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Ref AAmir #: 95

[I MEAN IT MUST BE VERY EASY FOR MID EASTERN & IRANIAN ,LEBENONI TO `SUCCKER` PAKISTANI]

Who knows; maybe they are very good at it and give better BJs.

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Saminashah # 94

``I am not interested in having a dialogue with you or any of your multiple personalities. Beyond these reminders, I will not respond to your posts because they become increasingly insulting and hostile, particularly to female Chowkwallahs and people who are not Muslim.

New Chowkwallahs, be warned of a Chowkwallah who has created several nicknames and uses them deceptively. The names are: Aamir, Studebaker, AeishA, Fatimah, Deepika, Bapu, Brad Cruise, Bijli, Banjaara, etc. This person does not follow basic interaction rules of decency on this website.``

You missed Shah and Bhardwaaj from the list.How did you arrive at the conclusion that I was a part of this group is beyond my comprehension.

From your posts,you seem to be highly educated person who has the faculty to differentiate between the message contents of the G-12 (Group

of twelve) and my self.Their general thrust is

anti-indian,anti-jewish,anti-liberal,and sometimes

extremely vulgar (ref: Shah`s dirty thoughts on

Scout and RSaxena in Bengali),you might be intrested to know from the Chowk posters who exposed him.Similarly,who exposed the cultural

shortcomings of Studebaker,when he snidely remarked about lack of Pakistani`s education in

Hindi or Sanskrit.Lastly,thier love of cut & paste

for want of original thoughts on their part is all

too evident to Chowkists.

However,if you still continue in your belief that

I am part of G-12,it is your prerogative.I would

like to end here with a verse from Ghalib.

Lo voh bhi kah rahe hain ke be-nang o naam hai

Yeh jaanta agar tau lutaata na ghar ko main

Regards.

Ref Banjaara #: 98

[``Considering that Nawab Siraj ud Dowla was not really a Bengali,why would his descendants be

considered so?``]

While Siraj-ud-Dowla might have kept on to his Pathan/Moghul/Turkic heritage and spoken only Persian and Urdu, his descendants have identified themselves with the land of Bengal and speak and act like Bengalis. That is what makes them Bengalis, unlike you mo-fo`s who behave as if you are directly descended from Baber, Sher Shah Suri or Taimur Lane.

The day Indian Muslims say -- like 99.9999% of them do today -- that India belongs to them and that they belong in India, they will be full citizens of India in their hearts and not just on their passports. Thank God that the vermin who decided not to be part of India have formed the Land of the Pure so that they can be free to hunt and kill fellow Muslims who happen to be Shias or Ahmediyyas.

Have you started a debate in your madrassah on whether or not Prophet Muhammad shaved his armpits? I believe the subject is of greater importance than teaching modern science and technology.

re Pankaj #83:

``Thus one can say there was hardly a war fought.

Reference : David Landes in `` The wealth and poverty of nations``.

I wonder what would be David Lande`s(and by implication your) take on the US-Iraq ``war``? :)

later

-sac

Samina#94

Banjaara is not one of face of the twelve headed monster. I know this because I have interacted with him for quite some time. Note that his language and style are in marked contrast with Shah et. al.

#105 harimou

Harimou, you`re one vicious attack dog.

I haven`t seen you be nice to anyone. Are you compensating for some massive insecurities by being this nasty?

No, don`t answer that.

sigalph235 Reply #: 92

Buddy, you are wrong. ALL of this West Bengal

deal, not just Murshidabad, causes heartburn

since all of it is ours:)I was hoping that when

Saxenaji becomes Pradhanmantri, we could work

something out. But don`t be so loud; these

negotiations have to take place in discreet, you

know.

Which makes as much sense as Mexico demanding California & Texas. :-):-):-)

Regards,

harimau #: 99

Ref sigalph235 #: 92

[Buddy, you are wrong. ALL of this West Bengal deal, not just Murshidabad, causes heartburn since all of it is ours:)I was hoping that when Saxenaji becomes Pradhanmantri, we could work something out. But don`t be so loud; these negotiations have to take place in discreet, you know.]

Isn`t the real tragedy in 1947 the partition of Bengal and its incorporation into Pakistan? If instead of following Jinnah -- whose hatred of the Congress led him to suggest that if Bengal is to remain united it should be an independent country outside India -- Bengal had stayed in the Union, you would have had the single largest voting block, the single largest linguistic group and the ability to influence Indian politics like West Bengal alone never could. With a staunchly anti-Communist Muslim group, Bengal would not have gone Communist the way it has in India and Calcutta would not have been dragged down to its current level from being the finest city in all of Asia. Bangladeshis would not be treated as unwelcome illegal immigrants but would have joyously participated in uninterrupted social progress for half a century.

What a great loss for the beautiful people of the Ganges delta.

Never mind the political boundaries between India and Bangladesh. The Bengalis are united by language and culture far more than they are divided by some arbitrary line on the ground.



C’mon, do you seriously think the likes of Khwaja Nazimuddin & Suhrawardy had any future in independent India? Nazimuddin was a British toady. About Suhrawardy, well, the less said the better. Let’s just put it this way: you wouldn’t want to invite him home for dinner, and if you did then you would want to count your silverware, very carefully, after he left!

And remember, these people were Muslim leaders in Bengal. The only Muslim politician with a genuine popular base, Fazlul Haque, had already sold out and then sidelined by the British and the Muslim League.

Regards,

harimau # 105

``That is what makes them Bengalis, unlike you mo-fo`s who behave as if you are directly descended from Baber, Sher Shah Suri or Taimur Lane.``

My friend, you didn`t need to bring my mother into

this discussion.I respect your mother as much as I respect my mother.Therefore,we are on different wavelengths and there is nothing to talk about.

As for the rest of your venom,I wish you had taken

the trouble to read as to whose quotation it was

that put you in such a frenzy,your attack may have

been elsewhere.

Regards.

Banjaara,

Please excuse my mistake; it will not happen again. Unfortunately, I have not read many of your posts, and misunderstood the post in question. As for my being highly intelligent, its a terrible rumor...

sincerely, Samina

Reply Sigalph235 # 92

“Buddy, you are wrong. ALL of this West Bengal deal, not just Murshidabad, causes heartburn since all of it is ours:)I was hoping that when Saxenaji becomes Pradhanmantri, we could work something out. But don`t be so loud; these negotiations have to take place in discreet, you know.”

Sigalphdada,

We will happily GIFT you West Bengal (tomorrow) with the proviso that you also accept Bihar. If you are willing please let me know and our people will talk to your people.

Zafar

re harimau

``The Bengalis are united by language and culture far more than they are divided by some arbitrary line on the ground.``

No kidding. We still all adore Tagore and Nazrul. The rest of your post is no different than the average Pakistani`s: they blame Congress and you blame Jinnah for Bengal`s partition. Give me a break. Both Congress and the League exhaled a sigh of relief when Bengal was partitioned. Warna, donon ke nak me dam kar de te.

re glib 109

Your characterization of Sher-e-Bangla AK Fazlul Haque, H S Suhrawardy, and Khwaja Nazimuddin only shows your own lack of depth in history. Nothing I can say will change your mind. We will have to disagree on that. And yes, I`d have been honored to have any of them as guests. Two of them were indeed guests at the place I grew up, though way before I was born.

Your comments just go to show that Pakistani and Indian big brother mentality isn`t always that distinguishable.

re: saminashah # 93

(Your ancestors seem to be extraordinary people)

Samina,

I have realized, much to my horror, that I am among the very few people whose ancestors were not extraordinary people. At least now I can console myself that if I can`t write as luminous a prose as sigalph does, there is a reason for it.

Zafar bhai,

I propose we sweeten the offer and throw in UP too. Or, is that a deal breaker, sigalphda?