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Re: Stuka

``The million dollar question:

Is Bhartiya Mussulmaan really one?``

He`s a real life James Bond. hehe

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ylh,

{{You idiot....why do I even bother with you.}}

Cos youre a total moron--and an eternal bakra to boot. You just cannot resist the ``k for kafir`` bait. People who never learn (even when told repeatedly) are worse than idiots.

Book knowledge--that you love to show off, is just a stepping stone to wisdom. REAl wisdom is learning from life`s experiences. However, since its not written in a book, it just doesnt seem to filter into your brain.

Re Zafar # 187

``Cineblitz has an opening for you!``

Kya yaadain taza kar di Zafar bhai (and Satyavadi too). The only time I used to get to read this mag. was during the visits to my local tonsorial artist, so now that gives me one more thing to look forward to when I go home (only 12 days to go, yessss!).

Bye or as they say meow to you cats out there..as this billi is going to dilli

Subroto

Zafar #187:

``Cineblitz has an opening for you!``

Do they pay in dollars?

No, Ok how about a date each with Bipasha Basu and Sonali Bendre once every two months?

Lemmme know...

Satyavadi

Binifer:

It`s completely up to you where you want to go. Your hell may be someone`s heaven and vice versa. By the way, you will be taking a major step in your life pretty soon. I hope that it was your own decision than otherwise. If you could make that decision on your own then you ought to be able to decide on the sleeves and the back of your dress. Should not take very long :)

Take Care.

PS: For some more on what the speaker from the Eklavya Foundation said :)
http://www.chowk.com/bin/showr.cgi?f=aamirali_aug1601&n=600#reply1164

gowardhan #168, Eklvaya #178

The source of the article is:
http://members.tripod.com/

zahra

i will :--)

BTW, all this talk about hijaab and clothes and hell is freaking me out. i just collected my shadi ka jora which is a bright red backless, sleeveless sharaara.

anNoo says i`ll go straight to hell while my sasoomaa says I`ll kill both her husband and mine with shock

:--(

Reply Satyavadi # 165

“Now did this BM guy really know Sarwari? Has he really gone to SJ to really ask her hand in marriage? What will YLH do now, since he has been openly courting and maska-maroing Sarwari on Chowk for a long time? Where does Saxena fit in?”

Cineblitz has an opening for you!

Zafar

Gowardhan:

Dude, I read your long post, and my reaction, well lemme just say it wasn`t pleasent. Especially the part about Pakistan providing all material help to Hindus/Sikhs leaving for India.

Here`s my take though. Pakistan is a foreign country. Pakistanis are not Indians. They can teach whatever they want to their kids, its not our business.

Now, if all these teachings imbue Pakistani with hatred towards India, fine, that`s their choice. If that hatred translate into hostile action against India, we will retaliate. That is our choice.

Now, let me say one more thing. From personal experience (having studied in India), I know our books do not have a similar Hindu-Muslim divide. That is our choice, and I for one am quiet happy with that choice. Secondly, the secular leanings of our text books also did not translate into any form of amity with Pakistan. Tell me, in your circle of friends in India, how many considered Pakistan to be a friendly country? In my case, none. They choose to differentiate on the basis of religion, we chose to do so on the basis of our nationality. They made their choice, we made ours. One advantage of the choice we made is that we will never have the moral obligation of hosting a few thousand Hindus of Fiji or wherever, unlike these the poor sods across the border who are stuck with holding thousands of Afghans in the name of religion. We are glad we made that choice, and I bet the Fijian hindus are glad too, as it makes their case stronger for political asylum in Australia (where Zafar can work weekends processing their paperwork:))LOL Imagine the delicious irony of it Gowardhan, an Indian Muslim slogging long hourse for Fijian Hindus lol

Inspite of the relatively less virulent nature of our text books, do we still not consider the Pakistani state our enemy country? I know I still do. Ofcourse, after coming to the US and interacting with Pakistanis, I make a distinction between the actions of the Pakistani state(which are made in it`s percieved self-interest), and individual Pakistanis. I am also confident that if, by some miracle, the self-interests of India and Pakistan were to coincide, you and I would be left holding the baggage of hatred in the dustbin of history.

Whereas I can understand your anger, I`d like you to keep things in perspective too. Hope you take my post in the right spirit.

Regards

Stuka

Sarwari:

``As for your buddy, let me assure you that there are many losers from India here in San Jose living off of welfare especially after 9/11. ``

UM, how would you know about how many Indians there are living off welfare? Do you have a dead end government job at the Dep`t of Social Services? Or the Postal Dep`t? Is that what makes you so angry?

I`m just asking. No need to go all postal on me. ;)

RSaxena:

The million dollar question:

Is Bhartiya Mussulmaan really one? If you don`t want to out that info on Chowk, can you email me at pvohra@yahoo.com??

Re Urstruly, #91:

So Sahib, you are now gloating about your newly found comfort in bigotry, albeit on a condition that “courage” required to practice bigotry is a “virtue” that makes right-and-wrong irrelevant. In other words, it is fine to be a bigot, as long as one “courageously” acts upon it. While you are at it, you should also declare that Abu Jehal is really your true hero, since he died fighting for what he believed in.

Your “Moudoodism” not only teaches you bigotry, it also teaches you to glorify bigotry by euphemistically calling it “courage”. How absurd …!

Asad

How far to bow to Pakistan?

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Author: Bill Nichols

Publication: USA Today

Date: October 25, 2001

Some worry policy is too focused on helping Musharraf

Washington - When the Bush administration began to mount a military response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, senior officials faced a central question: Would Pakistan help?

The answer, to the relief of President Bush and his team, was yes. But as the U.S. campaign in Afghanistan continues, a new worry is being voiced in Washington: Is concern for the stability of Pakistan`s military regime driving U.S. policy?

``We`ve been bending over backward too far to make sure Pakistan`s feelings don`t get hurt,`` Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., told Secretary of State Colin Powell on Wednesday during Powell`s appearance on Capitol Hill.

There is wide agreement within the administration that the assistance of Gen. Pervez Musharraf`s government is crucial to U.S. success in Afghanistan. Pakistani intelligence on Afghanistan`s Taliban regime is key, as is the ability of U.S. troops to use Pakistan as a staging ground.

Policymakers also agree about the fragility of Musharraf`s government, which is faced with opposition to the U.S. campaign among Islamic radicals sympathetic to the Taliban.

``Musharraf is riding a tiger. I am very concerned about the stability of his regime,`` said Brent Scowcroft, who was national security adviser to the first President Bush.

But recent public comments by senior administration officials suggest an internal debate on how much U.S. policy should bend to try to help prop up Musharraf.

U.S. officials deny any split on either military or diplomatic strategy. But statements by Powell, in particular, suggest a deeper concern within the State Department that Pakistan`s political needs remain a key basis for future military and diplomatic decisions.

``The State Department is very fearful of the attitude in the street of Pakistan and the danger that a popular uprising against Musharraf`s government is quite serious,`` says Ted Galen Carpenter, a foreign policy analyst at the Cato Institute.

In his Hill appearance, Powell said Pakistan, which has deep ties to the Taliban, will not be allowed to unduly influence the formation of a new Afghan government.

``The next government of Afghanistan cannot be dictated into existence by Pakistan or any other neighbors,`` Powell said. ``It has to come into existence by the will of the Afghan people.``

But other Powell comments that appear to echo Pakistani concerns have been at odds with others in the administration.

One example: Musharraf has urged the administration to end its military campaign quickly and to be respectful of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which begins in mid- November. In recent appearances, Powell has said the administration will consider those concerns.

During a news conference with British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw on Wednesday, Powell said he would like to see the operation accomplish its objectives ``in the next few days.`` The administration is ``sensitive to Ramadan, but we can`t let that be the sole determinant`` for military operations, Powell said.

Pentagon officials, however, said flatly that there are no time constraints on the campaign. Army Gen. Tommy Franks, head of U.S. Central Command, said in Bahrain on Wednesday, ``The operations we undertake go on 24 hours a day.``

Musharraf also has urged Washington to consider including some elements of the Taliban in any post-war government.

In Islamabad last week, Powell suggested that moderate members of the Taliban could serve in a new Afghan government. Powell has since qualified his remarks, saying Taliban rank-and-file could serve in a new government but no one in the current regime.

But his original statement raised hackles with other U.S. allies, specifically India and Russia.

On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin ruled out participation by the Taliban. He said it had ``compromised itself`` by cooperating with international terrorists.

Re: satyavadi

no, no...no biharis here