Open Letter to O. B. Laden

There no poiont talkig to mad lafanga. All highclass hotel busyness suffers due this mad man. He makes muslim look bad.

The Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa recommending feath for Salman Rushdie, because he wrote a book, and recommended that Muslims anywhere and in any way they can should carry out the sentence.

Is there a similar fatwa recommending that Muslims anywhere and in anyway they can should help in catching those responsible, whoever they may be, of the September 11 massacres ?

Or are there two different standards, one for those who offend Muslims, and one for those kill non-Muslims ?

-Arun Gupta

The second Pakistani Prophet?

Is it true that osama is now the second most common name for newborn male Pakistani children?

Long Live Jinnah, the reasonable.

News Item from Dawn: ``Taliban may attack neighbours helping US strike``. Ha! Ha! I am shaking with fear.

News Item from Dawn: ``Thousands of Afghans throng border...The Taliban officials have also strengthened their border security and their guards were baton-charging the crowed to push them back. `` I think Pakistan should take the Afghan guards out and open the borders to allow the Afghans to come to Pakistan if they seek security. Just make sure, none of the animals ruling Afghanistan sneak in with them.

romair,

[...i am all ears]

aah, so THAT was the problem all along! the missing thing is something in BETWEEN the ears. :O)

ok. about the network...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1544000/1544534.stm

...He has been described as a ``venture capitalist`` of Islamic extremism - running ``Jihad Inc`` and its subsidiary ``Jihad-Dot-Com``.

A group might come to him with a plan for which he might supply money - or he might put one group in touch with another - or he might come up with a plan of his own and find sub-contractors to carry it out...

. I was in bed in my apartment, which by the way is only two blocks from the Pentagon, when it was attacked. I pray that all of your friends and relatives who are in NY and DC are all safe.

For those of you interested here`s my account of the tragedy that happened yesterday.

I had a splitting headache because I couldn`t sleep all night, so I called into work at 9:20 to let them know that I would be in late. I relaxed back into bed but then at 9:38 am my eyes popped wide open...something was terribly wrong...I felt tremors laying in bed...my entire apartment shook...my heart pounding as I got out of bed. Perplexed and disoriented from my headache I opened the blinds to my sliding glass door, the sun shone in and I saw what appeared to be dust particles out in the air. I thought nothing of it really...I just figured it was debris from the construction on the apartment going up next door.

So I reached for the remote control to my TV, when my telephone rang...my mother sounded panicked on the phone...`` * * * * * * *...have you heard what happened? They hit the Pentagon, they hit the Pentagon!...`` She was worried that something may have happened to me, after all I live so close. I reassured her that I was fine...but should really rush to work. Just then I heard sirens...ambulance, fire and police all right outside my apartment.

The sounds all a cacophony of tragedy blending together...my headache only got worse. So...still in shock really, not realizing the magnitude of what

had occurred I got ready to go to work.

I got into my car as I do every morning to leave the garage of my apartment building, and once outside it seemed like I was in a transported to a scene from the movie ``Independence Day``. There were panicked people everywhere...Navy and Army personnel running away from the Pentagon right next to us...crying and walking...hugging each other and in dismay...a women had taken off her Nine West heels and was now walking in her stockings...two lane roads were jam packed with three cars in two lanes...panicked people in cars everywhere...all heading no where...traffic signals weren`t working...horns and sirens going off...complete chaos...complete disorder in once a very quiet and orderly city...cars were wedged everywhere...a stern man in a Lexus was driving on the sidewalk...people all frantically trying to get anywhere but here. I sat in all the pandemonium and chaos and looked up to see the dark clouds of black smoke out of my sunroof...and that`s when it hit home...deep in the pit of my stomach...they hit the Pentagon...they hit this large building with fathers, mothers, aunts and uncles just two blocks from what I once thought was my cozy safe apartment. It was all so unreal...so scary...

My eyes darted right and left, trying to process the chaos...and that`s when I noticed the glares from the sets of eyes fixated on me...``go back to where you came from!!! you *#@ *&

``Pakistan extends implicit support to US, Powell hails

(Updated at 1930 PST)

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has agreed to assist the United States in whatever might be required in dealing with global efforts to combat international terrorism, sources said.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Powell said he wanted to thank the president and people of Pakistan for the support that they have offered, and their willingness to assist us in whatever might be required in that part of the world.`` (NEWS, Pakistan)

``Pakistan agrees to provide ground facilities

(Updated at 1550 PST)

KARACHI: Pakistan Saturday extended military cooperation to the United States of America, reports a foreign news agency.

It said Pakistan would allow to use its soil for multi-national force.`` (NEWS, Pakistan)

If a multi-national force lands in Pakistan, and Pakistan is on worldwide television for even a few hours, what to talk of a few days or months, it will have finally gone beyond the US State Dept. and reached into the living rooms of America. This will be a public relations coup for Pakistan, and a disaster for India.

I am assuming and hoping that Musharraf has been able to get an explicit gaurantee from the US that it will help control the after-effects of a counterattack against Pakistan. If this is the case, then Pakistan will come out really well from this. If this is not the case, then Pakistan will be in huge trouble afterwards.

And I hope if the US launches a ground invasion, it knows what it is doing. Fighting in Iraq is one thing, but fighting in Afghanistan is completely another. Let`s see what happens. Pakistan seems to have gotten into the good books of the US again.

romair,

[...If a multi-national force lands in Pakistan, and Pakistan is on worldwide television for even a few hours, what to talk of a few days or months, it will have finally gone beyond the US State Dept. and reached into the living rooms of America. This will be a public relations coup for Pakistan, and a disaster for India...]

have you gone completely wacko? just a while ago, you were arguing that under no circumstances should pakistan allow its ground to be used - air routes were ok. and suddenly it is a p.r. coup for pakistan and...a `disaster for india`.

oh...i forgot...you ARE all ears.

From The BBC

Pakistanis pray for US victims

Special Friday prayers have taken place at major mosques in Pakistan for those killed in Tuesday`s suicide attacks in the United States.
Separate prayers were also offered for Pakistani citizens who are believed to have died in the attack on the World Trade Centre in New York.

In their sermons clerics expressed their sorrow for the loss of life, saying Islam was totally against such acts against innocent people.

However, more conservative religious leaders have warned the United States against any retaliatory action against Afghanistan`s Taleban rulers.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=2400Teacher beats up student for criticising Osama bin Laden

Press Trust of India

West Bengal, September 15: A class five student had to be hospitalised on being severely beaten up by his Urdu teacher for making remarks against Saudi billionaire Osama bin Laden during a discussion on the terrorist attacks in US, police said on Saturday.

The teacher got so infuriated on hearing the student, Koushik Dey`s remarks against Laden on Friday that he pounced on him and thrashed him in a high school in West Bengal`s Birbhum district, they said.

The boy had to be taken to hospital for treatment, they added. While the headmaster of the school said the teacher had apologised for his action, boy`s father has lodged a complaint in Suri police station.

Macgupta`s question is important.

Fatwa was issued to kill a man just because he wrote a book.

Where is a fatwa now to kill those who organized killing of 5000 americans?

Suxena #35, ``Here you are posting stupidity on yet another board, while asking others to go do something. Hypocrite if I ever saw one.``

Oh pleaseeeeeee don`t use my words again. I know you can`t think of something to say of your own, but this is preposterous.

``It was not ``miniscule`` as you conveniently say -- it was in the thousands. It is still going on, except cameras have been confiscated and you will be not seeing them.``

Thousands (which is an exaggerated number) is miniscule compared to the overall population of Muslims in this world. Whether you like it or not, Muslims make up the second largest population in this world. There are bound to be some deviants, some bitter people.

What matters is, the majority of Muslims, even the most conservative ones, are appalled by this horrible tragedy. And you may pound your chest otherwise, but the reality remains, that the murder of innocents and suicide in any form is HARAM in Islam.

Swallow that and ``shut your trap`` for a change.

You`re going to get it, where you give it.

Re Bijli 17

You can`t help yourself but prove that your are a nincompoop each and every time. For the record, I saw it all happen live. Not on TV but before my own eyes, 2 buildings collapse taking with them thousands of lives. I know of 3 people personally who are still missing--who worked on those high floors. And so don`t bloody lecture me.

The problem with your islamist types is that you sit in the west, enjoy all the benefits and then not just criticize, but wish the worst on this civilization. I have nothing but contempt and now, seething rage for your types.

Unlike many of your types who grew up in a monoculture, I grew up in India with friends who were not just hindu but with christians, sikhs, parsis, muslims and jews. And I live in the NY area where you interact with people of all backgrounds and coexist. show me a muslim majority country where the minority is comfortable and well treated. Other than Malaysia--but for how long?

As long as you look backward to the past, you are doomed to live in it.

The answer to the bombing may be contained in this book. Read it with an open mind my fellow brothers and sisters.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ibn_al-rawandi/review.html

RE Ahmed Madani

Dude in a time of terror and pain, we all do need a little outlet for humor. Do keep writing as your profound thoughts do provide us with that desperate humor break