Shandana Minhas October 21, 2001
#104 Posted by sarwar on December 6, 2001 1:28:19 am
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#102 Posted by tahmed321 on October 29, 2001 9:50:55 am
harimau #100 I am glad we are now talking at your level. Jackass.
#101 Posted by harimau on October 29, 2001 1:32:33 am
Ref tahmed321 #: 76
[Gowardhan: I understand the Head-Lice Killing powder is on sale. Run and get it, and ask Jay or Harimou to mind your duty station at the Hindutva Morons Chowk Corner.]
How is the Friday Evening Circle Jerk at the local mosque coming along? Got enough participants? Urstruly wants to be a member of the club.
[Gowardhan: I understand the Head-Lice Killing powder is on sale. Run and get it, and ask Jay or Harimou to mind your duty station at the Hindutva Morons Chowk Corner.]
How is the Friday Evening Circle Jerk at the local mosque coming along? Got enough participants? Urstruly wants to be a member of the club.
#100 Posted by scout on October 28, 2001 3:08:22 pm
suxena #83,
I wasn`t talking to you, so just shush up and go braid your hair.
I wasn`t talking to you, so just shush up and go braid your hair.
#99 Posted by Bijli on October 28, 2001 4:33:40 am
#96
SMP
``2. Indian intelligence ``
I like the best lol he he he he
SMP
``2. Indian intelligence ``
I like the best lol he he he he
#98 Posted by AAmir on October 27, 2001 10:25:18 am
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#97 Posted by semipreciousme on October 27, 2001 10:25:18 am
thefridaytimes.com
TOP TEN CURRENT OXYMORONS:
10. Friendly troops
9. Silent majority
8. Taliban moderates
7. Humanitarian aid
6. Military control
5. Stable Afghan government
4. Mid-East peace
3. American diplomacy
2. Indian intelligence
1. Front-line reporting (as in: in front of the Marriott)
TOP TEN CURRENT OXYMORONS:
10. Friendly troops
9. Silent majority
8. Taliban moderates
7. Humanitarian aid
6. Military control
5. Stable Afghan government
4. Mid-East peace
3. American diplomacy
2. Indian intelligence
1. Front-line reporting (as in: in front of the Marriott)
#96 Posted by semipreciousme on October 27, 2001 10:25:18 am
http://www.melvindurai.com/freespeech.htm
FREEDOM OF SPEECH TAKES A BEATING
While growing up in Zambia in the 1970s, I learned that it
was generally safer to kick a lion in a game park than to
criticize the president in public. Nothing but praise was
heaped on then-President Kenneth Kaunda, a man of such
integrity that he refused to be a dictator, insisting
instead on regular elections in which he would run -- with
amazing success -- against himself.
The suspense on election night was incredible. Would Kaunda
win again? Or would he lose to Kaunda? It was always too
close to call.
Despite the sham democracy, people were reluctant to
complain. They didn`t want their names transferred from the
voters list to the missing persons list.
The political climate has improved considerably in the
Central African nation, but I`d be surprised if Zambians can
speak their minds as freely as Americans. Few countries can
match the freedom of speech in America, where making fun of
the president isn`t just permitted, it`s highly recommended.
A virtual sport.
If there`s one thing Americans are always eager to share
with each other, it`s a Clinton or Bush joke. Even children
have fun with presidential jokes: ``Why did President Bush
panic when he spotted several ants walking across his desk?
Because he had heard about the ant tracks scare.``
As a writer and humorist, I cherish freedom of speech. It
allows me to express my views freely without worrying that I
might get in trouble with the government or, even worse,
with my wife.
Freedom of speech is one of America`s greatest virtues, but
it`s not quite as unfettered as I once thought. In the
aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, at least a
handful of Americans have been chastised for expressing
dissenting views. If you can`t bleed red, white and blue,
they`ve been told, go bleed somewhere else.
Seven television stations dropped the late night talk show
``Politically Incorrect`` after host Bill Maher decided to be
a little too politically incorrect. The comedian called past
U.S. missile attacks ``cowardly,`` a comment that some viewers
found politically insulting.
Maher later apologized, but to regain those seven stations,
he may have to change the name of his show to ``Politically
Innocuous.``
At least Maher kept his job. Columnists at two daily
newspapers were fired for criticizing Bush`s handling of the
terrorist attacks. The publisher of one of the papers tried
to appease readers by writing an opinion piece titled,
``Bush`s leadership has been superb.`` Ah, American journalism
at its finest.
On Sept. 10, Bush was fair game for ridicule; on Sept. 11,
he was Saint George the exalted one. Ready to slay Osama the
dragon.
Even colleges, traditionally a wellspring of debate, have
clamped down on errant voices. A library assistant at the
University of California at Los Angeles earned a five-day
suspension without pay for sending an email on a university
computer criticizing America`s support of Israel. He had
apparently forgotten to read the rules, which clearly state
that university computers are to be used for pro-Israel
purposes only.
A University of New Mexico professor received threats after
saying, on Sept. 11, ``Anyone who can blow up the Pentagon
has my vote.`` He has since apologized for being a ``jerk,``
noting that the U.S. Constitution`s guarantee of free speech
protects his ``right to be a jerk.`` He didn`t lose his job,
probably because he`s a tenured jerk.
Of course, the First Amendment to the Constitution forbids
only government interference in a person`s right to free
speech. Employers and others can apparently interfere all
they want.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH TAKES A BEATING
While growing up in Zambia in the 1970s, I learned that it
was generally safer to kick a lion in a game park than to
criticize the president in public. Nothing but praise was
heaped on then-President Kenneth Kaunda, a man of such
integrity that he refused to be a dictator, insisting
instead on regular elections in which he would run -- with
amazing success -- against himself.
The suspense on election night was incredible. Would Kaunda
win again? Or would he lose to Kaunda? It was always too
close to call.
Despite the sham democracy, people were reluctant to
complain. They didn`t want their names transferred from the
voters list to the missing persons list.
The political climate has improved considerably in the
Central African nation, but I`d be surprised if Zambians can
speak their minds as freely as Americans. Few countries can
match the freedom of speech in America, where making fun of
the president isn`t just permitted, it`s highly recommended.
A virtual sport.
If there`s one thing Americans are always eager to share
with each other, it`s a Clinton or Bush joke. Even children
have fun with presidential jokes: ``Why did President Bush
panic when he spotted several ants walking across his desk?
Because he had heard about the ant tracks scare.``
As a writer and humorist, I cherish freedom of speech. It
allows me to express my views freely without worrying that I
might get in trouble with the government or, even worse,
with my wife.
Freedom of speech is one of America`s greatest virtues, but
it`s not quite as unfettered as I once thought. In the
aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, at least a
handful of Americans have been chastised for expressing
dissenting views. If you can`t bleed red, white and blue,
they`ve been told, go bleed somewhere else.
Seven television stations dropped the late night talk show
``Politically Incorrect`` after host Bill Maher decided to be
a little too politically incorrect. The comedian called past
U.S. missile attacks ``cowardly,`` a comment that some viewers
found politically insulting.
Maher later apologized, but to regain those seven stations,
he may have to change the name of his show to ``Politically
Innocuous.``
At least Maher kept his job. Columnists at two daily
newspapers were fired for criticizing Bush`s handling of the
terrorist attacks. The publisher of one of the papers tried
to appease readers by writing an opinion piece titled,
``Bush`s leadership has been superb.`` Ah, American journalism
at its finest.
On Sept. 10, Bush was fair game for ridicule; on Sept. 11,
he was Saint George the exalted one. Ready to slay Osama the
dragon.
Even colleges, traditionally a wellspring of debate, have
clamped down on errant voices. A library assistant at the
University of California at Los Angeles earned a five-day
suspension without pay for sending an email on a university
computer criticizing America`s support of Israel. He had
apparently forgotten to read the rules, which clearly state
that university computers are to be used for pro-Israel
purposes only.
A University of New Mexico professor received threats after
saying, on Sept. 11, ``Anyone who can blow up the Pentagon
has my vote.`` He has since apologized for being a ``jerk,``
noting that the U.S. Constitution`s guarantee of free speech
protects his ``right to be a jerk.`` He didn`t lose his job,
probably because he`s a tenured jerk.
Of course, the First Amendment to the Constitution forbids
only government interference in a person`s right to free
speech. Employers and others can apparently interfere all
they want.
#94 Posted by semipreciousme on October 26, 2001 9:27:00 am
Bijli:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/oct/24spec.htm
“The penniless widow faced stiff opposition from the girl`s in-laws who refused to take Janaki back if she kept her babies. Yet, she refused to budge. After Janaki`s delivery in hospital, Chinnathayee brought the babies to her hut by bus, carrying them in a cloth market bag. She raised them till Janaki`s in-laws gave in and took her back. In Salem, Chungat took me to the house of Vijaya, a petty shopkeeper, who kept her fourth daughter after watching a street play on the evils of infanticide. At the Dharmapuri guesthouse where we were staying, many women came to proudly display the girl babies they had kept after seeing the plays organised under a Danida project. I also met Sarojini, a nurse who had saved hundreds of children in the villages where she had worked for over 15…”
…what is happening is sickening but as long as there are people like these women, there’s always hope…
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/oct/24spec.htm
“The penniless widow faced stiff opposition from the girl`s in-laws who refused to take Janaki back if she kept her babies. Yet, she refused to budge. After Janaki`s delivery in hospital, Chinnathayee brought the babies to her hut by bus, carrying them in a cloth market bag. She raised them till Janaki`s in-laws gave in and took her back. In Salem, Chungat took me to the house of Vijaya, a petty shopkeeper, who kept her fourth daughter after watching a street play on the evils of infanticide. At the Dharmapuri guesthouse where we were staying, many women came to proudly display the girl babies they had kept after seeing the plays organised under a Danida project. I also met Sarojini, a nurse who had saved hundreds of children in the villages where she had worked for over 15…”
…what is happening is sickening but as long as there are people like these women, there’s always hope…
#93 Posted by Romair on October 26, 2001 12:10:44 am
Interesting article from Dr. Salman Shah on the posssibilities for the Pakistan economy, after Sep 11. I think Salman Shah is on the LUMS faculty.
``Many people don`t seem to realize that Pakistan`s economy is highly integrated in the world economy. Exports constitute roughly 17 percent of our GDP and imports are equivalent to another 19 percent of GDP. Thus external trade is around 35 percent of GDP. This is a much higher proportion than other countries like India....
If we don`t shoot ourselves in the foot, we can look forward to an era of great economic growth over the next decade or two. Growth, that can finally put us over the hump of grinding poverty and despair forever. I see this opportunity developing in phases over the next ten to fifteen years.......
The first impacts are already visible in the shape of rising value of the rupee, a bullish stock market and slight improvement in the real estate markets of the country. If this amount becomes a permanent feature of Pakistan`s external inflows, our persistent balance of payments shortfalls would effectively be over. For the first time the country would be in a position to provide external finances for its development program without external borrowing.
.....
If quota restrictions are removed and duties are eliminated it should not be difficult to double our exports in the next three years. This will add three to four percent to our economic growth rate and push the overall rate beyond six to seven percent. The added employment and wealth creation would have a secondary impact on domestic demand and the long drawn out economic stagnation will come to an end.
In the longer term timeframe of three to ten years, reconstruction of Afghanistan and opening up of oil and gas development in Central Asia will be an unparalleled opportunity for Pakistan. (complete article at http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/opi6.htm)
``Many people don`t seem to realize that Pakistan`s economy is highly integrated in the world economy. Exports constitute roughly 17 percent of our GDP and imports are equivalent to another 19 percent of GDP. Thus external trade is around 35 percent of GDP. This is a much higher proportion than other countries like India....
If we don`t shoot ourselves in the foot, we can look forward to an era of great economic growth over the next decade or two. Growth, that can finally put us over the hump of grinding poverty and despair forever. I see this opportunity developing in phases over the next ten to fifteen years.......
The first impacts are already visible in the shape of rising value of the rupee, a bullish stock market and slight improvement in the real estate markets of the country. If this amount becomes a permanent feature of Pakistan`s external inflows, our persistent balance of payments shortfalls would effectively be over. For the first time the country would be in a position to provide external finances for its development program without external borrowing.
.....
If quota restrictions are removed and duties are eliminated it should not be difficult to double our exports in the next three years. This will add three to four percent to our economic growth rate and push the overall rate beyond six to seven percent. The added employment and wealth creation would have a secondary impact on domestic demand and the long drawn out economic stagnation will come to an end.
In the longer term timeframe of three to ten years, reconstruction of Afghanistan and opening up of oil and gas development in Central Asia will be an unparalleled opportunity for Pakistan. (complete article at http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/opi6.htm)
#91 Posted by Gowardhan on October 26, 2001 12:10:44 am
shah 87
We try to solve Indian womens child birth problems. You try to get rid of obscurantism, ignorance and hatred in Pakistani Islam. Deal?
We try to solve Indian womens child birth problems. You try to get rid of obscurantism, ignorance and hatred in Pakistani Islam. Deal?
#90 Posted by stuka on October 26, 2001 12:10:44 am
Scout:
``Stuka #51, ``However, Cspan provides coverage only. It does not, unlike CNN and Fox News, delve on commentary and editorialism.``
That`s all fine and dandy. But journalism, news reporting shouldn`t be like a buffet table so you can pick and choose what you cover. Commentary and editorialism shouldn`t be limited to one sided views only.``
OK, you make a point. However, you are now talking about the ideal, not the reality. The way the Media ``should`` be. I agree it isn`t. My question is why single out the Americans? Why CNN, and BBC, if every country`s media does the exact same thing?
``Stuka #51, ``However, Cspan provides coverage only. It does not, unlike CNN and Fox News, delve on commentary and editorialism.``
That`s all fine and dandy. But journalism, news reporting shouldn`t be like a buffet table so you can pick and choose what you cover. Commentary and editorialism shouldn`t be limited to one sided views only.``
OK, you make a point. However, you are now talking about the ideal, not the reality. The way the Media ``should`` be. I agree it isn`t. My question is why single out the Americans? Why CNN, and BBC, if every country`s media does the exact same thing?
#89 Posted by PM on October 26, 2001 12:10:44 am
hmmm... 80%?... 15%? hummm.. for what it`s worth, my own estimate, based on anecdotal but fairly broad-spectrum data is that the true number lies more or less smack band between those two.
...And then there`s taht issue of wording/ instrumental bias that Samina made referrence to, too.
Hey Shandana,
Where are you these days? Please feel free to contact me @ [myfullname]@hotmail.com. I`m presently in Karachi.
Pat.
...And then there`s taht issue of wording/ instrumental bias that Samina made referrence to, too.
Hey Shandana,
Where are you these days? Please feel free to contact me @ [myfullname]@hotmail.com. I`m presently in Karachi.
Pat.
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