Explaining it to an American Friend

RSaxena:

* *I`ve alway been that badtameez on Chowk. (On an anonymous message board, one person`s saint is another`s demon...any opinion you hold of someone exists only in the ether anyway...so why worry about it? * *

:)

How Authentic and Touching!(Tears...tup tup tup)
...sniffing... Can someone pass the kleenex please?

Thanks.

In the lists of those detained or arrested or wanted so far by the FBI -- is there any named as being of Afghan origin. There are plenty of nationalities mentioned, but I do not recall seeing Afghans, who presumably suffer the most from poverty and war.

-Arun Gupta

Re: anNy

``and im not going to go to kabul..i hear the afghanis are very stern with besharam tongue sticking lollypop eating brats like me..i AM going to bombay though in a few months....what say you and i meet up for lunch `sweetumnz`?``

Be sure to visit Farzana. But be careful, I hear she packs some serious ammo...with all those non-Muslims in Bombay running around making her life miserable, you never know.

``ps: seriously though, you need to work on how you handle your grief and sorrow or whatever else it is thats making u so nasty...theres only so much budtameezee people will take..everybody hurts and if you are just now, im sorry..but taking it out on others, being bitchy to them and taking pot shots left right and centre is not right``

Huh? I don`t know who started this but I`ve maintained the same positions before and after the attack. So the issue of how I handle grief and sorrow is irrelevant. When have I not taken pot shots at people calling Indians roaches? When have I not taken pot shots at hypocrites condemning terrorism on the one hand and promoting an ``understanding`` of it on the other?

I`ve alway been that badtameez on Chowk. (On an anonymous message board, one person`s saint is another`s demon...any opinion you hold of someone exists only in the ether anyway...so why worry about it?)

http://www.time.com/time/asia/news/magazine/0,9754,176029-2,00.html

Attiya is struck by the number of jihad slogans scrawled on the roadside walls. They weren`t there before, but Kashmiri militant groups now recruit fighters from all over Pakistan, even in the remotest areas.

Scout, can you please tell me what this means? Does this mean that the Kashmiris are deciding their own future?

Scout ji, why did you cut our discussion short?

CNN statement about false claim it used old video

There is absolutely no truth to the information that is now distributed on the Internet that CNN used 10-year-old video when showing the celebrating of some Palestinians in East Jerusalem after the terror attacks in the U.S. The video was shot that day by a Reuters camera crew. CNN is a client of Reuters and like other clients, received the video and broadcast it. Reuters officials have publicly made the facts clear as well.

The allegation is false. The source of the allegation has withdrawn it and apologized. It was started by a Brazilian student who now says he immediately posted a correction once he knew the information was not true. This is the statement by his university -- UNICAMP -- Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil.

Again, please read this -- and copy it -- and send it to anyone you know who may have the false information. Thank you.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Universidad de Campinas-Brasil

17/09/01

UNICAMP (Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil) would like to announce that it has no knowledge of a videotape from 1991, whose images supposedly aired on CNN showing Palestinians celebrating the terrorist attacks in the U.S. The tape was supposedly from 1991, and there were rumors that the images were passed off as current.

This information was later denied, as soon as it proved false, by Márcio A. V. Carvalho, a student at UNICAMP. He approached the administration today, 17.09.2001, to clarify the following:

-- the information he got, verbally, was that a professor from another institution (not from UNICAMP) had the tape;

-- he sent the information to a discussion group e-mail list;

-- many people from this list were interested in the subject and requested more details;

-- he again contacted the person who first gave him the information and the person denied having the tape;

-- the student immediately sent out a note clarifying what happened to the people from his e-mail list.

The original message, however, was distributed all over the world, often with many distortions, including a falsified by-line article from the student. He affirms that a hacker attacked his domain. Several E-mails have been sent on his behalf and those dating from 15.09.2001 should be ignored.

Among the distortions is the fact that UNICAMP would be analyzing the tape, which is absolutely false. The administration considers this alert definitive and will be careful to avoid new rumors.

Shah

A Polaris missile is a Polaris missile, regardless of the name of the operation. Hope you get my drift...

Hi Tahmed321,

Thanks for your kind thoughts.

Regards,

Joseph

saxena:

``When are you and sista spout going to Kabul? (You`re not a 10-year-old, don`t try to speak like one....it`s not cute``

sweeets im going to talk like a 2 year old if i want to..coz see...where i am...its a free country...and i can say whatever i want to..samajh aya? so now, if i stick out my tongue at you this very second...theres nothing, absolutely nothing you can do...

:-P

see that?

and im not going to go to kabul..i hear the afghanis are very stern with besharam tongue sticking lollypop eating brats like me..i AM going to bombay though in a few months....what say you and i meet up for lunch `sweetumnz`?

ps: seriously though, you need to work on how you handle your grief and sorrow or whatever else it is thats making u so nasty...theres only so much budtameezee people will take..everybody hurts and if you are just now, im sorry..but taking it out on others, being bitchy to them and taking pot shots left right and centre is not right

thadani 271

[is Gowardhan bhai, worried to see Hindus and Christians supporting Pakistan? Are we muslims in disguise?]

if you are real, welcome again. if you are not, ylh will make up one like you.

Only Pakistanis call Indian mulims false muslims. See how that fool Bijli insists on calling Jawahara as Jaya Hara. It is as if calling someone a Hindu is the worst abuse in the Holy land made for pure muslims. We Hindians are quite happy that Pakistani Hindus (even when they are made up by foolish children like ylh) support Pakistan.

Countries are made from people living together. They are not made by religion, nor for religion - something that a booze drinking, pork eating, child seducing, hate monger did not understand. Stay in the land for Pure muslims. Just never talk about the beards or hair of some old desert men thousands of years ago.

Joseph #264 I followed your and saminashah`s interaction. First, I am sorry you lost two friends at WTC. This has been a terrible event that only the most heartless among men can try to rationalize. Second, you ask why no muslim clerics were present at Yankee Stadium. I dont honestly know. They should have been. I (a muslim living in the US) attended two such gatherings (one at my place of work, along with a couple of thousand other colleagues, the other at the Japanese Memorial next to the Congress). I did that because I wanted to, not because I wanted to prove anything to anyone. Nor is there any way anyone would have known I was a muslim. And I prayed many times for some survivors to be found. And (I dont mind admitting it) when my wife or children were not around, I also cried a bit when listening to the news of how the workers at WTC were desparately hoping to find some survivors.

There are many things that need to be fixed in this world. I wont try to fix them in this post, but will ask you to rest assured that the tragedy of September 11 has shaken the entire world, and the people of NY are not alone in their sorrow.

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Reply Stuka # 278

“My plans are definite boss.”

Sirji, I am going in Feb/March. Oh well….cyberparathas hi khane parenge.

Zafar

Hi Thadani . . . welcome back . . .

Zafar

My plans are definite boss. I`m reaching Bombay on the 29th, and then carrying on to Delhi on the 31st of December. Will be in Del till the 14th. Also plan on visiting Amritsar, but that`s not definite yet. Ofcourse, if there is a war or something, it might screw up my plans, but don`t think that will happen..

What about you? Any idea on dates?