Jawahara Saidullah September 23, 2001
#105 Posted by Shah on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
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#104 Posted by aicha on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
Nobody`s wooing anyone Deepika - this is what is called a FREE dialog and is considered V NORMAL. I suggest you take part in it too rather tahn sulking and feeling left out!! And in future pls leave my name out of your posts! Thkyou -
#103 Posted by Deepika on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
Jwahra stop depressing every body with your sissy tears.In bangladesh fight muslim women gave there lives like Fatimah (r.A,) & like Aeisha(r.A,) went out with men to face Pakistani Army.
Both your articles are nothing but Wailing wall of how much painfull & fearfull & Scared frightened,you are.If you are afraid of high rise & aeroplanes then you have succumbed to your faint heart .Derive inspiration from Islam & early muslims Fatimah & Aeisha
If you want to be informed of BEHIND THE SCENE actions of FBI,CIA,MOSSAD,Counter TERRORISM,ASSASINATION without tear or blinking of eyes of the same grand presidents whom Jery Farwell & Pat Robertson bless with New & altered polluted BIBLE ,IN THE NAME OF GOD,whom shamless sinner ,in public crying for GOD -hypocrites
http://geocities.com/americanterrorism/
#102 Posted by Fatimah on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
Did i not say TERRORISM linked with U.S. Foreign POLICY ?
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/011004/6/bfeo.html
Women must work to temper U.S. `cowboy` response to terror crisis, says group
By STEPHEN THORNE
Click to enlarge photo
OTTAWA (CP) - Canadian women should focus on tempering America`s ``cowboy-inspired`` response to the terrorist attacks in the U.S. and push for justice through the courts, a major women`s group said Thursday.
The Canadian Women`s March Committee also defended the right of Sunera Thobani, a well-known feminist, to make a controversial link between the attacks and U.S. foreign policy. Thobani, former head of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women, told a conference on Tuesday that Canadian women should not be coerced into supporting a U.S. foreign policy that is ``soaked in blood.``
The March Committee emphasized that women have more pressing issues to address than blame.
``War is not the answer to the atrocious crime against humanity committed on Sept. 11, 2001,`` said the group, which says it represents a majority of women`s organizations across Canada.
NAC vice-president Denise Andrea Campbell said Thursday that Thobani broadened discussion on the issue and put some context to the attacks.
``We really support her right - and, actually, all Canadians` right - to ask: why is this happening?`` Campbell told a news conference.
``But on behalf of women across the country . . . we are certainly more interested in looking at the immediate issue at hand, which is: how do we respond to what has happened?``
The committee opposes what it calls U.S. President George W. Bush`s ``vengeful and war-mongering response`` to the attacks. It says the world should follow United Nations guidelines and seek justice in courts of law.
``We expect our governments to lead through compassion, justice and respect for the dignity of all people,`` said the committee declaration.
There is no justification for a full-scale military response to the attacks under UN-defined grounds of self-defence, said Andree Cote, director of law reform at the National Association of Women and the Law.
``It`s so very dangerous in times like this to have unilateral, cowboy-inspired actions that will create possibly a lot of deaths of innocent civilians and international unrest,`` said Cote.
Thobani, a women`s studies professor at University of British Columbia, called the United States ``the most dangerous and the most powerful global force unleashing horrific levels of violence`` in the world today.
Her remarks were condemned by politicians and others as outrageous.
Cote said the reaction to Thobani`s statements has been more troubling than the statements themselves.
``I think this is one of the reasons that we`re opposing war,`` said Cote.
``It creates a climate of intolerance; it creates a climate where basic civil liberties can be violated, where basic freedom of expression is put in jeopardy. We`re very worried by this type of thing.``
She said media and other responses to Thobani`s speech harkened back to the 1950s era of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, who conducted a witchhunt for phantom communists, destroying many innocent lives in the process.
``We want to have a democratic discussion on how to solve this horrible crisis,`` said Cote.
Campbell described Canada`s response so far as an encouraging reinforcement of the country`s traditional values of humanitarianism and peace.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/011004/6/bfeo.html
Women must work to temper U.S. `cowboy` response to terror crisis, says group
By STEPHEN THORNE
Click to enlarge photo
OTTAWA (CP) - Canadian women should focus on tempering America`s ``cowboy-inspired`` response to the terrorist attacks in the U.S. and push for justice through the courts, a major women`s group said Thursday.
The Canadian Women`s March Committee also defended the right of Sunera Thobani, a well-known feminist, to make a controversial link between the attacks and U.S. foreign policy. Thobani, former head of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women, told a conference on Tuesday that Canadian women should not be coerced into supporting a U.S. foreign policy that is ``soaked in blood.``
The March Committee emphasized that women have more pressing issues to address than blame.
``War is not the answer to the atrocious crime against humanity committed on Sept. 11, 2001,`` said the group, which says it represents a majority of women`s organizations across Canada.
NAC vice-president Denise Andrea Campbell said Thursday that Thobani broadened discussion on the issue and put some context to the attacks.
``We really support her right - and, actually, all Canadians` right - to ask: why is this happening?`` Campbell told a news conference.
``But on behalf of women across the country . . . we are certainly more interested in looking at the immediate issue at hand, which is: how do we respond to what has happened?``
The committee opposes what it calls U.S. President George W. Bush`s ``vengeful and war-mongering response`` to the attacks. It says the world should follow United Nations guidelines and seek justice in courts of law.
``We expect our governments to lead through compassion, justice and respect for the dignity of all people,`` said the committee declaration.
There is no justification for a full-scale military response to the attacks under UN-defined grounds of self-defence, said Andree Cote, director of law reform at the National Association of Women and the Law.
``It`s so very dangerous in times like this to have unilateral, cowboy-inspired actions that will create possibly a lot of deaths of innocent civilians and international unrest,`` said Cote.
Thobani, a women`s studies professor at University of British Columbia, called the United States ``the most dangerous and the most powerful global force unleashing horrific levels of violence`` in the world today.
Her remarks were condemned by politicians and others as outrageous.
Cote said the reaction to Thobani`s statements has been more troubling than the statements themselves.
``I think this is one of the reasons that we`re opposing war,`` said Cote.
``It creates a climate of intolerance; it creates a climate where basic civil liberties can be violated, where basic freedom of expression is put in jeopardy. We`re very worried by this type of thing.``
She said media and other responses to Thobani`s speech harkened back to the 1950s era of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, who conducted a witchhunt for phantom communists, destroying many innocent lives in the process.
``We want to have a democratic discussion on how to solve this horrible crisis,`` said Cote.
Campbell described Canada`s response so far as an encouraging reinforcement of the country`s traditional values of humanitarianism and peace.
#101 Posted by audio-video-rad on October 4, 2001 1:55:36 pm
shankar #301: Thanks for the kind words.
As for my submitting articles, I have been helping out a close friend in a story he is writing. Chowk has kindly published the first three chapters. The fourth chapter was submitted a while back, but hasn`t shown up yet. That story will get into the depths of all these issues, including jehadis, in a much more detailed and entertaining manner, than anything I can write.
Let`s hope Chowk publishes his fourth chapter. Although, I think it seems like that may not happen.
Khushwant Singh is perhaps my favorite Indian writer. He was born in the village of Hadali. Which is in in heart of Pakistan Punjab`s rural belt, on the Mianwali-Sargodha road. I was stationed close to there, and used to pass by Khushwant`s birthplace weekly. Had I known it back then, I would have stopped by to pay homage. I am sure he could write in much more detail than me, about Pakistan`s feudal problems, since he was born in the feudal area.
Khushwant Singh, along with Ashwariya Rai, Daler Menhdi, Azim Premji and General Sam Mackenshaw (is he dead?) are the five Indians I would love to meet. For different reasons of course; I would like to go on a date with Azim Premji, discuss computers with Khushwant, literature with Daler Mehndi, talk military strategy with Ashwariya, and hear Mackenshaw sing (I may have gotten the interests mixed up, here :))
Interestingly Khushwant Singh and I have nearly identical solution for Indo-Pakistan`s Kashmir problem: i.e. POK goes to Pakistan, Ladakh and Jammu go to India, the Valley of Kashmir becomes independent within some sort of autonomous framwork between India and Pakistan. Interestingly, Mahatma Gandhi had a similar solution. Due to my Muzzafarabad domicile in POK, according to the Indian Constitution, I am actually an Indian. I have always wondered, why all us sane Indians like Khushwant, Gandhi, and myself keep coming up with identical solutions for the Kashmir problem :-)
Pakistan inherited a much more backwards society than India at partition. The area that became Pakistan was the boondocks of the Sub-Continent. Most Indians do not realize this; nor do many Pakistanis, infact. The only educated class of Pakistanis was the one that migrated from India. It indeed goes to the credit of Pakistanis that they brought themselves to the same level as India, and even passed it economically. within fifteen years (although India is now even or back ahead of Pakistan, economically).
Who will bell the cat? God knows. Anyone who gets into the position of belling the cat, realizes that joining the cat family is much more lucrative, and marries into it. A good example is Zia-ul-Haq`s son and Ayub Khans` son joining the power 4 nexus through alliance with feudal parties and marraiges, respectively.
Musharraf is doing his best, and his son doesn`t seem to be interested in joining the power 4 nexus. But Musharraf can only do so much, specially now that everyone from the religious right to the feudals are ganging up on him, since they know he is going to break the nexus as well as eliminate the religious extreme right (even traditional arch enemies hamidm and Urstruly are forming a coalition). And I don`t know how he is going to legitimize himself, without power 4 nexus taking all kinds of shots at him.
But hopefully now people understand why election after election, under the current system, is never going to solve Pakistan`s problems. It is just going to strengthen the feudals, and the power 4 nexus. That is why I oppose the system of democracy that currently exists in Pakistan. And that is why the feudals are this system`s biggest supporters. If fits their needs, perfectly.
I myself support Imran Khan`s party, and hope to be there during the elections, supporting one of his candidates. Unfortunately, Imran Khan`s party is completely out of the power 4 nexus, and hence cannot do much.
If the religious relatively moderate right like Qazi Hussein Ahmad`s Jamaat-i-Islami come into power, I am quite sure they will break the nexus completely. The nexus is sh//t scared of them, and their street power and fearlessness. The JI plans to completely alter the military, and tear apart the feudals. Their membership actually consists of lower middle class Pakistanis (non power 4 nexus members). However, since they are not part of the nexus in Pakistan, they never win elections, in rural Pakistan. And urban Pakistanis do not vote for them because urbanites in Pakistan dislike maulvis. Even more dangerous is the fact, that all religious right parties have so much baggage of their own, and such hypocritical leadership, and have such extremist views on many issues, that even though they will break the nexus, they may create even bigger problems for Pakistan.
The one party that has (had) the potential of breaking the nexus is (was) MQM of Karachi. It is the only powerful middle-class, educated (leadership consists of a lot of medical doctors and small business owners), liberal, non-power 4 nexus party in Pakistan. However, its leadership has lost its ways completely, and has turned the party into its own occupying force of urban Sindh. If MQM can get good leadership, and lose its paronoia that all non-Muhajirs are looking to destroy Muhajirs, it can spread to other urban centers of Pakistan, like Lahore. I would certainly become a big supporter. It could then unite urban Pakistan under one flag. At that point urban lower, middle and upper-middle class Pakistanis, as one force, could take out the powerful feudals. Currently, however urban Pakistan is divided amongst six or so different political parties (MQM, PML, PPP, ANP, Jammat-i-Islami, Tehrik-e-Insaaf, etc.).
Let`s see how much Musharraf can do, before the power 4 nexus takes him out; which will happen sooner or later. Luckily, unlike Zia`s son and Ayub Khan`s sons, Musharraf is not tempted to join this nexus, and hates their guts (except for the military part of the nexus, from which he currently draws his own power).
As for my submitting articles, I have been helping out a close friend in a story he is writing. Chowk has kindly published the first three chapters. The fourth chapter was submitted a while back, but hasn`t shown up yet. That story will get into the depths of all these issues, including jehadis, in a much more detailed and entertaining manner, than anything I can write.
Let`s hope Chowk publishes his fourth chapter. Although, I think it seems like that may not happen.
Khushwant Singh is perhaps my favorite Indian writer. He was born in the village of Hadali. Which is in in heart of Pakistan Punjab`s rural belt, on the Mianwali-Sargodha road. I was stationed close to there, and used to pass by Khushwant`s birthplace weekly. Had I known it back then, I would have stopped by to pay homage. I am sure he could write in much more detail than me, about Pakistan`s feudal problems, since he was born in the feudal area.
Khushwant Singh, along with Ashwariya Rai, Daler Menhdi, Azim Premji and General Sam Mackenshaw (is he dead?) are the five Indians I would love to meet. For different reasons of course; I would like to go on a date with Azim Premji, discuss computers with Khushwant, literature with Daler Mehndi, talk military strategy with Ashwariya, and hear Mackenshaw sing (I may have gotten the interests mixed up, here :))
Interestingly Khushwant Singh and I have nearly identical solution for Indo-Pakistan`s Kashmir problem: i.e. POK goes to Pakistan, Ladakh and Jammu go to India, the Valley of Kashmir becomes independent within some sort of autonomous framwork between India and Pakistan. Interestingly, Mahatma Gandhi had a similar solution. Due to my Muzzafarabad domicile in POK, according to the Indian Constitution, I am actually an Indian. I have always wondered, why all us sane Indians like Khushwant, Gandhi, and myself keep coming up with identical solutions for the Kashmir problem :-)
Pakistan inherited a much more backwards society than India at partition. The area that became Pakistan was the boondocks of the Sub-Continent. Most Indians do not realize this; nor do many Pakistanis, infact. The only educated class of Pakistanis was the one that migrated from India. It indeed goes to the credit of Pakistanis that they brought themselves to the same level as India, and even passed it economically. within fifteen years (although India is now even or back ahead of Pakistan, economically).
Who will bell the cat? God knows. Anyone who gets into the position of belling the cat, realizes that joining the cat family is much more lucrative, and marries into it. A good example is Zia-ul-Haq`s son and Ayub Khans` son joining the power 4 nexus through alliance with feudal parties and marraiges, respectively.
Musharraf is doing his best, and his son doesn`t seem to be interested in joining the power 4 nexus. But Musharraf can only do so much, specially now that everyone from the religious right to the feudals are ganging up on him, since they know he is going to break the nexus as well as eliminate the religious extreme right (even traditional arch enemies hamidm and Urstruly are forming a coalition). And I don`t know how he is going to legitimize himself, without power 4 nexus taking all kinds of shots at him.
But hopefully now people understand why election after election, under the current system, is never going to solve Pakistan`s problems. It is just going to strengthen the feudals, and the power 4 nexus. That is why I oppose the system of democracy that currently exists in Pakistan. And that is why the feudals are this system`s biggest supporters. If fits their needs, perfectly.
I myself support Imran Khan`s party, and hope to be there during the elections, supporting one of his candidates. Unfortunately, Imran Khan`s party is completely out of the power 4 nexus, and hence cannot do much.
If the religious relatively moderate right like Qazi Hussein Ahmad`s Jamaat-i-Islami come into power, I am quite sure they will break the nexus completely. The nexus is sh//t scared of them, and their street power and fearlessness. The JI plans to completely alter the military, and tear apart the feudals. Their membership actually consists of lower middle class Pakistanis (non power 4 nexus members). However, since they are not part of the nexus in Pakistan, they never win elections, in rural Pakistan. And urban Pakistanis do not vote for them because urbanites in Pakistan dislike maulvis. Even more dangerous is the fact, that all religious right parties have so much baggage of their own, and such hypocritical leadership, and have such extremist views on many issues, that even though they will break the nexus, they may create even bigger problems for Pakistan.
The one party that has (had) the potential of breaking the nexus is (was) MQM of Karachi. It is the only powerful middle-class, educated (leadership consists of a lot of medical doctors and small business owners), liberal, non-power 4 nexus party in Pakistan. However, its leadership has lost its ways completely, and has turned the party into its own occupying force of urban Sindh. If MQM can get good leadership, and lose its paronoia that all non-Muhajirs are looking to destroy Muhajirs, it can spread to other urban centers of Pakistan, like Lahore. I would certainly become a big supporter. It could then unite urban Pakistan under one flag. At that point urban lower, middle and upper-middle class Pakistanis, as one force, could take out the powerful feudals. Currently, however urban Pakistan is divided amongst six or so different political parties (MQM, PML, PPP, ANP, Jammat-i-Islami, Tehrik-e-Insaaf, etc.).
Let`s see how much Musharraf can do, before the power 4 nexus takes him out; which will happen sooner or later. Luckily, unlike Zia`s son and Ayub Khan`s sons, Musharraf is not tempted to join this nexus, and hates their guts (except for the military part of the nexus, from which he currently draws his own power).
#100 Posted by Shima on October 4, 2001 1:55:36 pm
Neptune, see the demarcation line used by Shah, * is the same used by AVR. Who has time in the world to do that? Unless you are used to do things in certain ways. If Shah and Bapu are the same face then AVR got to be the same person. Also names like Arrested Development and AVR are the expressions of same mind, elaborate yet abstract.
Sorry AVR, although you took my side in the war with Bapu, I have doubts about you :).
Sorry AVR, although you took my side in the war with Bapu, I have doubts about you :).
#99 Posted by jawahara on October 4, 2001 1:55:36 pm
Thanks saminashah, for the public service announcement.:-) I appreciate it.
Despite all the 12 different identities (the bats at twilight) this person is not smart enough to try and disguiuse his/her writing style. They are all equally incoherent, rambling, badly written posts.
Despite all the 12 different identities (the bats at twilight) this person is not smart enough to try and disguiuse his/her writing style. They are all equally incoherent, rambling, badly written posts.
#98 Posted by saminashah on October 4, 2001 1:55:36 pm
Neptune
It is my pleasure! I personally liked your line; ``step on the toes of one, and the other eleven will start screaming...``
shima
this phenomena defies understanding. nonetheless, I think every new female Chowkwallah must be warned. Every week, someone should post a message on each board.
regards
It is my pleasure! I personally liked your line; ``step on the toes of one, and the other eleven will start screaming...``
shima
this phenomena defies understanding. nonetheless, I think every new female Chowkwallah must be warned. Every week, someone should post a message on each board.
regards
#97 Posted by Neptune on October 4, 2001 6:10:04 am
shima #97
Hmmm no... A-V-R is too coherent to be 12-face.
Hmmm no... A-V-R is too coherent to be 12-face.
#96 Posted by Shima on October 4, 2001 3:22:32 am
Jawahara and Samina, audio-video-radio is another nick for the same person with 12 identities. This is really bizzare that one personality attacks another !!
#95 Posted by Neptune on October 4, 2001 3:22:32 am
saminashah #95
[but be warned, speak to one, and the rest will swarm all over you like bats at twillight]
Hey, that was great! Goes straight into my list of quotable quotes (to be passed off as my own later :) ).
[but be warned, speak to one, and the rest will swarm all over you like bats at twillight]
Hey, that was great! Goes straight into my list of quotable quotes (to be passed off as my own later :) ).
#94 Posted by Fatimah on October 3, 2001 11:09:52 pm
#91
#92
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#94
Dont get me wrong i mourn death of 9-11 tragedy ,just as mine
BUT I DO THE BURNT ALIVE VIETNAMESE,KOREAN,NAPALM OVER PALESTENIANS HOUSE,STARVING IRAQI WOMEN & CHILDREN TOO
Those who were also father,sister,mother,sons & daughters but not repeatedly flashed every 5 mins for 3 weeks.Do our mind need repititons to FEEL?
Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890, American
forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe 100 times. Indeed the
United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries`
territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the United
States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world.
Since World War II, the United States actually dropped bombs on 23
countries. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53,
Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo 1964,
Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala
1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s,
Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan 1998,
and Yugoslavia 1999.
Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20 different
coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a dozen
assassinations of political heads of state.
The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of the
United States over the span of the past century:
Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to
protect business interests.
Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with
nationalist rebels.
Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by
Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.
Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the
independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United
States.
Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefields, a city
on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.
China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed
during the Sino-Japanese War.
Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.
Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the
port city of Corinto.
China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the
Boxer Rebellion.
Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed
after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American
War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.
Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the
Spanish-American War; the United States still
maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.
Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto
Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy
Puerto Rico today.
Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San
Juan del Sur.
Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the
battle for succession to the throne.
Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when
Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American
troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when
construction for the canal began.
Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a
revolution.
Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect
American interests during a revolution.
Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the
Russo-Japanese War.
Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.
Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate
was set up.
Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras` war
with Nicaragua.
Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama`s
election.
Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in
Bluefields and Corinto.
Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests during Honduras` civil war.
China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during
continuous flare-ups.
Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests in Havana.
Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama`s
election.
Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests.
Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and
fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.
Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during
revolution.
Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over
Santo Domingo.
Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to
intervene against nationalists.
Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a
revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.
Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican
Republic for eight years.
Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for
16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.
World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe
to fight the Axis powers.
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern
Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five
landings.
Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras`
national elections.
Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two
weeks during a union strike.
Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.
China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during
a nationalist revolt.
Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a
national election.
Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general
strike.
China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for
seven years throughout China.
El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during
the FMLN revolt under Marti.
World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis
powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.
Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of
Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American
plane.
Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of
military force.
Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a
victory for the far right in national ``elections.``
Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the
Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.
Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war
against the Filipino Huk revolt.
Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an
independence rebellion in Ponce.
Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the
war.
Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of
democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah
to power.
Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to
the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the
Viet Minh.
Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the
democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas
in power.
Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners
after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.
Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of
Lebanon during its civil war.
Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians
demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.
Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.
Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions
failed to overthrow the Castro government.
Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the
Cuban Missile Crisis.
Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil
war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.
Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot
while protesting the United States presence in the
Canal Zone.
Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military
coup.
Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a
national election.
Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.
Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the
Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.
Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible
invasion into Iran.
Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside
during Laos` civil war.
Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing
President Allende who had been popularly elected. The
CIA helped to establish a military regime under
General Pinochet.
Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an
effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had
been seized.
Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels
fighting against Marxist Angola.
Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to
liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.
Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan
fighters.
El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers
aid in El Salvador`s war against the FMLN.
Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the
Contra War against the Sandinistas.
Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during
Lebanon`s civil war; 241 were killed in the American
barracks and Reagan ``redeployed`` the troops to the
Mediterranean.
Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases
near the Honduran border.
Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the
Maurice Bishop government.
Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian
planes over the Persian Gulf.
Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and
around the capital city of Tripoli.
Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops
on raids of cocaine areas.
Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the
side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.
Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.
Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest
among Virgin Island peoples.
Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for
government during coup.
Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in
overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama
civilians were killed.
Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate
foreigners during civil war.
Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi
Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against
Iraq.
Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back
Saddam Hussein.
Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during
civil war.
Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed ``no-fly zone``
during civil war in Yugoslavia.
Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a
blockade against Haiti`s military government. The CIA
restored Aristide to power.
Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus`
refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution
began.
Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of
foreigners.
Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a
pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas
components were manufactured.
Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged
Afghan terrorist training camps.
Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks
carried out by the United States in conjunction with
NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.
Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and
other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets
enforced ``no-fly zone`` and continued to hit Iraqi
targets since December 1998.
These * *100 * * instances of American military
intervention did not include times when the United
States:
(1) deployed military police overseas;
(2) mobilized the National Guard;
(3) sent Navy ships off the coast of numerous
countries as a show of strength;
(4) sent additional troops to areas where Americans
were already stationed;
(5) carried out covert actions where American forces
were not under the direct rule of an American command;
(6) used small hostage rescue units;
(7) used American pilots to fly foreign planes;
(8) carried out military training and advisory
programs which did not involve direct combat.
U. S. Government Assassination Plots
Following is a list of prominent foreign leaders whose assassination
(or planning for same) the United States has been involved in since
the end of Second World War. The list does not include several
assassinations in various parts of the world carried out by anti-Castro
Cubans employed by CIA and headquartered in the United States:
LIST A: NON MUSLIMS
1949 - KIm Koo, Korean opposition leader
1950`s - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in
West Germany
1955 - Jose` Antonio Remon, President of Panama
1950`s Chou En-lai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts
on his life
1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premiere of North Korea
1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader
1955 - Jawar Lal Nehru, Prime Minister of India
1959 and 1963 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia
1950s-70s - Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica,
two attempts on his life
1961 - Francois ``Papa Doc``Duvalier, leader of Haiti
1961 - Patrice Lumumba , Prime Minister of Congo (Zaire)
1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, more than
15 attempts on his life
1960s - Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba
1965 - Francisco Caamanao, Dominican Republic opposition leader
1965 - Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi
1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France
1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader
1970 - Salvadore Allende, President of Chile
1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile
1970s and 1981 - Gen. Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence
1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
1983 - Miguel d`Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
1984 - The nine commandantes of the Sandanista
National Directorate
1980`s - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist
assassinated by Mossad in Belgium.
Partial List of Muslim Leaders Assassinated or
Attempted Assassinations
1950`s Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
1960 Brigadier General, Abdul Karim Kassem, Leader of Iraq
1980-86 Muammar Qaddafi, Leader of Libya, several plots and
attempts upon his life
1982 Ayatullah Khomeini, Leader of Iran
1983 General Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan army Commander
1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadllallah, Lebanese Shiite Leader
(80 people killed in that attempt)
1991 Saddam Hussein, Leader of Iraq
Reference: Blum, William, ``KILLING HOPE - U.S. Military and
CIA Interventions Since World War II,`` Appendix III
U.S. Government Assassination Plots, page 453,
Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine 1995. ISBN 1-56751-052-3
Very likely Victims :
April 4, 1979 - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Leader of Pakistan, for pursuing making
of
Nuclear Bomb.
August, 1988. General Ziaul Haq, Military Leader of Pakistan.
1995 - Murtaza Bhutto, Son of ZUlfiqar Ali Bhutto, Anti-American
would-be Leader - Pakistan.
March 25, 1975 - King Faisal of Saudi Arabia through his Nephew, Saudi
Arabia
for imposing 1973 Oil Embargo.
August 24, 1999. Mullah Mohammad Omar, in Kandhar, Afghanistan.
|
``À``List of Known Assassination Plots
1950`s Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President
2001 Since early this year more than 40 Palestinian leaders assassinated
through surrogate Israel.
#92
#93
#94
Dont get me wrong i mourn death of 9-11 tragedy ,just as mine
BUT I DO THE BURNT ALIVE VIETNAMESE,KOREAN,NAPALM OVER PALESTENIANS HOUSE,STARVING IRAQI WOMEN & CHILDREN TOO
Those who were also father,sister,mother,sons & daughters but not repeatedly flashed every 5 mins for 3 weeks.Do our mind need repititons to FEEL?
Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890, American
forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe 100 times. Indeed the
United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries`
territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the United
States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world.
Since World War II, the United States actually dropped bombs on 23
countries. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53,
Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo 1964,
Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala
1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s,
Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan 1998,
and Yugoslavia 1999.
Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20 different
coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a dozen
assassinations of political heads of state.
The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of the
United States over the span of the past century:
Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to
protect business interests.
Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with
nationalist rebels.
Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by
Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.
Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the
independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United
States.
Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefields, a city
on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.
China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed
during the Sino-Japanese War.
Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.
Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the
port city of Corinto.
China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the
Boxer Rebellion.
Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed
after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American
War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.
Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the
Spanish-American War; the United States still
maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.
Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto
Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy
Puerto Rico today.
Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San
Juan del Sur.
Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the
battle for succession to the throne.
Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when
Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American
troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when
construction for the canal began.
Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a
revolution.
Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect
American interests during a revolution.
Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the
Russo-Japanese War.
Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.
Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate
was set up.
Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras` war
with Nicaragua.
Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama`s
election.
Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in
Bluefields and Corinto.
Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests during Honduras` civil war.
China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during
continuous flare-ups.
Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests in Havana.
Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama`s
election.
Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American
interests.
Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and
fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.
Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during
revolution.
Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over
Santo Domingo.
Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to
intervene against nationalists.
Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a
revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.
Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican
Republic for eight years.
Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for
16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.
World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe
to fight the Axis powers.
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern
Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five
landings.
Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras`
national elections.
Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two
weeks during a union strike.
Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.
China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during
a nationalist revolt.
Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a
national election.
Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general
strike.
China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for
seven years throughout China.
El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during
the FMLN revolt under Marti.
World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis
powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.
Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of
Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American
plane.
Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of
military force.
Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a
victory for the far right in national ``elections.``
Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the
Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.
Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war
against the Filipino Huk revolt.
Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an
independence rebellion in Ponce.
Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the
war.
Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of
democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah
to power.
Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to
the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the
Viet Minh.
Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the
democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas
in power.
Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners
after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.
Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of
Lebanon during its civil war.
Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians
demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.
Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.
Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions
failed to overthrow the Castro government.
Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the
Cuban Missile Crisis.
Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil
war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.
Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot
while protesting the United States presence in the
Canal Zone.
Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military
coup.
Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a
national election.
Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.
Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the
Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.
Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible
invasion into Iran.
Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside
during Laos` civil war.
Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing
President Allende who had been popularly elected. The
CIA helped to establish a military regime under
General Pinochet.
Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an
effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had
been seized.
Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels
fighting against Marxist Angola.
Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to
liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.
Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan
fighters.
El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers
aid in El Salvador`s war against the FMLN.
Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the
Contra War against the Sandinistas.
Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during
Lebanon`s civil war; 241 were killed in the American
barracks and Reagan ``redeployed`` the troops to the
Mediterranean.
Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases
near the Honduran border.
Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the
Maurice Bishop government.
Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian
planes over the Persian Gulf.
Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and
around the capital city of Tripoli.
Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops
on raids of cocaine areas.
Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the
side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.
Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.
Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest
among Virgin Island peoples.
Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for
government during coup.
Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in
overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama
civilians were killed.
Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate
foreigners during civil war.
Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi
Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against
Iraq.
Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back
Saddam Hussein.
Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during
civil war.
Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed ``no-fly zone``
during civil war in Yugoslavia.
Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a
blockade against Haiti`s military government. The CIA
restored Aristide to power.
Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus`
refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution
began.
Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of
foreigners.
Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a
pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas
components were manufactured.
Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged
Afghan terrorist training camps.
Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks
carried out by the United States in conjunction with
NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.
Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and
other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets
enforced ``no-fly zone`` and continued to hit Iraqi
targets since December 1998.
These * *100 * * instances of American military
intervention did not include times when the United
States:
(1) deployed military police overseas;
(2) mobilized the National Guard;
(3) sent Navy ships off the coast of numerous
countries as a show of strength;
(4) sent additional troops to areas where Americans
were already stationed;
(5) carried out covert actions where American forces
were not under the direct rule of an American command;
(6) used small hostage rescue units;
(7) used American pilots to fly foreign planes;
(8) carried out military training and advisory
programs which did not involve direct combat.
U. S. Government Assassination Plots
Following is a list of prominent foreign leaders whose assassination
(or planning for same) the United States has been involved in since
the end of Second World War. The list does not include several
assassinations in various parts of the world carried out by anti-Castro
Cubans employed by CIA and headquartered in the United States:
LIST A: NON MUSLIMS
1949 - KIm Koo, Korean opposition leader
1950`s - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in
West Germany
1955 - Jose` Antonio Remon, President of Panama
1950`s Chou En-lai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts
on his life
1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premiere of North Korea
1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader
1955 - Jawar Lal Nehru, Prime Minister of India
1959 and 1963 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia
1950s-70s - Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica,
two attempts on his life
1961 - Francois ``Papa Doc``Duvalier, leader of Haiti
1961 - Patrice Lumumba , Prime Minister of Congo (Zaire)
1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, more than
15 attempts on his life
1960s - Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba
1965 - Francisco Caamanao, Dominican Republic opposition leader
1965 - Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi
1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France
1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader
1970 - Salvadore Allende, President of Chile
1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile
1970s and 1981 - Gen. Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence
1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
1983 - Miguel d`Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
1984 - The nine commandantes of the Sandanista
National Directorate
1980`s - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist
assassinated by Mossad in Belgium.
Partial List of Muslim Leaders Assassinated or
Attempted Assassinations
1950`s Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
1960 Brigadier General, Abdul Karim Kassem, Leader of Iraq
1980-86 Muammar Qaddafi, Leader of Libya, several plots and
attempts upon his life
1982 Ayatullah Khomeini, Leader of Iran
1983 General Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan army Commander
1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadllallah, Lebanese Shiite Leader
(80 people killed in that attempt)
1991 Saddam Hussein, Leader of Iraq
Reference: Blum, William, ``KILLING HOPE - U.S. Military and
CIA Interventions Since World War II,`` Appendix III
U.S. Government Assassination Plots, page 453,
Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine 1995. ISBN 1-56751-052-3
Very likely Victims :
April 4, 1979 - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Leader of Pakistan, for pursuing making
of
Nuclear Bomb.
August, 1988. General Ziaul Haq, Military Leader of Pakistan.
1995 - Murtaza Bhutto, Son of ZUlfiqar Ali Bhutto, Anti-American
would-be Leader - Pakistan.
March 25, 1975 - King Faisal of Saudi Arabia through his Nephew, Saudi
Arabia
for imposing 1973 Oil Embargo.
August 24, 1999. Mullah Mohammad Omar, in Kandhar, Afghanistan.
|
``À``List of Known Assassination Plots
1950`s Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President
2001 Since early this year more than 40 Palestinian leaders assassinated
through surrogate Israel.
#93 Posted by saminashah on October 3, 2001 11:09:52 pm
Jawahara,
Good to see your posts. A quick word on ``Bijli``; he is a Chowk interactor that has 12 nicknames and maintains he has 12 different identities. Its a little too behuda for me, but be warned, speak to one, and the rest will swarm all over you like bats at twillight. It will become too bizarre.He refuses to express any reasonable behavior in this manner. The other designations are Aamir, Shah, Bapu, Deepika, Fatima, Faiza, Sadhna, Studebaker, Bhardwaj, Lajwanti and Brad Cruise.
This is a public service announcement. Thank you.
regards
Good to see your posts. A quick word on ``Bijli``; he is a Chowk interactor that has 12 nicknames and maintains he has 12 different identities. Its a little too behuda for me, but be warned, speak to one, and the rest will swarm all over you like bats at twillight. It will become too bizarre.He refuses to express any reasonable behavior in this manner. The other designations are Aamir, Shah, Bapu, Deepika, Fatima, Faiza, Sadhna, Studebaker, Bhardwaj, Lajwanti and Brad Cruise.
This is a public service announcement. Thank you.
regards
#92 Posted by jawahara on October 3, 2001 3:45:34 pm
Your new moniker, *Arrested Development * is totally apt, Bijli or whoever you are. Your development, if it ever began, is definitely arrested.
I could care less whether you agree with what I say or not. My job was to write it. Once it`s out of my hands, I can only clarify things. I can`t dictate that people have to like it. Oh, but you wouldn`t know that...freedom...an alien concept for you huh?
I could care less whether you agree with what I say or not. My job was to write it. Once it`s out of my hands, I can only clarify things. I can`t dictate that people have to like it. Oh, but you wouldn`t know that...freedom...an alien concept for you huh?
#91 Posted by Arrested Develo on October 3, 2001 3:28:41 pm
HANDS OFF ARAFAT – AND WITHDRAW : UN AND US tells Sharon.
Sharon may be trying to eliminate Arafat but the writing on the wall is that -- IT IS Sharon -- whose days are numbered.
Like Hitler, Mussolini, Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain -- every TORMENTOR of the people -- in a rising crescendo of VIOLENCE -- one day -- OVERPLAYS -- his HANDS -- and suddenly the world catches those HANDS -- and says NO MORE -- and BEATS those HANDS into pulp.
The blood soaked HANDS of that Butcher of Shattila and Sabra are -- in the process of -- OVERPLAY -- around Arafat`s compound -- those HANDS are heading for the chopping block.
The US supported 14-0 Security Council resolution ordering Israel to WITHDRAW -- is the FIRST warning SHOT.
As always like every TYRANT -- Sharon the Bulldozer is about to BULLDOZE the moral and political structure of Israel -- into the grounds of NAZI abominations.
IT IS TIME -- for that Likud’s APOLOGIST – the FIG LEAF -- Shimon Perez -- to jump off the TYRANT`S TITANIC.
Sharon may be trying to eliminate Arafat but the writing on the wall is that -- IT IS Sharon -- whose days are numbered.
Like Hitler, Mussolini, Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain -- every TORMENTOR of the people -- in a rising crescendo of VIOLENCE -- one day -- OVERPLAYS -- his HANDS -- and suddenly the world catches those HANDS -- and says NO MORE -- and BEATS those HANDS into pulp.
The blood soaked HANDS of that Butcher of Shattila and Sabra are -- in the process of -- OVERPLAY -- around Arafat`s compound -- those HANDS are heading for the chopping block.
The US supported 14-0 Security Council resolution ordering Israel to WITHDRAW -- is the FIRST warning SHOT.
As always like every TYRANT -- Sharon the Bulldozer is about to BULLDOZE the moral and political structure of Israel -- into the grounds of NAZI abominations.
IT IS TIME -- for that Likud’s APOLOGIST – the FIG LEAF -- Shimon Perez -- to jump off the TYRANT`S TITANIC.
#90 Posted by jawahara on October 3, 2001 3:28:41 pm
Yes, for all intents and purposes I am American, though I have disagreed with most of their foreign policies and overseas activities. I have taken a lot from this country and to be anything else is unacceptable, especially at this time. That does not mean that I will not continue to criticize its policies here and elsewhere.
Besides this was not written as a political commentary, it was my reaction to what happened. It was a reflection of my fears. Yes, we all know of things that happen elsewhere. This was my reaction to what happened *here *. Right or wrong, that is it.
I will not argue much with your criticism of this article. That is your right as a reader. However, I do take exception to your ``reaping the rewards`` statement. If the masterminds of September 11 had gone after military targets I would not have been this upset. You sign up for the military you sign up for risks.
But to suggest that people who showed up to work or the babies on the plane or anyone else who died, is helping reap the rewards is a barbaric and heartless statement. Yes, it happens elsewhere...that does not make it right. Period!
No-one...not here, not in Afghanistan or Chechnya (Kashmir is another case altogether that I will not get into here) or anywhere else in the world, deserves this terror and horror.
Cheers
Besides this was not written as a political commentary, it was my reaction to what happened. It was a reflection of my fears. Yes, we all know of things that happen elsewhere. This was my reaction to what happened *here *. Right or wrong, that is it.
I will not argue much with your criticism of this article. That is your right as a reader. However, I do take exception to your ``reaping the rewards`` statement. If the masterminds of September 11 had gone after military targets I would not have been this upset. You sign up for the military you sign up for risks.
But to suggest that people who showed up to work or the babies on the plane or anyone else who died, is helping reap the rewards is a barbaric and heartless statement. Yes, it happens elsewhere...that does not make it right. Period!
No-one...not here, not in Afghanistan or Chechnya (Kashmir is another case altogether that I will not get into here) or anywhere else in the world, deserves this terror and horror.
Cheers
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