War, What is it Good For?

RE: Zafar

``PS Actually, Goa is negotiable, but then the package must include Mumbai AND Bal Thackeray.``

Goa stays. Please, we do need a fun place to go vacation. There`s no place like Goa anywhere in south or southeast Asia - we ain`t giving it away.

Reply Saminashah # 87

Saminaji

“I have seen `Priscilla`; I stand corrected...”

Allow me to also recommend “Strictly Ballroom” – a far far better movie, and perhaps one that better reveals the Australian Heart. (! how upleasant!) Actually Muriel’s Wedding beats them both.

Zafar

Reply Sigalph #: 123

Sigalphdada

After consultation with our Minister for Morality and Correct Mindset, one Shri Tahmed, we find that although we are unable to offer you Goa, I can definitely confirm that Nagaland will be yours. I’m sorry to tell you that unless UP and Bihar are included in the bargain, West Bengal is not on offer, but we are willing to negotiate about the proportion of UP you take on. I think Allahabad, with its vibrant Bengali community, is a natural candidate for inclusion. Oh, and Tahmed has mentioned the necessity of Afghanistan becoming West Bangladesh – I’m sure you will not quibble about such a minor matter.

We are sending Jayalalitha on ahead as a muhmithai, regardless of whether deal goes through or not. She will be accompanied by her family, 7000 ADMK Activists and 38 Tamil-Bangla dictionaries and phrase books. (Typical example: “You must pay 18 lakhs into the building fund” ) Please set up some bank accounts prior to her arrival. Oh, seven elephants also will be coming.

I eagerly await your agreement.

Zafar

PS Actually, Goa is negotiable, but then the package must include Mumbai AND Bal Thackeray. Frankly I think too highly of Bangladesh to wish this upon you, and we are currently in negotiation with Dubai and also Taliban Rump Govt. with the same offer except without Goa.

PPS Would you like Nepal? How about Karachi? Willing also to throw in Orissa as a sweetner, now that you mention same. Before you say no, just think – what a ring “my Baganbari in Bhubaneshwar” has! Wouldn’t you like to be able to say that? Basically we’re willing to do whatever you want so long as you take Ayodhya….no, anything but Shah Rukh…

Zafar #84

Re Gore Vidal, I`ll keep a watch for what he says, hopefully he will be given enough time or space to say it...

Zafar Bhai,

I have seen `Priscilla`; I stand corrected...

Thank you very much...thank you...

Samina

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Reply Saminshah # 80

“I think the Land of Oz might be a good place for the King to chill in...once he trades in his studded, flared white jumpsuits for some kinder threads and a boogie board...”

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but Australia is the one country where Abba never went out of fashion…seen “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert”? Allow me to recommend it. My point is Elvis would fit right in without any changes. (Accept no substitutes.)

Reply Sadna # 81

Sadna

“And news analysis, its amazing how the same analysts sound so much more intelligent when they are on PBS. The reason is, they are given time to talk and maintain a logical continuity to hit home their point on PBS whereas on mainstream channels they are constantly interrupted by their host adhering to the dictates of the `short attention span` advertising myth….This happens even on CNN, the so-called authentic news channel.”

I’d be interested in finding out what Gore Vidal thinks about the whole thing. Apart from being in a bad mood with the world the man is prescient.

Zafar

Sadna,

Agreed. My family tends to watch BBC and PBS, I listen to NPR and Pacifica stations and when we are feeling masochistic, Ted and his cronies. More flake than a freshly baked croissant.

re: Banjara; oops...

regards!

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saminashah #80
1. Banjaara is not one of the twelve heads, I believe :).

2. I`ve been faithfully following the interesting Israel-Palestine exchange, from board to board:)

3. Re the US mainstream media and its handling of `issues` from another board. Well I think they are quite as flaky about covering THEIR OWN issues.

I thought they did a terrible job with the coverage on school shootings and the Florida Presidential election, too. I found, the way news is presented, the only authentic conclusion one can draw watching TV news is what do TV news producers think about an issue, or what do TV news producers think people think. One can just not reach ones own conclusion about anything they are covering, at all!

And news analysis, its amazing how the same analysts sound so much more intelligent when they are on PBS. The reason is, they are given time to talk and maintain a logical continuity to hit home their point on PBS whereas on mainstream channels they are constantly interrupted by their host adhering to the dictates of the `short attention span` advertising myth.

This happens even on CNN, the so-called authentic news channel. I donot watch him much but even Ted Koppel doesnot seem to display the requisite patience or faith either to really get to the bottom of any issue or to hear out what doesnot vibe with his own predetermined conclusion.

Its been said that news coverage has been a commercially losing proposition for a while, so hard news reportage had suffered severe budgetary cuts in all the TV networks in the last many years. That could be one reason for their general flakiness and the importance given to marketing news as a spectacle to suit public taste, apart from the handicap of inbuilt attitudes and tendency to stick with the government line.

Its no surprise that the media donot cover themselves in glory regarding the WTC bombings and American Muslims. They`ve made efforts to be fair and sensitive this time, that has to be granted, regardless of whether they succeeded or not.

Zafar Bhai

``Hey! You leave ELVIS out of this!...``

Something Mr.S would say...he sends his adaab to you and the Chowkwallahs, btw. He appreciates your concerns, as do I.

I think the Land of Oz might be a good place for the King to chill in...once he trades in his studded, flared white jumpsuits for some kinder threads and a boogie board...just tell him to stay away from the two Colonels: the colonel who was his pill pushing man and Colonel Saunders...and remember...don`t be cruel (sorry, couldn`t resist it!)...

Where are Sadna, Hamid and Upman? Do make an appearance, sister and bros...

Reply Saminashah # 76

“Maybe you should weegee them …Then see if Elvis is around.”

Hey! You LEAVE ELVIS OUT OF THIS!!!!!

Zafar

PS Did I tell you I saw him lining up for a Salvation Army free lunch here in Sydney a month ago? Sach, kasam khatha hoon, it was him, and I think he recognised me you know, otherwise why would he have asked me for a dollar…..no, no, blue suede shoes se patha laga…no, yaar, white sports coat aur pink carnation tho overkill hotha, na…Elvis tho hamesha se subtul aadmi hai…what do you mean “dead”?… bukwas!….nahin, dekhiye, aap urstruly se bhi poochhiye, voh aap ko samajha denge…

Saminashah # 76

Samina bibi you are on the wrong board.I know you are angry,but please cool down and contact Burke School of Peerage located in London,UK and learn some basics before refuting HRH.I have already

assured HRH that you will do that.Now be a good

person( I didn`t use the word girl,incase you call

me patronizing:)and get on the right board.

Regards.

Sigalph,

Exactly the theme I was hoping you`d reveal when you overplayed your hand. The notion that Palestinians could not take care of themselves will shortly be followed by the line,``...and Israel created a green and watered heaven where before there was an infertile desert...``.

I suppose we could tell all the Christian and Muslim Palestinian farmers whose trees were bulldozed and whose land was confiscated that those trees really did not exist. We could tell those Christian and Muslim refugees (whose numbers are growing, thanks to the agressive expansion of Israeli settlements) that their land was a figment of their imaginations. Perhaps we could tell the Christian and Muslim workers and laborers whose mobility and incomes depend on the whims of the Israeli administration and the current state of civil insurgency; of course you`d have to convince all of us that these civil insurgencies are created by Muslim Arabs who really live in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and not really indigenous, can we say the word, ``Palestinian``?. (And lets not even begin to talk about Lebanon.)Also, those passes Christian and Muslim Gazan and West Bank Palestinians carry?-Not at all similar to South Africa`s apartheid system. The refugee camps that hold political prisoners are really holding pens for Islamic malcontents who don`t know better, they should thank Israeli excursions into their houses, and roads made inaccessible for emergency medical care, because they have been given the gift of Western Democracy. Above all, we must be convinced of all the myths that rest on the belief that the natives are uncontrollable, they are savage children, the natives must produce leaders we approve of, the natives cannot be trusted, our version of democracy is not based on first, second and third class citizenship,and so on.

Where does Israel get its money from? Why is not Israel`s treatment of the Palestinian civillian population considered state terrorism? You know what term means, Sig, don`t you?

My respect to your ancestors. Maybe you should weegee them and see what they have to say on this matter. Ask them if some people are more human than others. Then see if Elvis is around.

regards

Sigalph,

Exactly the theme I was hoping you`d reveal when you overplayed your hand. The notion that Palestinians could not take care of themselves will shortly be followed by the line,``...and Israel created a green and watered heaven where before there was an infertile desert...``.

I suppose we could tell all the Christian and Muslim Palestinian farmers whose trees were bulldozed and whose land was confiscated that those trees really did not exist. We could tell those Christian and Muslim refugees (whose numbers are growing, thanks to the agressive expansion of Israeli settlements) that their land was a figment of their imaginations. Perhaps we could tell the Christian and Muslim workers and laborers whose mobility and incomes depend on the whims of the Israeli administration and the current state of civil insurgency; of course you`d have to convince all of us that these civil insurgencies are created by Muslim Arabs who really live in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and not really indigenous, can we say the word, ``Palestinian``?. (And lets not even begin to talk about Lebanon.)Also, those passes Christian and Muslim Gazan and West Bank Palestinians carry?-Not at all similar to South Africa`s apartheid system. The refugee camps that hold political prisoners are really holding pens for Islamic malcontents who don`t know better, they should thank Israeli excursions into their houses, and roads made inaccessible for emergency medical care, because they have been given the gift of Western Democracy. Above all, we must be convinced of all the myths that rest on the belief that the natives are uncontrollable, they are savage children, the natives must produce leaders we approve of, the natives cannot be trusted, our version of democracy is not based on first, second and third class citizenship,and so on.

Where does Israel get its money from? Why is not Israel`s treatment of the Palestinian civillian population considered state terrorism? You know what term means, Sig, don`t you?

My respect to your ancestors. Maybe you should weegee them and see what they have to say on this matter. Ask them if some people are more human than others. Then see if Elvis is around.

regards