Declaration of Jehad

Re: Stuka #62

Hah, that`s hilarious.

Did i not say TERRORISM linked with U.S. Foreign POLICY ?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/011004/6/bfeo.html



Women must work to temper U.S. `cowboy` response to terror crisis, says group

By STEPHEN THORNE



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OTTAWA (CP) - Canadian women should focus on tempering America`s ``cowboy-inspired`` response to the terrorist attacks in the U.S. and push for justice through the courts, a major women`s group said Thursday.

The Canadian Women`s March Committee also defended the right of Sunera Thobani, a well-known feminist, to make a controversial link between the attacks and U.S. foreign policy. Thobani, former head of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women, told a conference on Tuesday that Canadian women should not be coerced into supporting a U.S. foreign policy that is ``soaked in blood.``

The March Committee emphasized that women have more pressing issues to address than blame.

``War is not the answer to the atrocious crime against humanity committed on Sept. 11, 2001,`` said the group, which says it represents a majority of women`s organizations across Canada.

NAC vice-president Denise Andrea Campbell said Thursday that Thobani broadened discussion on the issue and put some context to the attacks.

``We really support her right - and, actually, all Canadians` right - to ask: why is this happening?`` Campbell told a news conference.

``But on behalf of women across the country . . . we are certainly more interested in looking at the immediate issue at hand, which is: how do we respond to what has happened?``

The committee opposes what it calls U.S. President George W. Bush`s ``vengeful and war-mongering response`` to the attacks. It says the world should follow United Nations guidelines and seek justice in courts of law.

``We expect our governments to lead through compassion, justice and respect for the dignity of all people,`` said the committee declaration.

There is no justification for a full-scale military response to the attacks under UN-defined grounds of self-defence, said Andree Cote, director of law reform at the National Association of Women and the Law.

``It`s so very dangerous in times like this to have unilateral, cowboy-inspired actions that will create possibly a lot of deaths of innocent civilians and international unrest,`` said Cote.

Thobani, a women`s studies professor at University of British Columbia, called the United States ``the most dangerous and the most powerful global force unleashing horrific levels of violence`` in the world today.

Her remarks were condemned by politicians and others as outrageous.

Cote said the reaction to Thobani`s statements has been more troubling than the statements themselves.

``I think this is one of the reasons that we`re opposing war,`` said Cote.

``It creates a climate of intolerance; it creates a climate where basic civil liberties can be violated, where basic freedom of expression is put in jeopardy. We`re very worried by this type of thing.``

She said media and other responses to Thobani`s speech harkened back to the 1950s era of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, who conducted a witchhunt for phantom communists, destroying many innocent lives in the process.

``We want to have a democratic discussion on how to solve this horrible crisis,`` said Cote.

Campbell described Canada`s response so far as an encouraging reinforcement of the country`s traditional values of humanitarianism and peace.

Sac:

Kindly route your friend to the following show. In fact, sit with him and address his questions that may arise from the following session. That way you yourself will feel great[cannot guarantee though]. I sensed some despondency in your post and thought of referring you to the following site/program.

Good Luck!
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Tahmed:

Who knows ? Who knows ? Who knows ?
:)

Zeejah
``Please, please stop this spewing of poison... pakistanis as well as indians... you are all (presumably)educated, thinking ppl... the depts of crudity and vulgarity that some have reached in their remarks is sickening!!!

isnt there enuf hatred in the world today? ``

This is exactly what Jihad is today. YOu can do all the soul searching you want. The realitiy is Islamists believe the CAUSE justifies ANY MEANS. Well, the kafirs are finally waking up UNITING world wide to fight the Islamists. Doing a REVERSE AUTOMATIC JIHAD.
So Happy Jihad to you too.

shah:

``chulu bhar paani mein....``

Dawn (along with BBC,CNN) had quoted Jaish as claiming responsibility. The next day it also

quoted Jaish as denying the same. I know you trust Jaishe more. Isn`t it what we are saying? 1962 hamein bhoola nahin hai. That is why you got what u deserved in `65 and `71. Par Miyan aap tho bilkul thethar ho gaye hain. Latkhor bhi.

In digression...

Hamare yahan tho bhai, bijli kadakti hai. Bijli akarti bhi hai aur garajti bhi, yeh hamein na maloom tha. Kripaya, apne vaigyanik jigyasa ko aur adhik jaagruk karein.

:) Anyway why don`t you leave it to bijli to identify herself. Aapki bijli aap par kehar dhaati hongi, hamareh yahan tho ghar ke pichhwade mein jugnu ki tareh timtimati paayee jati hai...Aksar.

Rahi baat urdu ki... as an independent enity I don`t hold it in very high esteem.

To me it is just persianised Hindi, like the sanskritised Hindi of BJP here.

The Hindi that is spoken by the aam janata here has a lot of persian,turkish (..et all)

words in it, clearly representing the melting pot that is India.

Try writing urdu in English with a few french, spanish and english words, may be you would have invented a new language(Uglish). Ofcourse all this if you get time away from Jihad.

thethar : somebody accustomed to being beaten and shoved around.

latkhor : a person who does not mind being kicked.

Stuka #62:

Bahut Achhey!! LOL..

Pullu

If you want to be informed of BEHIND THE SCENE actions of FBI,CIA,MOSSAD,Counter TERRORISM,ASSASINATION without tear or blinking of eyes of the same grand presidents whom Jery Farwell & Pat Robertson bless with New & altered polluted BIBLE ,IN THE NAME OF GOD,whom shamless sinner ,in public crying for GOD -hypocrites

http://geocities.com/americanterrorism/

http://geocities.com/americanterrorism/

freedom fighters of Kashmir, read on..

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=97840

And you thought the world didn`t know!!!!!

Pullu

TRUTH ABOUT RUSSIAN AIRCRAS,

Gneral Ramair, pet name for Raman Iyer, the last hindu general of the apk army has again sent me this secret message.

First the indians tried the mock hijack, and they expected the maericans to respond immediately by bombing the tragets in pakistan. This faile misserably and they hatched the second plot.

The aircrafts usually fly in the great circle routes, that is the shortes distance on the globe ( please brush up the spherical trignometry if you dont understand). Clearly on a graet circle path from telaaviv to armenia, the black sea is so far. Obviously mosad has rerouted the plane so that it falls in the black sea, from where getting the wreckage is almost impossible.

Because it is a chrtered flight, no tickets are sold, the alleged people died could be just that.

On transcontinental flights, verticla separation of aircrafts is 5000 feet, with 10,000 feet lateral seperation. Anything less than that triggers the TCAS, trafic collition avoidance system. Another pilot is claiming that he saw the explosion, this a clear indication his eyesight is extrordinary, or that he has violated the norms, or he is a mosad agent like me.

It is inconceivable that a bomb was planted, despite the security in israel.

Like the indian hijack, and the kashmir car bomb, we demand proof, real proof, words of men who has faith. Everything else can be a fabrication.

Finally what is the proof that the plane actually went down with people on board. We demand live coverage, like the second one slamming into WTC. That is the kind of proof that the men uniform demand.

Stuka/Rsaxena: Behind the pretense at laughter I sense two pathetic low-self esteemed individuals. Relax - soon all this will be over, Pakistan will be taken off the front covers of western papers, and you can start crowing about the Indian IT champions of the world again. If you dont, you too may join the totally gone case - jay thakeray - who pollutes chowk with his anti-pakistan hatred. I think the two of you are a little smarter than him.

Re: TAhmed

``Behind the pretense at laughter I sense two pathetic low-self esteemed individuals. Relax - soon all this will be over, Pakistan will be taken off the front covers of western papers, and you can start crowing about the Indian IT champions of the world again. If you dont, you too may join the totally gone case - jay thakeray - who pollutes chowk with his anti-pakistan hatred. I think the two of you are a little smarter than him.``

You seem to have been suffering from acute schizophrenia these days.

In any case, Stuka`s post, which, even though it cracked me up, was simply a remake of that inbred Ali`s original. Please direct your comments about ``pretense at laughter`` at him.

Re: shah/bijli/fatimah/dog/etc. etc.

Do you have a genetic disorder which makes you post the same articles on every single board? Your harem of little madrassah boys not paying enough attention to you?

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zeejah 60 something,

The only clear signs of hatred i can see on chowk are the articles trying to accomodate jihad. The dastardly tradition of the earlier times is to be dismissed as irrelevant, but the educated men and women of pakistan have come out from the cesspolls to defend, to reinterpret and to situate the vengeful tradition of the nomads.

This is the most hateful aspect of the chowk now, the unashamed actions of the allegedly educated, the millstone around their neck, the curse of the lifetime that what is in a book is to be defended at any cost. Some pakistanis do it on the chowk with words, the jihadic variety execute it in blood.

Posts criticising pakistan do no harm, they dont spread hatred, the defense of jihad is supporting a system them creates shaheens, the ones that seek death. In the book, suicide is a no no, but it extolls shaheens and asks them to seek death, and the only way this can be attained is killing others so that they are compelled to make the jihadist a sheen in self defence.

Zeejah, this is what you have to expose in case you are really against hatred, should be more so against killings.

For a change instead of writing about jihadic killings why cant you write about honour killings. no no that would be haram. If you are `educated`, look at the world out side, ask yourself, what authority o expertise you have to interpret the book when compared to maulana osama, maulana omar. Yor post and articles are that of an apologist for the jihadists.

zeejah,

when u have the usual suspects on board, you can`t possibly think of having a decent discussion.

some people are so obsessed with pakistan.

Zahra #71 ``Who knows ? Who knows ? Who knows ?``

???? I must be writing too many posts on chowk, since I dont know what I said to elicit the above response.