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#52 moron

``But Mr. Burns I would advise you to read between the lines of these interacts-all 50 of them-and the 100s that are to follow. Not a single interlocutor has made a differentiation between views of one American i.e. Mr. Burns and rest of the Americans.``

See my #16. Did you read all 50 of them before making this statement or did it not matter since you just wanted to say your piece? Moron!

Brilliant Urstruly - Right on all counts, including `if the stereo fits, where it... er play it`. Yeah, I noticed that America is the newest Landlord. When we had the Brits in America, we kicked them out. Landlords are like that. If I accept a landlord, shame on me. They`re just trying to be their power-hungry little selves. They`re a known. I don`t know what all the fuss is about either. I think I see a little `too much` protest here.

Farzana #4,

Is that the best retort you could come up with?

Have you been in the US, Farzana?

I lodge a very stong protest against the author for clubbing India and Pakistan together.

The author supposed to be a teacher. Why doesn`t he educate himself about India. There is no feudalism in India.

Haven`t read the article yet... couldn`t resist interjecting after reading this in the first three lines: ``Teaching English to spoiled landlord’s [sic] kids ...`` !!!

Oy Vey Ov Vey

What is the world coming to. A post by UrsTruly(Read Taliban type bigot)that I actually appreciate :(

Why are all the posters, ok well not all, but most recting like scalded cats. Its just his opinions he`s posting. Don`t like it. Scroll down.BTW, I notice a lot of people calling this dude ``Gora``, white etc.

Um, did he post a picture somewhere?? How do you guys know this guy is a white guy? Oh right, no one could even IMAGINE the absolute temerity of a black guy to criticize us like this??

Way to go, Pakistan.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/10/25/mujahida/index_np.html

Anybody still remembers this person in the holy land flowing with naked women and lot of booze?

http://www.free-drshaikh.org/

Hamidm

`the silliest thing mankind has withnessed is a half naked faqir running around making salt and spinning cotton on an antedeluvian wheel`

You sir are my newest hero.

Jay,

Please shut up. You dont make any sense. First stop lying ... India has a lot of problems... some would say a lot more than Pakistan... so go deal with them, you Pakistan-obsessed scounderel you!

-YLH

Reply Farzana # 44

“Why are we often so ready to condone the illiteracy of the Westerners?”

Don’t know, but too often we are…

“Just thought I’d add to the “disturbing trend” :) Aur woh itne saare prashna chinh kis baat ke liye the?”

?????

“Arre, Mr. Burns was talking about how hamare marad logan haath pakad ke raaste mein ghoomte hai…yeh to barson se aate chalaa hai…aur agar kuchch baat aage bhi badh jaati hai to chup-chaap kaam par lag jaate hai, yeh nahin ki raaste mein duniya ko bataate hai ki dekh bhai dekh, hum gay hai. Woh to sirf hamne ek point bataaya…humko kya lena-dena unke saath :)”

Hau Ma, yeh tho bilkul sahiij kaha thum ne. Apun ke marad logan tho aisiij karthe…voh bahar vaale hiij sootan pen ke naatchthe so, aur voh bas jumbad hiij dene ko...

Zafar

Reply Bluenoon26 # 41

Bluenoonji

First of all thank you for your very gracious response to my rather peevish post.

I would agree that traditional feudal set-ups remain in relatively few parts of India. The feudal mindset, however, is still widespread.

For example, in just about any of the former princely states if a member of the former royal family contests an election they get support from many local people – just because of who they are. On the other hand, of course, this election thing is definitely NOT a feudal hold over…on a more mundane level the relationship between even middle class people and those they have working in their houses IS quite feudal. India is moving away from its feudal past, but perhaps not as quickly or as completely as she might have.

That is probably similar to racism in the US. The older forms of racism are less prevalent, but a racist mindset is quite common. (And de facto segregation remains a fact of life in many - or most - places.)

Best wishes,

Zafar

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Aslam Beg predicts

According to Khabrain ex-COAS General (Retd) Mirza Aslam Beg said that America will carpet-bomb Afghanistan after which the Taliban will become helpless. The Americans will destroy the Taliban and bring to power a broad-based coalition government in Kabul. After that the country will be split in small states which the Americans then will manipulate into fighting among themselves.

`Parpota` Sheikh Chilli

According to Ausaf, ex-president of Azad Kashmir and leader of Muslim Conference, Sardar Qayyum, said that America had always stood by Pakistan and that the Taliban should hand Osama bin Laden over to them. Those who accused America of being a fickle friend were nothing more than parpota of sheikh chilli (great grand children of a famous day-dreamer).

Imam Mehdi and Afghanistan

According to Khabrain, in the light of a hadith, the black-turbaned armies from Afghanistan will join the forces of Imam Mehdi. The armies of Rome will confront the armies of Madina and ask for men wanted by Rome, but Madina will refuse to give them up.

Don`t befriend Christians and Jews!

Famous cleric Dr Israr Ahmad wrote in daily Pakistan that Sura Maida in the Quran asked the Muslims not to befriend Christians and Jews because they were joined against Islam and that whoever befriended them would be one of them. Earlier the cleric had written that civil war in Pakistan would be useful in bringing Islam to the country.

Pakistan`s `halala` with America

Leader of JUI Balochistan Hafiz Hussain Ahmad told Khabrain that Pakistan was a divorcee of America but the Taliban had made it possible for America to do halala with it and take it back in wedlock. He said if Ahmad Shah Massoud had been alive he would have fought against America. He also said that Allama Tahirul Qadiri was a sarkari maulvi and calling him wise was contempt of court (because of stricture passed against him).

Filmstar turns out to be 34!

According to Khabrain famous filmstar Mira, who is 21 officially, had turned out to be 34 on the basis of the birth certificate made in Malir Karachi in 1967. She shifted as a two-year-old to Sheikhupura and her ID card was given the false year of birth as 1977. This discovery was supposed to affect her market value.

America`s real target!

Editor Ausaf Hamid Mir wrote in his column that after Zahir Shah had been brought to Kabul American troops will invade Afghanistan. Iran had become aware of this and was now issuing statements because once the American troops are stationed in Afghanistan they will not go away but use that platform to take their revenge on Iran. After that the Americans will realise that their real friend was not Pakistan but India because of its bigger market and they will ask Pakistan to end the jehad in Kashmir calling it terrorism.

America will use chemical weapons!

Quoted in Insaf, Pakistan`s nuclear scientist Sultan Bashiruddin stated that the United States will use chemical weapons during its invasion of Afghanistan, which will have sinister effect on Pakistani territory too. He said that America had already planned the bombing and is prepared to use lethal chemicals.

Don`t pay income tax!

According to Insaf 55 percent of the businesses in Pakistan were running without paying income tax. Most traders when contacted pretended not to know what income tax was and put forward their ignorance of taxation as an excuse not to pay taxes.

Mulla Umar married Osama`s daughter

According to Khabrain, the ruler of Afghanistan Mulla Umar married the daughter of Osama bin Laden in 1998 and there were rumours that Osama bin Laden also married the daughter of Mulla Umar. Mulla Umar is 40 years old and sits on his charpai while holding his cabinet meetings. He wrote important orders on bits of papers and called himself a servant of Islam.

Taliban don`t have good generals

Quoted in Insaf, ex-COAS General (Retd) Jehangir Karamat said that America will not land its own troops in Afghanistan but will use the Northern Alliance as its spearhead. He said Rashid Dostam could organise the Alliance and that there was no good generals like him with the Taliban. He said Taliban were in the interest of Islamabad and any other government in Kabul could increase Pakistan`s problems, and that the Frontier was safe because of the Taliban.

Juma Namangani bigger threat

According to Nawa-e-Waqt, Juma Namangani of Ferghana Valley in Tajikistan was a bigger threat to the world than Osama bin Laden because he had two thousand warriors with him and was operating in a region in the Pamirs that was not easily accessible. He threatened the life of the Uzbek president Karimov. He made money from drug smuggling and took handouts from Osama bin Laden and wanted to bring about a Taliban-style order in the Central Asian republics. (He went secretly to Tajikistan from Pakistan after shaving off his beard).

America will stay back

Famous poet columnist Zafar Iqbal wrote in daily Pakistan that even America was not able to conquer Afghanistan and the bases he got in Pakistan, Tajikistan and India, will make it possible for it to act against its old rival China. The Americans will stay back in the region, including Kashmir, which dispute they will resolve in their own favour. The great poet wrote that America will get bogged down in Afghanistan and will become so khwar (humbled) that its global thanedari will be exposed as impotence.

Jehad against America`s friends

Pakistan`s most powerful cleric Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai of Banuri mosque was quoted in Khabrain as saying in Islamabad`s Jamia Farooq Azam that his men will do jehad not only against America but also against its allies. He said Pakistan`s rulers who were allied with America will not be tolerated. OIC should do something but, if not, it should keep its resolutions with itself. He said `nobody`s father` would be able to change the syllabi of the madrasas in Pakistan.

Afghan ambassador`s funny name

Daily Pakistan reported that famous editor Altaf Hassan Qureshi asked Afghan ambassador Mulla Abdus Salam Zaeef why his name was zaeef which meant `weak`. On which the ambassador replied that the human being was a weak entity and it was proper to acknowledge this weakness. Famous editor Altaf hassan Qureshi then opined that perhaps the name was originally zaif which meant `guest`.

Just like us

Columnist Beg Raj wrote in daily Din that the Americans thought that since all those named in terrorist acts were Muslims America should get rid of its Muslims. He said this was just like Pakistani behaviour in 1993 when Babri mosque was destroyed in India. Pakistanis burnt all the mandirs. On little suspicion, Pakistanis were known to have burned entire Christian settlements in Pakistan, and when the rumour spread that the Jews had occupied the Kaaba mosque, Pakistanis had burnt the American embassy in Islamabad while the government stood aside as a spectator and President was riding a bike in Rawalpindi as a publicity stunt. He wrote that on the one side America was sending food for the starving Afghan people, and on the other the Taliban were kicking the UN charity organisations out of Afghanistan.

Myths about Afghan history

Columnist Mustansir Javed wrote in Jang that contrary to the assertion that the Afghans were never defeated by anyone, history actually showed that they were never free of the dominance of great powers. In 1840, the British blundered into Kabul after putting forward the claim of Shah Shuja to the throne of Ahmad Shah Durrani, arrested the pretender Dost Muhammad Khan and sent him to India. The sons of Dost especially Akbar Khan put the British army to the sword. After that the British ruled through remote control and money, but Sher Khan wanted more and turned to Russia. The British marched into Kabul in 1878 and after defeating Sher Ali put his son on the throne. Soon after that, the British took control of the Afghan foreign policy through a treaty. The Afghans kept killing each other while their princes visited India and were regaled lavishly by the British. Habibullah came to power in 1907 but was killed. His son Amanullah who went to war with the British but was defeated. After Bacha Saqao`s fundamentalist takeover, the British sent Nadir Khan to take care of him. He defeated the Bacha and hanged him.

JUI prepares 1.4 lakh new warriors

According to daily Pakistan, JUI had prepared 1.4 lakh new Taliban in its seminaries. The Afghan soil had produced Mehmood Ghaznavi and Ghori and destroyed the Russians. The main seminaries supplying the Taliban were run by Maulana Samiul Haq, Fazlur Rehman, Mufti Shamzai, Abdul Ghani, Nur Muhammad, and Muhammad Yusuf. In 1992 when Mulla Raketi started his mischief in Afghanistan the Afghan youth turned to Pakistani seminaries. When Mulla Raketi abducted DC Quetta, the Taliban from the seminaries took action against him. These were supplied by Fazlur Rehman and Muhammad Yusuf.

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Re Ordinary # 49

But isn’t it amusing to see Indians and Pakistanis ganging up for the first time...... and that too against a gora........lol :)

Speaking of the International School of Choueifat in Lahore and views of Americans that have taught there, the following interview may be of interest:

http://southasia.uchicago.edu/aut99a.htm

All the best

Sheheryar

PS. Check out my new gallery at:

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Most of the interacts prove most of the points Terry has rambled about in his piece. Having a sense of humor is the most precious resource one has in dealing with hyperbole and innuendo. The frantic defence from the `enlightened` ones is equivalent to cries of `Islam khatray mein hai`.....

later

-sac

MaheshG # 70

Dimaagi feudalism tau hai na? The author`s labeling of Vajapayee a feudal is odd (actually, very odd) but we do have our share of feudal-wanna-bes.