
YOu dont even make an attempt to hide your hate .The only difference between you & the terrorists is that you are helpless coward unable to carry out your fantasy.
#16 Posted by Kiran- on September 14, 2001 8:49:09 pm
Shahgul: nice effort, though this could use some heavy editing: there`s too much repetition. Try to ignore those who will surely blow this out of proportion.
Karakoram: if you have nothing positive to say, how about just keeping your big mouth shut? Don`t go around insulting Islam. It`s hateful people like you, that are a stigma on humanity!
Karakoram: if you have nothing positive to say, how about just keeping your big mouth shut? Don`t go around insulting Islam. It`s hateful people like you, that are a stigma on humanity!
#15 Posted by Kiran- on September 14, 2001 8:49:09 pm
Shahgul: nice effort, though this could use some heavy editing: there`s too much repetition. Try to ignore those who will surely blow this out of proportion.
Karakoram: if you have nothing positive to say, how about just keeping your big mouth shut? Don`t go around insulting Islam. It`s hateful people like you, that are a stigma on humanity!
Karakoram: if you have nothing positive to say, how about just keeping your big mouth shut? Don`t go around insulting Islam. It`s hateful people like you, that are a stigma on humanity!
#14 Posted by AAmir on September 14, 2001 8:49:09 pm
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#13 Posted by ylh on September 14, 2001 8:49:09 pm
It is abundantly clear that Bin Laden`s network was used in these attacks... there cant be any controversey about that... however, there are increasing number of reports from groups like Stern`s Intelligence Canada etc that Israel`s Mossad was in some way involved in manipulation and perhaps funding of the effort...
Can someone comment on this development?
-YLH
PS Please dont slam me , I am known as a supporter and friend of Israel amongst people who know me.
Can someone comment on this development?
-YLH
PS Please dont slam me , I am known as a supporter and friend of Israel amongst people who know me.
#12 Posted by Rdesikan on September 14, 2001 8:49:09 pm
Oh yeah, he`s scanning the boards of chowk waiting for advice. he`s going to take notice and change his methods/strategy based on the profound wisdom imparted here. Waste of time while in the meanwhile, you have a whole bunch of your coreligionists who are celebrating the collapse of the WTC with dances and sweets. And while you`re at it, why don`t you write a letter to that pukeface stinky beard mullah omar?
#11 Posted by sadna on September 14, 2001 5:43:58 pm
Unless you find a way for the followers of the religious scholar you quote to undertake armed jehad and kill the religious scholar who advised Mr. bin Laden about HIS fatwa, there is just no reason why Mr Bin Laden should listen.
Even if such an attempt succeeded, he probably will not bother to give credence to these religious pronouncements, he will just plan a counter attack. This is the modus operandi of many elsewhere in the region in order to get the last word in a debate on religious principles.
Even if such an attempt succeeded, he probably will not bother to give credence to these religious pronouncements, he will just plan a counter attack. This is the modus operandi of many elsewhere in the region in order to get the last word in a debate on religious principles.
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