Bahr-e-Zulmaat

JAfridi

Why Pakistan as the frontline ally? - Why Afghanistan as the enemy?

Osama is not enough of an answer.

Is this the excuse or fig leaf Musharraf needs to be cut the particular Islamist influence down to size in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Do you lend any credence to this? But doesn`t he have bigger fish to fry?

Very little of this emerging scenario makes any sense.

Top News Main News News Flash Home News City News Business Sports News Articles Editorials Letters Authors





FRONT PAGE







Urdu Service

About PNS

Web Radio

Chat Forum

Register .PK

Become a Member

PNS E-Shop

Columnists

Advertise

Contact us

Donate

Archives

News FLash

Lower Graphics

Awards











Free E-Mail

News Ticker

Newsletters

Exclusive

Subscribe

News Alert







Picture Archives

PNS Mobile

Syndicate

PNS Wire



Entertainment

Show-Biz

Books

e-Cards

FAQ

Featured Links

Heritage

Kashmir

Pakistan

Tours & Travel

Video News

Weather



E-MAIL:

Subscription Services Subscribe to PNS News Letter.

Enter your address:



DISCUSSION:

Message board

Chat

Feedback



PNS Bazar

Register .pk Domain

Internet Services

Currency Exchange Center

Featured Vendors

(c) Copyright & Legal Info

Site Designed and Maintained by PakCyber.Com









Israeli Zionist teams are training Indian forces in Indian occupied Kashmir: Jane`s

Updated on 2001-08-17 13:45:26



Send this Article to your friend

Printer-Friendly Version!!!

Post your Comments





WASHINGTON, August 17 (PNS): Israeli intelligence agencies have ``several teams`` now in Kashmir training Indian occupation forces to fight Kashmiri Mujahideen groups operating there.

``Israel is understood to be ``heavily involved`` in helping New Delhi combat Mujahideen and this is part of the intensifying of relations between the security apparatus of the two countries, said a report on Jane`s Terrorism and Security Monitor.

It gave no specific details of the cooperation or deployment, but said the moves ``fits into Israel`s increasing focus on events in Central Asia, and as far as Indonesia``.

Recent reports in the Israeli media also speak of increased exchanges between New Delhi and Tel Aviv, including one account of a phone conversation between India`s foreign minister Jaswant Singh and Israel`s Shimon Peres in which they discussed the security issues facing their countries.

Although Singh did not express or mentioned anything on Israel`s brutal action against Palestinian Mujahideen and, on the contrary, had plenty of questions, Peres is said to have explained the rationale of the Israeli counterattacks.

HRW condemns India for hushing up on caste discrimination

4000 Israeli employees in WTC escape

Updated on 2001-09-19 14:12:04





ISLAMABAD, September 19 (PNS): Nearly 4000 Israeli employed in World Trade Center in New York were absent on the day the incident of air attacks took place in US on September 11.

``No one talked about any Israeli being killed or wounded in the attacks`` Arab diplomatic sources revealed to the Jordanian al-Watan newspaper adding that those Israelis remained absent that day based on hints from Shabak, the Israeli General Security Apparatus.

According to an Israeli newspaper Yadiot Ahranot, the Shabak also prevented Israeli premier Ariel Sharon from travelling to New York and particularly to the city`s eastern coast to participate in a festival organized by the Zionist organizations in support of the ``Israel``. End.

FBI detains 5 Israelis for having connection with WTC incident

Updated on 2001-09-19 14:12:04





NEW YORK, September 19 (PNS): Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey were held by Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for having links with the World Trade Center incident in New York last Tuesday.

According to Information Times, the five are expected to be deported sometime soon.

The five were transferred out of the FBI`s facility on Saturday morning and are now being held in two prisons in New Jersey by the Immigration and Naturalization Services. They are charged with illegally residing in the United States and working there without permits.

The Foreign Ministry said in response that it had been informed by the consulate in New York that the FBI had arrested the five for ``puzzling behaviour.`` They are said to have had been caught videotaping the disaster and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery. End.





Post your Comments

Rehan,

Its great to read another article.

Hamid

I won`t assume that you don`t know about various North American peace/resistance movements. Your previous posts have been uniformly bright, articulate and amusing. I would just like to clarify that progressive peace movements can`t be reduced to bead wearing, agarbati burning and Kumbayaa. The progressive peace movement in NYC is interested in a historically, economically and politically contextual analysis of this situation and seeks to change the less than equitable ways in which US policy is manifested around the world.

We should also take into account that the West seeks to control oil and gas resources and prices.

Obviously, terrorism must be addressed, but honestly, Hamid and other hawkish Chowkies, how will bombing and assasin squads resolve anything in an internationally supported way? Isn`t the definition of an insane person as someone who performs the same action over and over again, hoping for a different outcome, when the reality shows otherwise?

Rather than viewing terrorism and violent fundamental movements as a Manichean struggle, (an early American Puritan/Calvinist perspective) can we acknowledge the reality that these movements often spring from countries in which there are no real democratic systems or outlets for expression? And take into account, that these are governments that the US has supported, whether they were democratic or not. I think we had been discussing that issue before this nightmare began.

I think the US must be willing to see itself as part of the world community and be committed to renegotiating its foreign policies.

Um, we sing different songs. Plus our slogans are sexier than anything the conservatives can come up with.

regards

Mr. Ansaari

For once in your life write something for Chowk without snuffing that white thing up your nostrils. I had given up reading you a long time ago but made an exception to see your views on the crisis and tragedy at hand and found the same incoherent rambling. You couldn`t even put Allama Iqbal`s one of the most famous shair together; which even a second grader would remember:

Dasht to Dasht darya bhi na choray humnay
Behr-e-zulmaat mein dorra diyay ghoray hum nay.

You messed it up with

Ki Mohammmad (pbuh) say wafa too nay to haum tayray hain
Yeh jehan cheez hay kia, loh-o-Qalam tayray hain

And I admit that I am not so bright but I failed to see the purpose or context of that mangled shair in you article.


Chowk Staff:

Editing Please

Hamidm

I know that you belong to the bhangi squad as well; open up your drooping eyes and see that the only women (in Hijab) being shot are being shot by your American masters. And by the way, when you get out of your bhung stupor tell Americans that Sikhs, Mirzais, and French are not Muslims.

NEW WORLD ORDER,

Another attempt to justify, to show the underlying cause. Many have accepted, except for a few indians that terrorism is part oflife, alittle like burglary in the west. A formal complaint to the police station, it is essentially to ensure that you are not lying, not for the police to chase the burglar, the insurance pays out, you get the goods and the burglar comes again, even though you have installed the burglar alarm as part of the new policy.

It is time ti view terrorism like that, last time a plane was hijacked, a few teeorists got freedom, this time afew will be killed. Some times they win, some times you loose, and one day they will loose very badly, that is called iraquisation

I am very impressed with the thought process of our dear friend Reehan.

Pakistanis living in the US and other western countries are facing the backlash from a hysterical population. Muslims are associated with the carnage at WTC through inference mechanism of Mob psychology. The US government has demosntrated a sincere resolve to check the rising hate crime, but dont bet your farm; it would not make much of a difference. Life has permanently changed after Sep 11.

The US took part in two world wars. In WW II the total casualties sustained on continental US (CONUS) were 5 only (Hawaii / Pearl Harbor was a distant story). WW II ended with Nuclear attacks on Japan, more than 300,000 casulaties - nobody in the US thought it was excessive. US casued an estimated 4.3 Million deaths in Korea, Vietnam, Middle East, Latin America - without suffering a single casualty on the CONUS.

Geographical isolation had bred a flawed mind set, that they dont belong to this world - that they can liberally dispense death and destruction all over the world with impunity. The little danger posed by ``rouge states`` can be checked thru deploying ``Star Wars systems``.

How to even / or better the score of carnage. Dont buy the rhetoric of ``International / Global War on Terorrism`` - it remains essentially an American problem.

Pakistan is the most stupid amongst the ``global partners`` to have ACTUALLY conceded to serve as a front line state. No sane person buys this crap ``This side / or that side - choose your sides``.

Nobody buys the ``Joint Indo-Israeli attack on Kahuta story`` either. If our Strategic Assets are so fragile, so poorly dispersed, and have such a poor deterrant value; what are they good for ?

Pakistan has been under sanctions since 1992; even though we were part of the Gulf War coalition. We have suffered all the indignity of being a ``Terrorist State`` - without having been formally declared. Economically we been bogged upto our axles in mud.

In the end - we will end up eating the 100 onions and get the 100 lashes too - simply because we are STUPID.

One has to be completely pretentious to call Iqbal, ``Iqbal Lahori``...unless one were Iranian.

And you could at least show that you are somewhat literate, by getting Iqbal`s verses right.

hollywood holds no charm anymore.

we have living, breathing, real movies to deal with now.

but getting back to your convoluted yet understandable thoughts......you`re right, no one cried when Baghdad or Sarajevo were ground zeroed.

Muslim lives and livelihood just aren`t as precious.

Rehan Ansari.

Dasht tau dasht hain darya bhi na choRay hamnay

bahr-e-zulmaat main dauRa diye ghoRey hamnay

Regards.

...... let`s break out the beads, hold hands and sing kum bah ya while the jihadis plot their next operation ``just cause`` ........ let`s sit around finding excuses for why they are the way they are while thay march their women into football stadiums and shoot them in the head ..... let`s turn the other cheek so they can slap it too and shout ``takbeer`` ...... let`s just go ahead and assume that all criminals had a good reason to do what they did and let them out of prison........there are no absolutes, nothing is black and white, there is no evil and there is no good, it is all one big blurry grey ........let`s have one big group hug with mullah omar, osama, fazloo, qazi hussain and charles manson ..........oh, what the heck, let`s include saddam and advani and thackery ........great big group hug !

Rehan,

I got really disturbed by the tone of your article, confusing specially was the use of iqbal`s verses at the very end.

It seems it is written by an alien who has a good background in world affairs.

stay good.