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sorry I meant shima #80

shima #78

Don`t bother to reply to this poltroon and make him feel important. If he is a doctor I am queen Victoria.

RE: shah

``APHC condemns ban on SIMI

SRINAGAR, Sep 30 (PNS): All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC) has strongly

condemned the ban on Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) describing it offshoot of communalism.``

Who gives a rat`s a$$ what APHC thinks. They are as irrelevant as your existence.

Bapu or whoever you are, you must have a big inflated ego to think that we are obsessed about you. Who are you exposing but yourself? See how dubious a character you are, you post as a Pakistani doctor (I guess that is what once Aamir claimed), then you post as an Indian Muslim. What these two entities may have common? it is hate, and that is what shapes your opinion.

We should not be wasting our time on a dubious character like you, but this is the time we should raise our voices against all the bullies, whether they are cyber or real, otherwise event like WTC would be far too common.

Those(in both camps)do not know how to get their points across without hurling personal abuse, they should know that they are trivialised by their own statements, nobody else can do that job better than they themselves.

No doubt it was like a movie, but in all respect it was bad movie. It is right to carry on with life becuase show must go on. Like show is on in Iraq, Phalestine, Afghanistan, Chechnia and other countries.

Neptune, you are right. Actually, if you see the writing of Bapu, Bijli, Aamir, Shah etc. you can see how uniquely they use the comma. This is like DNA fingerprinting of comma. This is fun, have you seen any of the shows like Medical Detectives on discovery channel?

Faiza/Aamir etc etc

HinduUnity.org’s conversion to the doctrine of religious tolerance came so suddenly that they apparently did not have time to update their website to reflect their new-found sensitivities; at press time the site still called for all Muslims to get out of India, it still warned that the 1992 destruction of the historic Babri Mosque by Hindu fanatics was “only the tip of the iceberg�Ein a coming campaign of mosque demolitions, and it continued to assert that “for the survival of Hinduism, it`s people and it`s culture, [Mohandas Ghandhi] had to be assassinated.

Tthis whole article is dead on the money. Tthanks for posting it.

shima #74

Your observation is on the dot. Not only these three, but a lot more nicks are on the line. At the last count, he uses the following nicks:

Studebaker/AAmir/AeishA/Bapu/Bijli/Shah/Faiza/

Fatimah/Deepika/Bhardwaj/Sadhna/Brad Cruise/

Arrested Development/Lajwanti and so on.

If at any point you feel like being in a house of mirrors and facing the same idiot at every corner is because you actually are.

Tahmed, I think you are right about the identity of Bijli, Bapu, and now this faiza, you may want to add studebaker in that list also. The writing style is very similar, some incoherent sentences, then suddenly something appears in all caps. The unabated India bashing, in fact they are good substitute for Gowardhan and Akash for Pakistan bashing (although, I must say Akash has toned down a bit). Only problem is all these multiple personalities claim to be are Indians!!! Kitni sharm ki bat...

I just saw the interview of Pervaiz Musharaff with Christiana Amanpour on CNN. He was clear, direct and honest in response to excellent questions from the veteran journalist, Ms. Amanpour. I am now convinced more than ever that God is watching out for Pakistan: that is why we have Musharaff with his strong character and concern for Pakistan in charge.

Let us pray that Pakistan comes out of all this back on the road to peace and progress.

The interview will be repeated a few times today on CNN, and chowkies might want to check it out.

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Eklavya #60 krashid has not posted in months. I pray all is well with him. Maybe it is time to resurrect Shirin`s suggestion (at one time on chowk) for each of the chowk regulars to have ``chowk buddy`` who could advise the rest of us of any events in real life that can be shared on chowk.

Arundhati Roy besides being reputed writer ,has been a Social activist in India against a Dam narmada being built for generation of hydro electric by ENRON ,an American Multi Natinal Corporation with close to 5 bn. investmentment .

Pp. like Arundhati Roy who is Keralite married to Bong. is staunchily opPosed to the Dam which has uprootedmany poor villagers on its path & wil many millions more all for benefit of electricity for Cities like Ahmedabad ,Delghi Mumai while they will lose there land ,house & trades.Not to speak unable to even afford the electricity.

http://www.sulekha.com/redirectNh.asp?cid=145702

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The Algebra Of Infinite Justice

NOW OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (atleast for muslims sentiments & mine)

So here we have it. The equivocating distinction between civilisation and savagery, between the `massacre of innocent people` or, if you like, `a clash of civilisations` and `collateral damage`. The sophistry and fastidious algebra of Infinite Justice... Free Speech

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In the aftermath of the unconscionable September 11 suicide attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, an American newscaster said: ``Good and Evil rarely manifest themselves as clearly as they did last Tuesday. People who we don`t know, massacred people who we do. And they did so with contemptuous glee.`` Then he broke down and wept. Here`s the rub: America is at war against people it doesn`t know (because they don`t appear much on TV). Before it has properly identified or even begun to comprehend the nature of its enemy, the US government has, in a rush of publicity and embarrassing rhetoric, cobbled together an ``International Coalition Against Terror``, mobilised its army, its airforce, its navy and its media, and committed them to battle.



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Box-cutters, penknives, and cold anger are the weapons with which the wars of the new century will be waged. Anger is the lock pick. It slips through customs unnoticed. Doesn`t show up in baggage checks.

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The trouble is that once America goes off to war, it can`t very well return without having fought one. If it doesn`t find its enemy, for the sake of the enraged folks back home, it will have to manufacture one. Once war begins, it will develop a momentum, a logic and a justification of its own, and we`ll lose sight of why it`s being fought in the first place.



What we`re witnessing here is the spectacle of the world`s most powerful country, reaching reflexively, angrily, for an old instinct to fight a new kind of war. Suddenly, when it comes to defending itself, America`s streamlined warships, its Cruise missiles and F-16 jets look like obsolete, lumbering things. As deterrence, its arsenal of nuclear bombs is no longer worth its weight in scrap. Box-cutters, penknives, and cold anger are the weapons with which the wars of the new century will be waged. Anger is the lock pick. It slips through customs unnoticed. Doesn`t show up in baggage checks.

Who is America fighting? On September 20, the FBI said that it had doubts about the identities of some of the hijackers. On the same day, President George W. Bush said: ``We know exactly who these people are and which governments are supporting them.`` It sounds as though the President knows something that the FBI and the American public don`t.

In his September 20 address to the US Congress, President Bush called the enemies of America ``Enemies of Freedom``.

``Americans are asking why do they hate us?`` he said. ``They hate our freedoms—our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.`` People are being asked to make two leaps of faith here. First, to assume that The Enemy is who the US government says it is, even though it has no substantial evidence to support that claim. And []

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It`s reasonable to wonder why the symbols of America`s economic and military dominance—the World Trade Center and the Pentagon—were chosen as the targets of the attacks. Why not the Statue of Liberty?

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second, to assume that The Enemy`s motives are what the US government says they are, and there`s nothing to support that either.

For strategic, military and economic reasons, it is vital for the US government to persuade the American public that America`s commitment to freedom and democracy and the American Way of Life is under attack. In the current atmosphere of grief, outrage and anger, it`s an easy notion to peddle. However, if that were true, it`s reasonable to wonder why the symbols of America`s economic and military dominance—the World Trade Center and the Pentagon—were chosen as the targets of the attacks. Why not the Statue of Liberty? Could it be that the stygian anger that led to the attacks has its taproot not in American freedom and democracy, but in the US government`s record of commitment and support to exactly the opposite things—to military and economic terrorism, insurgency, military dictatorship, religious bigotry and unimaginable genocide (outside America)?



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saminashah

``7. No Arab state is democratic, so why shouldn`t Israel be run as an apartheid state? (can`t quite follow the logic here)``



sshah

Israel is an IMPLANT ,unlike the prexisting since biblical time Baghdad,Syria,Egypt,Saudi ,.Cant just compare ,like Vajpayee,doing to SIMI ,WHAT BUSH IS DOING IN THE AFTERMATH of 9-11 Tragedy .I cant follow Indian logic either.Not that im dissapointed or anything!