Declaration of Jehad

Here is an interesting article. Please read.

http://www.timesofindia.com/articlelist.asp?catkey=-21289bullsht=enormous

Grateful India celebrates Powell`s statement

NILANJANA BHADURI JHA

NEW DELHI: Celebrations broke out and sweets were distributed in the streets of the capital after US Secretary of State Colin Powell denounced the ``terrible terrorist act that killed innocent civilians`` in Kashmir.

Foreign Secratary Chaptila Iyer told reporters that India was ``pleased`` and ``indebted`` for Powell`s kind words. ``We have been trying to draw the world`s attention towards Pakistan sponsored aatank-waad in different parts of India but we have been ignored so far``, she said.

Foreign Minister Bhadwant Singh sounded even more positive. ``Our coming generations will be grateful to Colin Powell``, he said. He also said that India has asked all of its states to provide 5000 kunwari kannhya (virgins) each for the American soldiers, if they ever decide to use the Indian bases and facilities. He said that we would have done ``more`` but for the precarious male/female ratio in the country`s population. In response to a question he said that we can always ``provide`` Shammi Kapoor and Prem Chopra if there is a battallion from San Francisco`s Castro district.

He contemptously dismissed a reported statement by Maulana Manhoos Azhar in which the Maulana had accused the Indians of being a nation of castrated eunuchs which was not willing to fight its own wars. ``He has been in our custody for 3 years and we have repeatedly checked his shalwar. He is a casarated eunuch himself``, Bhadwant Singh said. ``In fact both of us played eunuch-eunuch on our flight to Kandahar``, he recalled.

Bijli [ aka Jugnu ] aap phir aa gayein timtimaney.

There is no use talking peace when everything around you is exploding. Musharraf condemns terrorists but the world sees something else. Read any US paper and see the concerns of columnists in dealing with the double-edged sword that is Pakistan. There is a limit to everything. Everbody knows ISI`s role in promoting terrorism.

Stop kidding yourself!

The way YOU write, don`t remind me of ur sharafat and Urdu. By now we know - MORE action is needed. Just ``action``; you have already had it three+1 times!

Par laaton ke bhoot kab ....

Anyway continue to entertain yourself with name-calling and associated rhymes.

Pullu

RanaRansher #46,

Before you soil your pants, this might be of interest to you, read the capital letters:

``NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- A reported hijacking of a Boeing 737 with 52 passengers aboard turned out to be a FALSE ALARM, India`s civil aviation

minister said early Thursday.``

``NEW DELHI, India, Oct. 4 — The reported hijacking of a plane flying from Bombay to New Delhi was a false alarm, caused by an anonymous phone call and confusion in the aircraft’s cabin and cockpit, the government said Thursday...``

Very typical!Cannot get enough attention of the world. Cannot get enough attention from the US and are dying to divert the focus. Good Try!!!

#: 44

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The students ..............

The best thing for India is to cut off all diplomatic and any other relation with Pakistan. No more talks and no more candle lighting at Wagah.``]]



Pullu(PILOO)

Why babble in 420 unintelligible gibberish dilects of Indian so called regional languages

Whats stopping you Punk??

Go AHEAD,MAKE MY DAY U PUNK!!!Dont bother to communicate with us URDUDAAN,SHAREEF.by now u should know we only believe in ACTION not gibberish

Re: Ali

Your buddies in heera mandi must`ve forgotten to tell you about what the nation of 1 billion did to your great uncles and grandfathers in 1971.

90,000 of the helpless little rats peed in their shalwars and surrendered to the Indian army; the largest group of cowards to have ever attempted a war.

You think Pakistani phatakas have first-strike capability to get all of India? Which wet dream did you get that from? And you think there is no second strike capability in India? Is that the war planning Puki mullahs do in their madrassahs?

And don`t forget, while Chinese slapped Mooshraf and told him to stay home last week, Russians are right next door and wouldn`t hesitate shoving a nuke up Pakistan`s behind on India`s behalf.

More Happy Jihad to everyone. Another High-jacking. I hope you all enjoy this one too, as more Jihads come to a neighbourhood near you.

Now in the wake of all the current fiascos, what do we hear? Another Hijack! Where? In India. I just heard regarding the plane hijack from Bombay to Dilli or vice versa through a friend and then on CNN.

You`re right Zahra -- I believe it when I see it.

Till then it just may be the Afghani ``pipe`` dream.

The students of Jihad, the freedom fighters of Musharraf have done it once again. The Chief Minister weeps, the Prime Minister sends pleading letters begging attention, various political parties continue with their business.

But there is a bigger section of the country exhaling hot air. Tomorrow there will be more. Under the ashes, new words are taking birth - ``Once and for all``. Time and deeds catch up eventually. They will catch up with Pakistan too.

And when the day comes, there shall be no mistakes of the past. India is no

Iraq,Afghanistan or Pakistan. You can shout urself hoarse from a safe distance, you can send your gullible dreamers to the virgins,

but Kashmir isn`t going anywhere.

The best thing for India is to cut off all diplomatic and any other relation with Pakistan. No more talks and no more candle lighting at Wagah.

Pullu

The spate of articles ``explaining`` jehad are missing the bigger picture. Americans have never uptil now been exposed to Islam`s philosophy and teachings in any significant manner(black muslims notwithstanding). That may explain the somehat ambivalent attitudes the American public has about Muslims even after the tragedy. I have a feeling that the media attention the religion is getting now, will actually end up causing more harm to Islam than doing any good. There is such a wide chasm between Islam in theory and Islam in practice that to expect the ordinary American to be understanding is expecting way too much.

Expecting Americans to understand the intricacies of Jihad-bin-Nafs and Jihad-bis-saif is like expecting ordinary muslims to understand the difference between lent and Yom Kippur. Hell, even most Muslims would have a hard time differentiating between Shab-e-barat and Shab-e-mairaj....An overwhelming majority of non-Muslims will be turned off by the prevalence of so many uncivlized norms and practices in the Muslim world. For instance the ducumentary ``Under the Veil`` being shown repeatedly on CNN has already become a classic.

To give a personal example, a dear American friend of mine in his sixties walked over and asked me to explain the difference between Deobandies and Barelvis and how that is relevant to the present crisis. Needless to say, I didn`t have much information for him. Uptil that point I was under the impression that he simply had a passing knowledge of Islam. The WTC has caused millions to Americans like him to take a deeper look. I am not entirely sure they are going to like it.

later

-sac

What is the relevance of ``jehad`` if you are not riding a dromedary? And do not reply ``Dune``.

Thank you.

Nasah:

There is no bombshell in the news - it was pretty nice to hear about the pleasant transition. But that was ``assuming`` the Talibaans` elimination from sufhae`hasti.

Has that happened yet? Nope.
Would it be easy to do that? Nope.
How long would that take? Cannot be said.

It would be a very pleasant change on the map of Afghanistan. At least, someone will force the natives to come out of opium fields and realize the strength of spiritualism. It would not be that easy for any new government to gain the trust of the masses who are immensely shaken by what has been going on in their own homes, their lives and etc. This is not like changing the color of one`s lipstick or eye-make up. The wounds are much deeper and would require a leadership who can assist the masses in uplifting their spirits and regaining the trust. By the way, I must mention that silsalae` qadiriyaa`s followers are pretty devout in their practices.

Here is another bombshell:

Moderate may head new Afghan government

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Oct. 3 (UPI) -- Pir Syed Ahmed Gilani, a leading spiritual and political figure with liberal views, may head the new government that Afghanistan`s former king Mohammad Zahir Shah and his allies are trying to put together, Afghan officials said Wednesday.

Gilani, who heads the royalist National Islamic Front of Afghanistan, met the king in Rome Sunday while he was meeting a delegation of the opposition Northern Alliance.

He is believed to have urged the king not to allow any particular political or religious group to dominate the new government.

Commenting on a reported alliance between the former king and Afghanistan`s Northern Alliance, sources in his party said the king also was aware any government dominated by a particular group will not be acceptable to the Afghans in general. These comments, analysts said, reflected an awareness the alliance, made up of Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara minorities in Afghanistan, would not be able on its own to provide a durable government, which requires the participation of the Pashtuns who make up about 40 percent of the Afghan population and have dominated the country`s politics for more than two centuries.

The Northern Alliance, dominated by the minority ethnic Tajiks, cannot advance into Taliban controlled areas that are predominantly Pashtun. Pashtuns are the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan.

Gilani has a large following in the Pashtun areas in Afghanistan and also is related to the royal family, which also is Pashtun. He heads a prominent spiritual clan of the Sunni Muslims called the Gilanis, descendants of the founder of the Qadiri sufi order. Compared to the conservative clerics, the Gilanis, as is traditional with Sufis, have always been more receptive to liberal views and have opposed extremism.

Since he is a Syed -- that is one related to the Prophet Muhammad -- he will be acceptable to most ethnic and religious groups in Afghanistan.

Sidelined by the Taliban rulers after they captured Kabul in 1996, Gilani also has maintained good relations with the United States and Western nations.

Although he has been living in Pakistan since the Soviet invasion of 1979, Gilani has maintained close links with his followers in Afghanistan and with the former king, often visiting both.

Compared to the Northern Alliance, which has close relations with Pakistan`s rival India, Gilani will be more acceptable to Islamabad as well.(Washington Times)

Anybody who will let the Afghani girls ``to go to school`` is welcome to rule Afghanistan.

fawas79 #34 ``it sounds like it was written by a non muslim``

so if you disagree with someone`s viewpoint, you dont trouble yourself to explain why, you just declare him or her a non-muslim. how many morons like you are out there anyway??

I am posting an article by Rushdie below. Some of you might have already read it. He asks the questions I want to ask, the points I want to make --just much more eloquently.

NEW YORK -- In January 2000 I wrote in a newspaper column that ``the defining struggle of the new age would be between Terrorism and Security,`` and fretted that to live by the security experts` worst-case scenarios might be to surrender too many of our liberties to the invisible shadow-warriors of the secret world. Democracy requires visibility, I argued, and in the struggle between security and freedom we must always err on the side of freedom. On Tuesday, Sept. 11, however, the worst-case scenario came true.

They broke our city. I`m among the newest of New Yorkers, but even people who have never set foot in Manhattan have felt its wounds deeply, because New York is the beating heart of the visible world, tough-talking, spirit-dazzling, Walt Whitman`s ``city of orgies, walks and joys,`` his ``proud and passionate city -- mettlesome, mad, extravagant city!`` To this bright capital of the visible, the forces of invisibility have dealt a dreadful blow. No need to say how dreadful; we all saw it, are all changed by it. Now we must ensure that the wound is not mortal, that the world of what is seen triumphs over what is cloaked, what is perceptible only through the effects of its awful deeds.

In making free societies safe -- safer -- from terrorism, our civil liberties will inevitably be compromised. But in return for freedom`s partial erosion, we have a right to expect that our cities, water, planes and children really will be better protected than they have been. The West`s response to the Sept. 11 attacks will be judged in large measure by whether people begin to feel safe once again in their homes, their workplaces, their daily lives. This is the confidence we have lost, and must regain.

Next: the question of the counterattack. Yes, we must send our shadow-warriors against theirs, and hope that ours prevail. But this secret war alone cannot bring victory. We will also need a public, political and diplomatic offensive whose aim must be the early resolution of some of the world`s thorniest problems: above all the battle between Israel and the Palestinian people for space, dignity, recognition and survival. Better judgment will be required on all sides in future. No more Sudanese aspirin factories to be bombed, please. And now that wise American heads appear to have understood that it would be wrong to bomb the impoverished, oppressed Afghan people in retaliation for their tyrannous masters` misdeeds, they might apply that wisdom, retrospectively, to what was done to the impoverished, oppressed people of Iraq. It`s time to stop making enemies and start making friends.

To say this is in no way to join in the savaging of America by sections of the left that has been among the most unpleasant consequences of the terrorists` attacks on the United States. ``The problem with Americans is . . . `` -- ``What America needs to understand . . . `` There has been a lot of sanctimonious moral relativism around lately, usually prefaced by such phrases as these. A country which has just suffered the most devastating terrorist attack in history, a country in a state of deep mourning and horrible grief, is being told, heartlessly, that it is to blame for its own citizens` deaths. (``Did we deserve this, sir?`` a bewildered worker at ``ground zero`` asked a visiting British journalist recently. I find the grave courtesy of that ``sir`` quite astonishing.)

Let`s be clear about why this bien-pensant anti-American onslaught is such appalling rubbish. Terrorism is the murder of the innocent; this time, it was mass murder. To excuse such an atrocity by blaming U.S. government policies is to deny the basic idea of all morality: that individuals are responsible for their actions. Furthermore, terrorism is not the pursuit of legitimate complaints by illegitimate means. The terrorist wraps himself in the world`s grievances to cloak his true motives. Whatever the killers were trying to achieve, it seems improbable that building a better world was part of it.

The fundamentalist seeks to bring down a great deal more than buildings. Such people are against, to offer just a brief list, freedom of speech, a multi-party political system, universal adult suffrage, accountable government, Jews, homosexuals, women`s rights, pluralism, secularism, short skirts, dancing, beardlessness, evolution theory, sex. These are tyrants, not Muslims. (Islam is tough on suicides, who are doomed to repeat their deaths through all eternity. However, there needs to be a thorough examination, by Muslims everywhere, of why it is that the faith they love breeds so many violent mutant strains. If the West needs to understand its Unabombers and McVeighs, Islam needs to face up to its bin Ladens.) United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan has said that we should now define ourselves not only by what we are for but by what we are against. I would reverse that proposition, because in the present instance what we are against is a no-brainer. Suicidist assassins ram wide-bodied aircraft into the World Trade Center and Pentagon and kill thousands of people: um, I`m against that. But what are we for? What will we risk our lives to defend? Can we unanimously concur that all the items in the above list -- yes, even the short skirts and dancing -- are worth dying for?

The fundamentalist believes that we believe in nothing. In his world-view, he has his absolute certainties, while we are sunk in sybaritic indulgences. To prove him wrong, we must first know that he is wrong. We must agree on what matters: kissing in public places, bacon sandwiches, disagreement, cutting-edge fashion, literature, generosity, water, a more equitable distribution of the world`s resources, movies, music, freedom of thought, beauty, love. These will be our weapons. Not by making war but by the unafraid way we choose to live shall we defeat them.

How to defeat terrorism? Don`t be terrorized. Don`t let fear rule your life. Even if you are scared.

Salman Rushdie is a British novelist and essayist.

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