Benazir Bhutto in Sacramento

November 15, 2001

A Tribute to New York: Junoon performs at the Tribeca Performing Arts Center, at a college which lost a building in the 9/11 attacks. For tickets and more info, contact samad_wazir@hotmail.com

Venue: Tribeca Performing Arts Center , Borough of

Manhattan Community College 199 Chambers street NY NY

Subway lines: A,C,1,2,3,9,4,5,6,N,R

Organizers: Pakistan Student Association with the help of Student Goverment, Borough of Manhattan Community College Ticket : $15 general entry... limited seating (only 900 seats and no standing allowed)

Zico #154, ``And you are being played along like suckers by Big daddy USA again.``

hmmmmm, it`s funny but last time i checked, the indian government was quite busy kissing the US`s as$ and was bending over backwards to get the United States to throw them a political bone.

why can`t Indians like yourself handle the alliance between the US and Pakistan?

by the way, when a country like Pakistan has no choice in a matter of political importance such as this, it`s not called ``being played along like suckers.`` it`s called doing the right thing and that`s exactly what president musharraf is doing.

i suggest you quit whining about Pakistan. get over your own insecurities before asking others to.

For the Indians making fun of Maleeha Lodhi`s hair:

you guys are just jealous that our politicians are better looking than yours. benazir bhutto, imran khan, maleeha lodhi all take good care of their images, and even president musharraf is good looking if you squint hard enough. better than the shriveled little yellow vested/dhoti clad/pot bellied/oily hair kind east of the border.

Re: Zico

``Beehive Lodhi``

hey, you pay me royalties before you use that expression

Is Farrukh Dhondhi the guy who wrote the screenplay for Movie Jinnah?

Anyway, that was a great article, as a matter of fact both of them. I`ve often said, people like Muhammad Junaid, born and bred in the US are more attracted to a fanatical version of Islam than anyone else.

ylh

{We understand quite well, that the negative propaganda you people have spread around was easier to spread than to clean up, but we are winning people one by one by one by one}

-I understand how beleagured people like you must take pleasures in small packages.

Mister, I am not a bigot or a fanatic, just an Indian patriot, and if those terms apply to me, they do so to you too. The USA and the whole world sees real bigotry and fanaticism beamed in live from Bahawalpur and Peshawar everyday. Beehive Lodhi is more transparent than a pane of glass. As for lies and false assertions, dude, your compatriots went live on a BBC discussion programme afew weeks ago broadcast on BBC world and said defintively it was Mossad, and the old ``4000 Jews were not at their desks`` canard. How the carefully assembled audience of Americans in the New York studio replied had to be seen to be believed. And Fareed Zakaria single handedly dismantling the obfuscations of those Pakistani ostriches, a representative panel of ``educated`` Paki opinion was almost painful to watch. Trust me dude, you Pakistanis are your own worst enemies. Even you cling to the ``whole world is against us`` persecution complex.

Check this out:

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999

``FEARS of fundamentalist upheaval in Pakistan have aroused concerns in Washington that part or all of Islamabad`s arsenal of nuclear weapons may have to be moved to China for safekeeping from foreign attack

Pakistan`s military establishment was said last week to have been shaken by reports that America, India or Israel might be planning pre-emptive strikes on nuclear sites to prevent weapons falling into fundamentalist hands. ``The generals are panic-stricken,`` said one Pakistani source``

Try and read last weeks cover story in ``The New Yorker`` by Seymour Hersh as well. The rigour and veracity of American journalism is alive and well.

Sadly the image of Islam in the west will never recover from the battering its image has taken since September 11th. And you are being played along like suckers by Big daddy USA again.

Now, have you been racially profiled yet like your compatriots from Coney Island? I feel sad about it, I really do, as Indians are being tainted with the Paki brush. But at least some things now, are perfectly clear.

Take care

AAmir:

I dont understand a word you said

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Sounds like our pal urstruly here:

http://nypost.com/news/regionalnews/33342.htm

A fascinating article by Farrukh Dhondy

http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_4_our_islamic.html

Opinion from another person who received encouragement here on CHOWK from me (which
was not too well received by some readers either) at:

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/today/editor/opi1.htm

Ras

How Oprah became a fundamentalist in India:

http://pub6.ezboard.com/fhinduunityhinduismhottopics.showMessage?topicID=4659.topic

Aamir,

Excellent point there about Oprah getting Hate mail ....

A case in point

http://www.hinduunity.org

Damn I really should be working.

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Chohti chohti Khushian:

Zico says:

`Keep smiling, I certainly am when I watch Pakis squirm in the full glare of Western media spotlight, and their fallacies and whinging makes good comedy for us.`

Haan beta khush ho jaaa. I wonder why your government was gyrating like a tawaif from Lucknow to get the US attention to counter Pakistan.

We understand quite well, that the negative propaganda you people have spread around was easier to spread than to clean up, but we are winning people one by one by one by one. I for one am really happy with Maleeha Lodhi`s performance as the Pakistani ambassador. Millions of middle class women who watch Oprah for example know now that Pakistani women are upright bold and strong.

Similarly everytime Maleeha Lodhi, Salman Ahmed, Benazir Bhutto or Musharraf appear on TV, we get an exposure far better than all the negative nonsense you people cherish.

Waisay other than Fox News (Fox, Star and Zee are part of an international conglomerate from what I understand, though I am not too sure of Zee) none of the channels have portrayed a particularly bad impression of Pakistan... as for Fox News, like one of my friends from my fraternity said `three redneck garbagemen in Midwest watch Fox News.`

In any event, hope bigots and fanatics like yourself will give up this site and go away.

ylh:

Dude, even someone like me who has no sympathy for Pakistanians has been wincing at the verbal batterings and cultural examinations of Pakistan and Islam that is taking place in the western media right now. It must hurt alot to see all your warts diplayed unequivocally by non Hindus. Keep smiling, I certainly am when I watch Pakis squirm in the full glare of Western media spotlight, and their fallacies and whinging makes good comedy for us.

;-)

Stuka,

Thanks for the explanation. I did mean Javed Nasir`s attempt to set up the PGPC as a focus for disaffected Sikhs. Sorry for the misunderstanding.