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Zeejah October 2, 2001
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#83 Posted by tahmed321 on October 5, 2001 12:56:12 pm
Zeejah #65 ``Please, please stop this spewing of poison... pakistanis as well as indians... you are all (presumably)educated, thinking ppl... the depts of crudity and vulgarity that some have reached in their remarks is sickening!!!
isnt there enuf hatred in the world today? ``
This is indeed sickening, and lately these posts which pollute the environment for everyone else have picked up (no doubt due to the excitement of the current crisis and the resulting impact on South Asian politics).
Chowk is becoming a depressing and moronic place to visit nowadays - either the Chowk editors will need to start intervening soon (unless all they care about is the number of posts which translate presumably into revenue), or else I think we will see Gresham`s Law in economics (``Bad Currency drives out Good Currency``) applied on chowk (``Bad Posters drive out Good Posters``). I dont see temporal around much any more although I know he always read your articles and was the first to comment, and shankar seems to have decided to go too. Too bad.
How is Peshawar like nowadays given that it is in the middle of things with this crisis? Hope things stay peaceful in Peshawar, and the Afghan refugees are able to go back to their homes. Life has been tough on these poor people.
isnt there enuf hatred in the world today? ``
This is indeed sickening, and lately these posts which pollute the environment for everyone else have picked up (no doubt due to the excitement of the current crisis and the resulting impact on South Asian politics).
Chowk is becoming a depressing and moronic place to visit nowadays - either the Chowk editors will need to start intervening soon (unless all they care about is the number of posts which translate presumably into revenue), or else I think we will see Gresham`s Law in economics (``Bad Currency drives out Good Currency``) applied on chowk (``Bad Posters drive out Good Posters``). I dont see temporal around much any more although I know he always read your articles and was the first to comment, and shankar seems to have decided to go too. Too bad.
How is Peshawar like nowadays given that it is in the middle of things with this crisis? Hope things stay peaceful in Peshawar, and the Afghan refugees are able to go back to their homes. Life has been tough on these poor people.
#82 Posted by Zahra on October 5, 2001 12:44:15 pm
Sac:
That was so very kind of you! It seems that you sat through all the programs and are still left in lurch - phir kya faida. Why are you suggesting something that left you so despondent even after reading/watching it?(post # whatever says it all)
By the way, the last time I interacted with you I thought you were he? I hope it still holds true. My concerns arise from reading your interest in Bahishti Zaewar. Why are you reading jewelry related stuff anyway? Men are not allowed to wear jewels. I can understand we all are going through a difficult phase but please do not go to that extreme. It will be very hard to read anything from you on zaewar:nose-pin, ear-ring, choker, choorian ... and other stuff. Please hold yourself before you go there. OK!
Best Wishes.
That was so very kind of you! It seems that you sat through all the programs and are still left in lurch - phir kya faida. Why are you suggesting something that left you so despondent even after reading/watching it?(post # whatever says it all)
By the way, the last time I interacted with you I thought you were he? I hope it still holds true. My concerns arise from reading your interest in Bahishti Zaewar. Why are you reading jewelry related stuff anyway? Men are not allowed to wear jewels. I can understand we all are going through a difficult phase but please do not go to that extreme. It will be very hard to read anything from you on zaewar:nose-pin, ear-ring, choker, choorian ... and other stuff. Please hold yourself before you go there. OK!
Best Wishes.
#81 Posted by sac on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
re Zahra #70:
Thanks. Here are some other upcoming events that you may find of great interest.
1)Starting next week, Joan Rivers will be doing a daily show based on readings from the Beheshti Zewar on the E! channel.
2)Richard Simmons is coming out with his brand new video titled ``Losing weight for burqa-clad lolitas in 15 mintues or less``. Guaranteed results or your libido back.
3)A brand new soap ``Trouble in Patoki Hospital`` starring ylh as the Jinnah-cap wearing doctor and sarwari as the ravishing nurse. RSaxena and scout play supporting roles.
Stay tuned for further updates.
Adaab arz hai
-sac
Thanks. Here are some other upcoming events that you may find of great interest.
1)Starting next week, Joan Rivers will be doing a daily show based on readings from the Beheshti Zewar on the E! channel.
2)Richard Simmons is coming out with his brand new video titled ``Losing weight for burqa-clad lolitas in 15 mintues or less``. Guaranteed results or your libido back.
3)A brand new soap ``Trouble in Patoki Hospital`` starring ylh as the Jinnah-cap wearing doctor and sarwari as the ravishing nurse. RSaxena and scout play supporting roles.
Stay tuned for further updates.
Adaab arz hai
-sac
#80 Posted by tahmed321 on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
Zahra #71 ``Who knows ? Who knows ? Who knows ?``
???? I must be writing too many posts on chowk, since I dont know what I said to elicit the above response.
???? I must be writing too many posts on chowk, since I dont know what I said to elicit the above response.
#79 Posted by scout on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
zeejah,
when u have the usual suspects on board, you can`t possibly think of having a decent discussion.
some people are so obsessed with pakistan.
when u have the usual suspects on board, you can`t possibly think of having a decent discussion.
some people are so obsessed with pakistan.
#78 Posted by jay on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
zeejah 60 something,
The only clear signs of hatred i can see on chowk are the articles trying to accomodate jihad. The dastardly tradition of the earlier times is to be dismissed as irrelevant, but the educated men and women of pakistan have come out from the cesspolls to defend, to reinterpret and to situate the vengeful tradition of the nomads.
This is the most hateful aspect of the chowk now, the unashamed actions of the allegedly educated, the millstone around their neck, the curse of the lifetime that what is in a book is to be defended at any cost. Some pakistanis do it on the chowk with words, the jihadic variety execute it in blood.
Posts criticising pakistan do no harm, they dont spread hatred, the defense of jihad is supporting a system them creates shaheens, the ones that seek death. In the book, suicide is a no no, but it extolls shaheens and asks them to seek death, and the only way this can be attained is killing others so that they are compelled to make the jihadist a sheen in self defence.
Zeejah, this is what you have to expose in case you are really against hatred, should be more so against killings.
For a change instead of writing about jihadic killings why cant you write about honour killings. no no that would be haram. If you are `educated`, look at the world out side, ask yourself, what authority o expertise you have to interpret the book when compared to maulana osama, maulana omar. Yor post and articles are that of an apologist for the jihadists.
The only clear signs of hatred i can see on chowk are the articles trying to accomodate jihad. The dastardly tradition of the earlier times is to be dismissed as irrelevant, but the educated men and women of pakistan have come out from the cesspolls to defend, to reinterpret and to situate the vengeful tradition of the nomads.
This is the most hateful aspect of the chowk now, the unashamed actions of the allegedly educated, the millstone around their neck, the curse of the lifetime that what is in a book is to be defended at any cost. Some pakistanis do it on the chowk with words, the jihadic variety execute it in blood.
Posts criticising pakistan do no harm, they dont spread hatred, the defense of jihad is supporting a system them creates shaheens, the ones that seek death. In the book, suicide is a no no, but it extolls shaheens and asks them to seek death, and the only way this can be attained is killing others so that they are compelled to make the jihadist a sheen in self defence.
Zeejah, this is what you have to expose in case you are really against hatred, should be more so against killings.
For a change instead of writing about jihadic killings why cant you write about honour killings. no no that would be haram. If you are `educated`, look at the world out side, ask yourself, what authority o expertise you have to interpret the book when compared to maulana osama, maulana omar. Yor post and articles are that of an apologist for the jihadists.
#77 Posted by Shah on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
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#76 Posted by rsaxena on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
Re: shah/bijli/fatimah/dog/etc. etc.
Do you have a genetic disorder which makes you post the same articles on every single board? Your harem of little madrassah boys not paying enough attention to you?
Do you have a genetic disorder which makes you post the same articles on every single board? Your harem of little madrassah boys not paying enough attention to you?
#75 Posted by rsaxena on October 5, 2001 11:58:30 am
Re: TAhmed
``Behind the pretense at laughter I sense two pathetic low-self esteemed individuals. Relax - soon all this will be over, Pakistan will be taken off the front covers of western papers, and you can start crowing about the Indian IT champions of the world again. If you dont, you too may join the totally gone case - jay thakeray - who pollutes chowk with his anti-pakistan hatred. I think the two of you are a little smarter than him.``
You seem to have been suffering from acute schizophrenia these days.
In any case, Stuka`s post, which, even though it cracked me up, was simply a remake of that inbred Ali`s original. Please direct your comments about ``pretense at laughter`` at him.
``Behind the pretense at laughter I sense two pathetic low-self esteemed individuals. Relax - soon all this will be over, Pakistan will be taken off the front covers of western papers, and you can start crowing about the Indian IT champions of the world again. If you dont, you too may join the totally gone case - jay thakeray - who pollutes chowk with his anti-pakistan hatred. I think the two of you are a little smarter than him.``
You seem to have been suffering from acute schizophrenia these days.
In any case, Stuka`s post, which, even though it cracked me up, was simply a remake of that inbred Ali`s original. Please direct your comments about ``pretense at laughter`` at him.
#74 Posted by tahmed321 on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
Stuka/Rsaxena: Behind the pretense at laughter I sense two pathetic low-self esteemed individuals. Relax - soon all this will be over, Pakistan will be taken off the front covers of western papers, and you can start crowing about the Indian IT champions of the world again. If you dont, you too may join the totally gone case - jay thakeray - who pollutes chowk with his anti-pakistan hatred. I think the two of you are a little smarter than him.
#73 Posted by jay on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
TRUTH ABOUT RUSSIAN AIRCRAS,
Gneral Ramair, pet name for Raman Iyer, the last hindu general of the apk army has again sent me this secret message.
First the indians tried the mock hijack, and they expected the maericans to respond immediately by bombing the tragets in pakistan. This faile misserably and they hatched the second plot.
The aircrafts usually fly in the great circle routes, that is the shortes distance on the globe ( please brush up the spherical trignometry if you dont understand). Clearly on a graet circle path from telaaviv to armenia, the black sea is so far. Obviously mosad has rerouted the plane so that it falls in the black sea, from where getting the wreckage is almost impossible.
Because it is a chrtered flight, no tickets are sold, the alleged people died could be just that.
On transcontinental flights, verticla separation of aircrafts is 5000 feet, with 10,000 feet lateral seperation. Anything less than that triggers the TCAS, trafic collition avoidance system. Another pilot is claiming that he saw the explosion, this a clear indication his eyesight is extrordinary, or that he has violated the norms, or he is a mosad agent like me.
It is inconceivable that a bomb was planted, despite the security in israel.
Like the indian hijack, and the kashmir car bomb, we demand proof, real proof, words of men who has faith. Everything else can be a fabrication.
Finally what is the proof that the plane actually went down with people on board. We demand live coverage, like the second one slamming into WTC. That is the kind of proof that the men uniform demand.
Gneral Ramair, pet name for Raman Iyer, the last hindu general of the apk army has again sent me this secret message.
First the indians tried the mock hijack, and they expected the maericans to respond immediately by bombing the tragets in pakistan. This faile misserably and they hatched the second plot.
The aircrafts usually fly in the great circle routes, that is the shortes distance on the globe ( please brush up the spherical trignometry if you dont understand). Clearly on a graet circle path from telaaviv to armenia, the black sea is so far. Obviously mosad has rerouted the plane so that it falls in the black sea, from where getting the wreckage is almost impossible.
Because it is a chrtered flight, no tickets are sold, the alleged people died could be just that.
On transcontinental flights, verticla separation of aircrafts is 5000 feet, with 10,000 feet lateral seperation. Anything less than that triggers the TCAS, trafic collition avoidance system. Another pilot is claiming that he saw the explosion, this a clear indication his eyesight is extrordinary, or that he has violated the norms, or he is a mosad agent like me.
It is inconceivable that a bomb was planted, despite the security in israel.
Like the indian hijack, and the kashmir car bomb, we demand proof, real proof, words of men who has faith. Everything else can be a fabrication.
Finally what is the proof that the plane actually went down with people on board. We demand live coverage, like the second one slamming into WTC. That is the kind of proof that the men uniform demand.
#72 Posted by pullu on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
freedom fighters of Kashmir, read on..
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=97840
And you thought the world didn`t know!!!!!
Pullu
#71 Posted by Deepika on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
If you want to be informed of BEHIND THE SCENE actions of FBI,CIA,MOSSAD,Counter TERRORISM,ASSASINATION without tear or blinking of eyes of the same grand presidents whom Jery Farwell & Pat Robertson bless with New & altered polluted BIBLE ,IN THE NAME OF GOD,whom shamless sinner ,in public crying for GOD -hypocrites
http://geocities.com/americanterrorism/
http://geocities.com/americanterrorism/
#70 Posted by pullu on October 4, 2001 11:13:11 pm
shah:
``chulu bhar paani mein....``
Dawn (along with BBC,CNN) had quoted Jaish as claiming responsibility. The next day it also
quoted Jaish as denying the same. I know you trust Jaishe more. Isn`t it what we are saying? 1962 hamein bhoola nahin hai. That is why you got what u deserved in `65 and `71. Par Miyan aap tho bilkul thethar ho gaye hain. Latkhor bhi.
In digression...
Hamare yahan tho bhai, bijli kadakti hai. Bijli akarti bhi hai aur garajti bhi, yeh hamein na maloom tha. Kripaya, apne vaigyanik jigyasa ko aur adhik jaagruk karein.
:) Anyway why don`t you leave it to bijli to identify herself. Aapki bijli aap par kehar dhaati hongi, hamareh yahan tho ghar ke pichhwade mein jugnu ki tareh timtimati paayee jati hai...Aksar.
Rahi baat urdu ki... as an independent enity I don`t hold it in very high esteem.
To me it is just persianised Hindi, like the sanskritised Hindi of BJP here.
The Hindi that is spoken by the aam janata here has a lot of persian,turkish (..et all)
words in it, clearly representing the melting pot that is India.
Try writing urdu in English with a few french, spanish and english words, may be you would have invented a new language(Uglish). Ofcourse all this if you get time away from Jihad.
thethar : somebody accustomed to being beaten and shoved around.
latkhor : a person who does not mind being kicked.
Stuka #62:
Bahut Achhey!! LOL..
Pullu
``chulu bhar paani mein....``
Dawn (along with BBC,CNN) had quoted Jaish as claiming responsibility. The next day it also
quoted Jaish as denying the same. I know you trust Jaishe more. Isn`t it what we are saying? 1962 hamein bhoola nahin hai. That is why you got what u deserved in `65 and `71. Par Miyan aap tho bilkul thethar ho gaye hain. Latkhor bhi.
In digression...
Hamare yahan tho bhai, bijli kadakti hai. Bijli akarti bhi hai aur garajti bhi, yeh hamein na maloom tha. Kripaya, apne vaigyanik jigyasa ko aur adhik jaagruk karein.
:) Anyway why don`t you leave it to bijli to identify herself. Aapki bijli aap par kehar dhaati hongi, hamareh yahan tho ghar ke pichhwade mein jugnu ki tareh timtimati paayee jati hai...Aksar.
Rahi baat urdu ki... as an independent enity I don`t hold it in very high esteem.
To me it is just persianised Hindi, like the sanskritised Hindi of BJP here.
The Hindi that is spoken by the aam janata here has a lot of persian,turkish (..et all)
words in it, clearly representing the melting pot that is India.
Try writing urdu in English with a few french, spanish and english words, may be you would have invented a new language(Uglish). Ofcourse all this if you get time away from Jihad.
thethar : somebody accustomed to being beaten and shoved around.
latkhor : a person who does not mind being kicked.
Stuka #62:
Bahut Achhey!! LOL..
Pullu
#69 Posted by RanaRansher on October 4, 2001 11:11:22 pm
Zeejah
``Please, please stop this spewing of poison... pakistanis as well as indians... you are all (presumably)educated, thinking ppl... the depts of crudity and vulgarity that some have reached in their remarks is sickening!!!
isnt there enuf hatred in the world today? ``
This is exactly what Jihad is today. YOu can do all the soul searching you want. The realitiy is Islamists believe the CAUSE justifies ANY MEANS. Well, the kafirs are finally waking up UNITING world wide to fight the Islamists. Doing a REVERSE AUTOMATIC JIHAD.
So Happy Jihad to you too.
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