Declaration of Jehad

We seem to have much in common. Good article.

Sincerely Infidel NotAMullah

Yes the WORLD declares JEHAD against the god damned psychotic JIHADIS -- wherever they are -- in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Zeejah:

[Taken in its correct perspective, I therefore implore George Bush to declare Jehad against the Taliban government..... ]

Although jehad is not my favorite word but I agree with you about the need to put a humanitarian and civilized face lift to the cruel, medieval and obscurantist image of Islam as presented by Taliban. What you have concluded after quoting from Quran and tahmed321 often repeats after reading Quran, I am able to say the same things without spending time reading or quoting it. Is there any benefit to say basic human common sense after spending time in reading, translating and then understanding Quran?

Oh, by the way, if President Bush declares jehad against Taliban, Pakistani textbooks also need to consider using term jehad for Raja Dahir`s defense; also Rana Sanga, Rajputs, Gakkhars, Shivaji and many others who waged jehad against medieval invader.

Good to read your article. The Taliban are probably history even as we speak - although admittedly the news has not reached Mullah Omar who thinks the US soldiers wont have the courage to enter Afghanistan and take on his tough guys

:-).

The mullahs to worry about are our own. And to fix the madrassah system so that those who come out of it are capable of earning an honest living and are at peace with the world.

cnn news ``The Bush Administration is considering the recognition of a Palestinian state as it reviews its policies in the Middle East``

Maybe we will see the Arabs and Israelis stop fighting and start treating one another as human beings in our lifetimes!!

To a kafir it only means ONE THING ......
and that has been made clear over and over again.

#4

SAmeer Kumar

``[[....Oh, by the way, if President Bush declares jehad against Taliban, Pakistani textbooks also need to consider using term jehad for Raja Dahir`s defense; also Rana Sanga, Rajputs, Gakkhars, Shivaji and many others who waged jehad against medieval invader. ``]]`

Sameer Kumar,

DO YOU KNOW EVEN YOU ,WHO MIGHT CONSIDER HIMSELF ARYA SAMAJI WHO WAS RELUCTANTLY CONVERTED TO ISLAM,CAME AS INVADER & CORRUPTED THE TRUE DRAVIDIAN HINDUS, SUBJUGATING THEM WITH ARYAN CASTE SYSTEM NOT ORIGINAL IN HINDUISM.

BNP leading in Bangla polls

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- UNI

TAhmed

``Maybe we will see the Arabs and Israelis stop fighting and start treating one another as human beings in our lifetimes!! ``

Yes, and maybe UrsTruly will be smoking pot and philosophizing at a beach shack in Goa

and Maybe I will win the PowerBall..

TAhmed

``Maybe we will see the Arabs and Israelis stop fighting and start treating one another as human beings in our lifetimes!! ``

Yes, and maybe UrsTruly will be smoking pot and philosophizing at a beach shack in Goa

and Maybe I will win the PowerBall..

IS JEHAD ONE OF THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM?

Please correct me if I am wrong. The five pillars

of Islam are:

1. Declaration of faith (Kalma)

2. Prayers

3. Fasting

4. Zakat

5. Hajj

Taliban agree to local power-sharing

By Alex Spillius in Peshawar

October 2, 2001

The Telegraph (UK)

THE Taliban`s control of Afghanistan showed signs of faltering yesterday as it agreed to share power in three provinces in an attempt to block support for a transitional government headed by the former king Zahir Shah.

The decision to loosen the regime`s iron rule came as the radical movement`s leader admitted that it could be toppled and forced into fighting a guerrilla war by impending American military action.

According to a senior Taliban official, the movement`s supreme leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, consented to allow the elders in Khost, Paktia and Paktika into the ``government machinery``.

It is the first time the extremist militia has agreed to any form of power sharing in its seven-year drive to create a pure Islamic state.

There have been growing reports of discontent over the Taliban`s refusal to hand over Osama bin Laden.

For the past two years there have been reports of splits in the Taliban leadership over bin Laden, with hardliners who fully support him winning over those who wanted to make greater accommodation with the outside world.

According to Afghan exiles in neighbouring Pakistan, popular resentment has simmered for the past three years over up to 15,000 Arabs and other foreign militants recruited by bin Laden`s al-Qa`eda organisation living in eastern areas.

The fighters have been indispensable to the Taliban in its drive across the country. Many live with large families in special compounds, a situation that has created rancour: they are seen as a privileged minority.

Khost district is home to several suspected terrorist training camps and was the target for American cruise missile strikes in 1998, launched in revenge for two US embassy bombings in Africa.

``The Taliban`s popular support has declined because of the presence of foreign fighters,`` said Umer Daudzai, an Afghan and senior UN official living in Pakistan.

``Afghans don`t like foreign fighters on their soil, whether Muslim or not. Even in rural areas the Taliban`s support has declined in the past three years, what with drought, the poverty and effects of sanctions.``

The provinces in question are also Pathan, the same ethnic group as the Taliban, but are led by different tribes from the militia`s core leadership. They are traditionally more moderate and are home to past backers of the ex-king. Their tolerance of the militia is fast running out.

The Taliban`s authority was already slipping in the big cities. Hundreds of thousands of people fled in fear of American air attacks, despite being encouraged to stay and fight a ``holy war`` against the USA. Law and order has deteriorated, with UN offices being ransacked in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif.

Bureaucrats have deserted their jobs and fled to Pakistan, while the minister of justice reportedly attempted to escape but was recognised by Taliban police and turned back with his family.

Pakistan`s President Pervaiz Musharraf, when asked whether the regime`s days were numbered, said in an interview with the BBC: ``It appears so.`` He added: ``It appears that because of the stand of the Taliban that confrontation will take place.``

A delegation of Muslim clerics from Pakistan returned yesterday, having failed to persuade Mullah Omar to hand over bin Laden.

The Taliban leader, a veteran of the 1979-89 anti-Soviet struggle, told the nation in a radio address on Sunday that his followers would fight a guerrilla war if his ``Islamic Emirate`` were toppled.

``The government may collapse, but it will be the same as during the time of the jihad [holy war against the Soviet Union]. New fronts will be established, just like against the communists,`` he said on Radio Shariat [Islamic law].

``You may capture the airports and the capital and the cities, but people will go to the mountains. God willing, I believe that neither the US or their allies will be able to do anything. They will only find the same destiny as the communists.``

He also threatened death against the 86-year-old deposed king. ``Afghans should not fulfil the interests of the United States. If you pay no attention to Islam and God`s law, then your death will be allowed.``

His broadcast came shortly after the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan said that bin Laden was back under Taliban ``control``, but in a place that ``could not be located by anyone``.

With international support building for an alternative to the Taliban, and the military Northern Alliance growing in confidence, the likelihood is that Mullah Omar`s appeasement of the tribal elders will have to be followed by greater concessions.

Who grants the permission to fight the oppressor - Mohammed,Jesus or Krishna?

Who is the oppressor -Muslims led by Osama or Americans led by Bush, or the Indians

led by the idols? Why is the all powerful god afraid of the mute,harmless clay idols?

If Allah decides most of the important things, then whom does he convey it to?

With Prophet long dead, and any more prophets banned to exist, how does his message

reach the followers? Or has God written a timeless book when we ourselves are timebound?

There is so much confusion around, so much killing in the name of religion,

so much hatred; is God still satisfied with the books he once wrote!

With more than half the world illiterate, who reads those books and who interprets

them; who deciphers the encoded dogma? Does God really find utterance in the

fiery words of the mullah,pundit and the bishop?

Too many questions and the answer is silence..but ofcourse the sound of keyboards

around me. I have heard of the 10th incarnation- Kalki, I have heard similar

things from the Christians and Jews too {does Islam too say such a

thing....}. O` come, come and end all this mess you created in the name of love.

Let us start afresh.



Pullu

nasah...

or in India, kindly don`t forget the fantics there if you are doing justice to that term

nasah...

`...or in India`, kindly don`t forget the fantics there if you are doing justice to that term

SameerJB #4 ``Is there any benefit to say basic human common sense after spending time in reading, translating and then understanding Quran?``

You may not have any need, being honest in your dealings, tolerant of others viewpoints, capable of rational thought, trusting of your eyes and ears, unwilling to see anyone as being above you or below you or closer to God or further from God than you. Being all of the above, I am sure you have no need for the Quran (I am not being cynical here, since it is quite likely you are all of the above).

Others (and there are plenty of folks in Pakistan - either the venal ``elite``, or those concocting irrational theories, or those spreading hatreds, or those considering themselves superior to their sweepers) could do with some character building. The Quran can therefore be of some use.

Others, who are interested in some more basic questions - why are we here, what is the universe all about - can also benefit from it.

I rest my case.

Zeejah:

[No muslim woman will give her blessings to her son for a Jehad declared by the Taliban.]

This point has been on my mind for a while(in a different form though).

What is the reason for all this anarchy and chaos?

One may be: probably, it is the women who are doing a poor job in raising their sons. Probably, this is the time for the government to realize the importance of educating them(women) as well as putting a ban on more than one male baby in a family. I am serious! This has to be looked into for the good of the country!!!

[Their government treats women as non-people at best, and second class human beings in general.]

What I have seen from my very own eyes in a documentary, ``Beneath the Veil`` by Sairah Saeed, played at least ten times on all the channels - is soemthing much worse than your above statement. In fact, I have never been more shocked in my life to understand and realize the mindframe of these sickos. I mean, if you think about this whole buk buk known as Talibaans, they are not observing any principles, as identified in Islam for all human beings. How can they claim to be the defenders of Islam when they are completely ignoring/neglecting the rights of those who are in their own jurisdiction?

I am also surprised that we do not have a lot of doctors/psychologists/neurologists commenting on this disaster. The fact that many hijackers were found dead drunk, a couple of days prior to this disaster, and then the fact that many soldiers who are in this damn Talibaan government are fed heroine, hasheesh, opium in all forms says something. How can a man function well when he is made to rely on ``something`` that can topple his nervous system? Well, any ``man`` who is into drugs should be properly punished under any law. I was watching a documentary where some afghans spoke how they fought under different kinds of hasheesh. I mean, this is so damn obvious that these people(afeemis) are consuming some sort of drugs that can even limit their own thinking faculties. How the hell can these men create any courts? mujlis-ae-shoora? how is this possible? I am amazed that the religious clerics have not commented on this aspect.

Currently, the government is under a lot of stress due to the refugees`influx, but they have to implement some steps for the health and life of their own people by putting a ban on this laa`nut know as afeem, hasheesh and other by-products of opium. I have been a resident adviser during my graduate studies without knowing the ins-and-outs of drugs. But I did come across a few residents mostly basket-ball players who were into drugs and the sophisticated measures they would take to clean and clear any remains. Interestingly, it`s very easy to detect a person when he/she is under drugs. Or probably, we were taught to look into the symptoms. Whatever. I have a very hard time imagining how the big cities in NWFP and Baluchistan are functioning under this curse of drugs. This is so damn sad and pathetic that the country needs to request the educated, learned and sane individuals to come out and assist as social reformers. This is the best opportunity for social workers with some sumujh boojh to come out and assist. Sitting so far away, suggesting what I am suggesting should not indicate that the natives are ignorants or are not doing great work to keep the country alive and running but ...

``If to do were as easy as to know what were good to do, chapels had been churches, and poor men`s cottages princes` palaces.`` [I have forgotten where I read it :( Probably, Oscar Wilde]

Quetta, a city under a lot of limelight nowadays, is being shown so many times as a den of druggies with drug-alleys. I have never ever been to Baluchistan, but have heard very nice things about Ziyarat and Quetta both. And it is very sad how this opium`s curse is drowning the land. There should be a Jehad movement against this curse known as drugs/alcohol.

I am reminded of the conversation between Hazrat Moosa(ILH)and Allah Taala. In fact, it has been coming back to me again and again. Specially the conversation when the lizard and human being`s existance was challenged by the prophet and the lizard respectively. Interestingly, the rationale explained said a lot - if one remembers.