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jagdeep #11:

...humari taraf say amma ko aadab aur pyar...aur oon say guzarish kijiaye kay hum sub ko apni du’aouN may yaad rakhaiN...

...you are so right...that pause was so meaningful...so pregnant...

...in the aftermath of the kamikaze attacks the desi diaspora in states is suddenly awakening and rediscovering their american loyalty...which is good to a point...one should always be grateful to the host country...but sooner or later one has to start wondering about the whys...otherwise we would always be susceptible to more such actions in future...that is all...

...arrogant AND unjust!...


MastRam #7:

...like your monicker...and no you are not being impertinent at all...

...bhai who said we live in a just world...(and no am not defending or qualifying anything)...dichotomy is another name for the times we live in...

...what altaf hussain did to karachites...what bezamir/brother sharipov did to the muhajirs through state appartchiks...what muslims did to the pandits in kashmir...what bal thackeray did to the mumbai muslims...moving on...chiapas...basque...mandino...irish...the talibaans to the afghan shias...the continuous ‘casticide’ in bihar...

...but...

...the dichotomy of the US Raj II overshadows and overwhelms all other dichotomies...it is contradictory to the american values...the greed of the ike’s ‘military-industrial complex’ has to be checked and put under control by the american public...and one way of doing so is to put their past and present policies more under the glare of public scrutiny and highlight their flaws...to usher in a slightly more just world...
...only by eliminating and diminishing the causes can we hope for a more just and peaceful world...otherwise as I said elsewhere...nobody... no power on earth can stop a determined person’s chosen path of (self) annihilation and destructive fury...no one...

Zafar Al-Talib #10:

...no...they never are...as a relief mechanism they are ok...but we must always express emotions AND...also do something about what gives rise to them...but you knew that already!...

regards,

temporal

Moving work; thank you.

My sentiments exaclty.

Re: jawahra

“Yes, Temporal I do understand your emotional response. Yes, I agree with America`s questionable conduct in the world and the myriad miseries of the world. This was just what I felt at the time, no analysis, no intellectualization, no reasoning. Just feeling.”

I live in UK. My mother had come to visit us from India. She is 84. She was not with me when this tragedy happened. I met her four days later. She started talking about this immediately on my arrival. She was clearly disturbed by this. She said that

“..I see those towers collapsing in my sleep. It is a terrible loss of life.. just think of those innocent people.. the rise of religious fundamentalism is a dangerous trend for the whole world …..”

then she paused for a few seconds and said “ …. The arrogant way the Americans have been behaving this sort of thing was bound to happen…”

I fully agree with your feelings but the writing lacks my mother’s pause of a few seconds which does not, in any way, reduce our abhorrence of terrorism but does help put things into perspective for future actions.

It has been said that the USA as a nation was forged into one in the blood and fire of the Civil War. The USA of today, a nation with far greater diversity than the USA of the 19th and most of the 20th centuries, has certainly been forged together again in the blood and fire in the tragic collapse of the World Trade Center.

Reply Temporal # 3

Emotion is not enough then, is it?

[[``I will go back to work in a tall building. I will fly. I will let life go on. I will live life. Because they might kill me and those I love, but they shall not own my life while I am still alive``]].....

Jawaraha,

That is so true.Life has to go on, and all the attatchments which come with it.This was a very brave thought .... we all needed a dose of it , as so many of us have been perturbed physically, mentally, emotionally and financially.

It is true that we face all sorts of problems of different magnitudes , and the solution is not to dwell on them, but rather to find a way to solve them .

``Baat itni si hai kehdey koi NaadaaNo sey,

Aadmee woh hee hai jo khela karey Toofaano sey ``.

Long Live and Happiness always,

love,

shirin

Re: temporal #3

You mentioned dichotomy of the west. Let me mention the dichotomy of middle east.

The late Hafez al-Assad has perhaps ordered the killings of many, many more Arabs than Ariel Sharon ever has or will. Yet one is the Lion of Damascus and the other, Butcher of Sabra and Shatila. The death of innocent Palestinians by Israeli sniper fire engenders a murderous and suicidal zeal, while their `elimination` by PLO and Tanzim barely registers in the consciousness of people ready to blow themselves up.

I hope I am not being too impertinent.

Regards

Yes, Temporal I do understand your emotional response. Yes, I agree with America`s questionable conduct in the world and the myriad miseries of the world. This was just what I felt at the time, no analysis, no intellectualization, no reasoning. Just feeling.:-)

Jawahara

Outstanding. I know the feeling. I will be flying in a couple of days and feel emotions that never bothered me before...

Jawahara:

Right on. You really said what I have been feeling. Reading this was an act of catharsis for me.

Thank you.

jawahara:

[...I will let life go on. I will live life. Because they might kill me and those I love, but they shall not own my life while I am still alive...]

...more power to you...mean it...i mean we can do two things in the aftermath...live with a new resolve or blank it out and live...this `we` is a qualified ‘we’...those of us lucky enough to be in north america...

...did I say lucky?...well that is subjective...but relatively we have it easier here...and whatever option we follow...we would live...till our allotted three score and ten or whatever...

...but I wish we would take a moment from our lives and visualize how the powero uno is perceived...rightly or wrongly in the world...and in this moment of introspection ALSO resolve to do something about changing that perception...or the edifices would continue to roll down in the face of injustice perpetrated...and no power on earth can stop the steely determination of one prepared to gamble away his/her life...and the blatant injustices will continue to clone hundreds of thousands of osamas...

...the dichotomy of the west...particularly the americans is appalling...the military dictator being wooed now merited five scornful hours last year...khair...that is nothing but real-politik...

read on...

...imagine you live in a twenty room house with your husband a child and member of his/your extended family...each room to one family...and in those twenty room...some rooms are off limit because they are forcibly occupied by the local goon...so to visit to the bathroom next door....day in and out ..you have to take the opposite path and go through a circuitous and longer route...and living in your own house you have to carry identifications papers...because to visit the bathroom you may have to pass through the goons check post...and of course you are imprisoned in that house...for years indefinitely...your source of income is erratic and depends on the generosity of the occupying goons...your freedom to breathe even is violated...UN’s declaration of human rights is only a glint in your eye...how you wish!...you have to suffer every moment of your existence...at the beck and mercy of the local goons backed by the almighty powero uno...hope is another dark forbidding four letter word...you cannot hope...simply not allowed...oh yes...you can throw stones...and hurl verbal abuses from the minaret against the goons...but there is no solace in that...it does not fill the empty bellies...does nor extinguish the anguish of the soul and mind...so one day you come to the reckoning that your life is meaningless...and if not for yourself...for the sake of others you should do something...anything with it...and reluctantly you decide to gamble...and hope for a better tomorrow...so you lit your life...to bring hope...yeah the four letter word...

(...as I was telling samina elsewhere....aren’t we like the coconut shell awashed in waves?...we drift...get deposited on shores...get pulled away and floated on other waves...submerging, riding, destination not known till we disintegrate...)

...it is this kind of a mindset jawahara that created the conditons worldwide whereby the US is almost universally perceived as the bigger partner against some people and some religion...

...if you want to stand tall...stand up to wrongs of the past...provide hope...an inkling of justice...and give hope to those who have no hope...

(this is my emotional response to yours...i know you would understand!)

love,

t

Jawahara, this was truly heart-touching and simply beautiful. You are right, life must go on, and it`s going on. Tomorrow awaits us all, even if we don`t care enough about it, due to our individual circumstances.

Regards,

Kiran

Jawahara, this was truly heart-touching and simply beautiful. You are right, life must go on, and it`s going on. Tomorrow awaits us all, even if we don`t care enough about it, due to our individual circumstances.

Regards,

Kiran