A Journey Into Afghanistan

Afghanistan is Only ruled out by Muslim Pakhtuns.

Pakhtuns are always the believers of Holy Books.

An they change their religion when new book and new Religion by Allah Almighty comes on earth.

This gave them a big advantage and Allah`s Mercy and Kindness upon them. Thats why Pakhtuns are nevver ruled out by some other nation.

But They say that they are

Pakhtun For more and over 7000 Years.

Muslim For last 1400 Years.

BUT THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS MUSLIM FIRST THEY ALSO SAY THAT THERE FIRST PRIORITY IS ISLAM AND THAN PAKHTUN.

SO AREN``T THEY GREAT MUSLIMS THAN US? WE ARE THOSE WHO SAY PEHLAY PAKISTAN PHIR KUCH AUR. (TOBA ASTAGHFAA) YA ALLAH DON`T DESTROY US BY YOUR AZAAB (AMEEN) .

LA ILA HA ILALAHU MUHAMMAD DUR RASOOL ALLAH

Re : Zafar #93

Zafar bhai, aap Roachistan ki history mangen aur hum na batayan, aisa kaise ho sakta hai. Mainly confusion aata hai due to our lack of knowledge of our proud Roachi past. As you have pointed out ``I heard that they were Malayalis, but the word was shortened because it was difficult for North Indians to pronounce``. This is partly correct, for they followed the matriarchical traditions of the Malayalis, and because revisionists have taken over the historians we have missed out on our knowledge of Sherni Khanum Churi.

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Subroto

Brief History of Sherni Khanum Churi

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The career of Sherni Khanum Churi, the heroine of Roachistan, is as fascinating as Babura and not less instructive than Akbari. Sherni Khanum was born in 1472. Her original name was Farida Khanum. Farida`s mother Hasina Khanum was the jagirdarni of Sasaram in Bihar. Hasina was a polyandrist and her second hubby had great influence over her. Farida, fed up of her step-father`s ill-treatment, left home at the age of 22 and went to Abhi-mai-Jaunpur. This turn made her pass through many adventures and struggle. In Abhi-mai-Jaunpur, she devoted some time to study and very soon became proficient in Greek as well as Latin literature.

Being an exceptionally brilliant person, she drew the attention first of her teachers and then of Jamali Khanum, the governor of Jaunpur. Jamali Khanum effected a reconciliation between Farida and her mother. She then returned to Sasaram and administered her mother`s jagirs for 21 years. She successfully administered the jagirs and came to be known as a honest and able administrator. This roused her step-father`s jealousy and once again Farida left Sasaram and went to Agra-ki-namkeen.

After her mother`s death, Farida took possession of her paternal jagirs. In 1522, Farida took the service of Bahari Khanum, the governor of AnderBihar. Her mistress was impressed by her service and devotion. Bahari Khanum conferred on her the title of Sherni Khanum for having shown gallantry in killing a tiger single-handed. Later, Sherni Khanum was appointed Vakil (deputy governor) and also a tutor of Bahari Khanum`s daughter Jalali Khanum.

Jealous of Sherni Khanum`s success, her enemies poisoned her master`s mind and she was thus deprived of her mother`s jagir. She joined the Babura camp where she served from April 1527 to June 1528. Soon, she left the MeraMuhgols and returned back to AnderBihar and took over her old job as a guardian of Jalali Khanum. Jalali Khanum being a minor, Sherni Khanum became the virtual ruler of AnderBihar.

In 1531, Sherni Khanum asserted her independence when Humayuni was the emperess in Rochistan,. The unexpected rise of Sherni Khanum made the Lohani Halfguns and Jalali Khanum impatient. They even entered into an alliance with Muhamudi Shahni, the Queen of ShyamBengal. Sherni Khanum defeated the ShyamBengali Queen on the Kiul river in 1534. Later, she invaded ShyamBengal and Muhamudi Shahni handed over her a large sum and territory extending from Kiul to Sakrigali. She then became the independent ruler of AnderBihar and ShyamBengal.

In October 1537, Sher Khanum again invaded ShyamBengal and besieged the city of GauriTeraGaonBadaPyara. Humayuni realising the strength of the Halfgun marched to oppose Sherni Khanum in December 1537 and besieged Chunar. However the brave army of Sherni Khanum baffled all the attempts of the assailants for six months which gave all the time to Sherni Khanum for reduction of GauriTeraGaonBadaPyara by April 1538.

In 1539 when Humayuni marched towards ShyamBengal, Sherni Khanum cleverly went and occupied the MeraMuhgol territories in AnderBihar and Jaunpur. And finally in 1539, Sherni Khanum was able to defeat Humayuni at Chausa (situated near the boundary of AnderBihar and UttarYaniNorth Pradesh). And again in 1540, she defeated Humayuni at KanaujFeelit, and went on to capture Delhiprastha and Agra-ki-namkeen. Thus Sherni Khanum re-established the Halfguns rule in Delhiprastha.

In 1540, Sherni Khanum defeated Humayuni at KanaujFeelit and went on to capture Delhiprastha and Agra-ki-namkeen. Thus Sherni Khanum re-established the Halfguns rule in Delhiprastha. After this, the main focus of Sherni Khanum was to expand her kingdom. In 1541, Sherni Khanum marched towards ShyamBengal. In 1542 she subjugated Malwa and then marched against Purani Malni of Raisin in Central Rochistan. The Halfguns fell furiously on the husbands and children of the Roachpoot and the Roachpoot fought till end. This incident was described as a great blot on the character of Sherni Khanum. After annexing Sindabad and Multanned, Sherni Khanum`s only enemy was Maldevi, the Rajput ruler of Marwar. Sherni Khanum won but at a great lost, with the loss of several Halfguns.

Thus in a very short time, Sherni Khanum conquered Punjaboch, Multanned, Sindh MalwaPuri and also large tracts in Roachputana. Her kingdom extended from ShyamBengal in the east to the river Sindhust (Indust) in the west. She then besieged the strong fort of Kalinjar where she died in an accidental explosion of gunpowder chutney on May 22, 1545. However her brief reign of five years brought about considerable changes in the administration of the kingdom.

``But, gimme a break, a churidar kurta type half Khusra criticizing Punjabis doesn`t even gell. There`s just no comparison. Let it be.``

Harsh words, Stuka saab - You do realise that your country has been ruled, only by these ``churidar kurta half khusra types``! Besides, I think Ali is Punjabi, not that it should matter.

Ali #

``Stuka, while it may be the most important thing to Indians, the modern world does not give a flying fcuk to your 5000 year old mumbo-jumbo.``

Yes, I am sure that explains why you keep bringing up caste in the first place.

Ali # 1

, but per you history books the ``churidar kurta`` types skinned and disembowelled a couple of your gurus and hung the carcasses out to dry on meat hooks. pretty much like the hogs they couldnt eat....

That`s exactly what you guys are capable of. Savages who kill the weak and defenceless, and howl when you get just desserts. Your leader now sits in London and begs India for help. I can see why you are so bitter. Uunwanted scum, both sides of the border.

How do you say it...``Dhobi key Kuttey, Na Ghar Key Na Ghat Key``.

Reply # 58 Stuka

[``Man, you know the predominant castes of prostitutes in Bombay?``]

No man. I just know your caste. The rest is my deduction and extrapolation.

[``What`s the obsession with Khatris by the way? I mean, if you were a Jatt, I could understand. If you were a Rajput, I could think you are mildly deluded. But you`re a goddamn Mohajir, not even a Punjabi.``]

I get dizzy when Indians go about explaining their caste system and inter caste rivalires. Stuka, while it may be the most important thing to Indians, the modern world does not give a flying fcuk to your 5000 year old mumbo-jumbo.

Who told you I am a mohajir?

[``Your type are slapped around around by our type from Delhi to Karachi, and that`s just the way things are meant to be.``]

Your type in Karachi? You mean Pakistani Punjabis? Firstly, I doubt they are your types. Secondly, Karachi has had a civilizing influence on Punjabis and they behave very well there.... except for the Punjabi policeman of course.... but more than a hundred punjabi thanedars and a few thousand punjabi hawaldars have been dispatched back to punjab in wooden boxes.... that too has a sobering impact, won`t you agree?

I dunno about Dehli today, but per you history books the ``churidar kurta`` types skinned and disembowelled a couple of your gurus and hung the carcasses out to dry on meat hooks. pretty much like the hogs they couldnt eat.

What else is at stake here?Maybe it is a war between rival corporations but being fought in the name of the people & goverment.Modern day Monarchs looking for vainglory & absolute power and fooling the subjects into taking sides.

Just a thought!

November 5, 2001-------from Texas Ranger newspaper

American Taxpayers send Billions to our Enemies in Afghanistan

Even before September 11th, most Americans were well aware of the hostility that many Middle Eastern nations have for the U.S. Our experiences with Iran, Libya, Iraq, and now Afghanistan have understandably soured many Americans on the entire region. Indeed, the majority of anti-American sentiment in the post-Cold War era originates in the Middle East. What many Americans don`t realize, however, is the extent to which their own foreign aid tax dollars are spent funding our current and future enemies in the region.

We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today`s brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today`s dollars.

Bin Laden himself received training and weapons from the CIA, and that agency`s military and financial assistance helped the Afghan rebels build a set of encampments around the city of Khost. Tragically, those same camps became terrorist training facilities for Bin Laden, who uses some of the same soldiers our military once trained as lieutenants in his sickening terrorist network. Our heroic pilots are now busy bombing the same camps we paid to build, all the while threatened by the same Stinger missiles originally supplied by our CIA. Once again, the stark result of our foreign aid, however well-intentioned, was the arming and training of forces that later become our enemy.

Our foolish funding of Afghan terrorists hardly ended in the 1980s, however. Millions of your tax dollars continue to pour into Afghanistan even today. Our government publicly supported the Taliban right up until September 11. Already in 2001 the U.S. has provided $125 million in so-called humanitarian aid to the country, making us the world`s single largest donor to Afghanistan. Rest assured the money went straight to the Taliban, and not to the impoverished, starving residents that make up most of the population. Do we really expect a government as intolerant and anti-west as the Taliban to use our foreign aid for humane purposes? If so, we are incredibly naive; if not, we foolishly have been seeking to influence a government that regards America as an enemy.

Incredibly, in May the U.S. announced that we would reward the Taliban with an additional $43 million in aid for its actions in banning the cultivation of poppy used to produce heroin and opium. Taliban rulers had agreed to assist us in our senseless drug war by declaring opium growing ``against the will of God.`` They weren`t serious, of course. Although reliable economic data for Afghanistan is nearly impossible to find (there simply is not much of an economy), the reality is that opium is far and away the most profitable industry in the country. The Taliban was hardly prepared to give up virtually its only source of export revenue, any more than the demand for opium was suddenly going to disappear. If anything, Afghanistan`s production of opium is growing. Experts estimate it has doubled since 1999; the relatively small country is now believed to provide the raw material for fully 75% of the world`s heroin. How tragic that our government was willing to ignore Taliban brutality in its quest to find ``victories`` in the failed drug war.

U.S. taxpayers have a right to know exactly what we`re getting for our foreign aid dollars. Have we helped bring peace and prosperity to Afghanistan? Have we eased suffering there? Have we added to stability in the region? Have we earned the love or respect of the Afghan people? Have we made an ally of the Taliban government? The answer to all of these entirely reasonable questions is a resounding NO. Afghanistan is in chaos, its people starving, and its government is now an outright enemy of the United States. As we yet again find ourselves at war with forces we once funded and supported, the wisdom of foreign aid must be challenged. Peaceful relations and trade with every nation should be our goals, and the first step in accomplishing both should be to stop sending taxpayer dollars overseas.

Asalamoalikum, Sorry i did a mistake it was HUMAYUN not SHAH JEHAN. I read this before 6 years and I forgot.

Well Pakhtun is a word used for the Pakhtu speakers and in other languages they simply called Pashtu and Pashtun they both are same words. Like Farsi is called Persia.

In Afghanistan the olden times there was totally Pakhtu Afghanistan was land of Pakhtuns and will be forever. Now after when Ashraf (The founder of Ashrafi and a Pakhtun warrion ) attacked persia and took control over Persia. And then at that time his family was ruling in Aghanistan (the land of Pakhtuns) and by this many persians went to Afghanistan.

In now Afghanistan the major nations After PAKHTUNS (PASHTUN IN OTHER THAN PAKHTO LANGUAGE) FARSI, UZBEK, TAJIK and HAZARA.

A poorly written article with a lot of historical inaccuracies.

Shabana

MUGHALS and Pakhtuns (AFGHANS)

Sher Shah Suri did not come from Afghanistan. He, like the Moghuls was born and raised in India.

Afghan does not mean Pashtun. Pashtuns are merely one kind of Afghans.

The Pashtuns and Mughals hated each other just like the Northern Alliance and Taliban hate each other. Both are Afghans.

Reply Shahgul # 82

“No, the Mughal were not Afghans, they were Marwaris.”

I heard that they were Malayalis, but the word was shortened because it was difficult for North Indians to pronounce.

Reply Shabana # 84

Aap ke munh men ghee shakkar Bapuji. Iss ke bare men aur likhiye, please.

“After this all when Shah Jehan wife met him. SHAH JEHAN SAID NO MOTHER CAN GIVE A BIRTH TO A BOY LIKE FARID KHAN EVER AND NO FEMALE EVEN GAVE A BIRTH TO A BOY LIKE HIM. AND HE IS REALLY A PAKHTUN TRANSLATOR.”

Yeh zara confusing hai. Aise hua shayad (in homage to Dr Mr Subroto - Jiye Roachistan Mahan!):

Shah Jehan is pacing outside the delivery room smoking furiously. Finally a nurse comes out.

“Sir, aap ka beta hua hai.”

Shah Jahan runs around handing out cigars and hugging everybody madly. Finally Mumtaz and the brat are cleaned up and he goes in to see them, clutching big bunch of roses for M.

Mumtaz: “See sweetie, he has your nose. Poor little thing.”

Shah Jahan starts to croon doting at the baby, and then draws back appalled.

Shah Jahan: “Wait! Wait! This is not my baby! THIS IS NOT MY BABY!!!!! This is a pakhtun translator.”

Mumtaz: “Hain? Yeh pakhto vakhto bakwaas kya hai? Aur thera nahin hai tho kiss ka hoga, BADTHAMEEZ KAHIN KA!!!!!!” She picks up her hardcover Shobha De book (“Socialite Evenings”) from the bedside table and gives Shah Jahan a black eye with it.

Baby opens his mouth and starts to say “wait, wait, this is not….” in Pakhto. Meanwhile, back in Kandahar…

Vaisai…I am not so good at these things….(Subrotodada, could you possibly help out here? It IS the history of our beloved Roachistan, after all.)

Zafar

Re: 12-headed retard bapu/shah/faiza/etc.

Do you even understand half the 5000-word cut-n-paste jobs you do on Chowk? Countless times they contradict everything you try to say and being the simpleton you are, you don`t even realize it.

WorthReading--------Journalist par excellence.

INSIDE TRACK ON WORLD NEWS

by international syndicated columnist

& broadcaster Eric Margolis

Nov. 4, 2001

ANTHRAX AND ABDUL HAQ: WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND

By Eric S. Margolis

As our world continues to spin out of control, two horrible events last week had special resonance for me: the spreading anthrax terror, and the death of my old Afghan comrade-in-arms, Abdul Haq.

First, anthrax. In late 1990, after Iraq`s invasion of Kuwait, I was in Baghdad, Iraq, covering the impending Gulf War. In a futile effort to prevent threatened US air attacks, Saddam Hussein rounded up foreigners and held them hostage in Baghdad hotels. This brutish act - which provoked outrage around the world - was a typical example of the Muslim world`s uncanny knack for negative, self-defeating, public relations.

Among the hostages, I discovered three British scientists who had been employed at Iraq`s top secret Salman Pak chemical and biowarfare plant. Two of the Britons confided to me they had been working to develop a weaponized form of anthrax for Iraq`s army.

At the time, the public did not yet knew that Iraq was trying to use anthrax as a weapon. My dispatches from Baghdad were the first indication that Iraq had progressed beyond crude, World War I - style chemical weapons. The Iraqis threatened to hang me as a spy.

What made this news so fascinating was: 1. the British scientists told me they were part of a large technical team secretly organized and `seconded` to Iraq in the mid-1980`s by the British government and Secret Intelligence Service, MI6. And 2: the feed stocks for all of the germ weapons being developed by Iraq came from an American laboratory in Maryland. Iraq received full approval from the US government to buy anthrax, plague, botulism, and other pathogens. Here is a prime case of what spooks call `blowback.`

Why did Britain and the US covertly help Iraq to develop biological weapons? When an Islamic revolution overthrew the US-backed shah of Iran in 1979, the US and Britain determined to overthrow the new regime in Tehran, which was seen as a threat to their Mideast oil interests. Washington and London urged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran in 1980 and march on Tehran. US and British money, arms, and military assistance flowed secretly to Baghdad.

But by 1983, Iraq was on the defensive and near to losing the war. Iran, with nearly four times Iraq`s population, was fighting back ferociously, swamping Iraqi defenses with human wave attacks. In desperation, Iraq, US and Britain began a crash development program to produce chemical and biological weapons to break Iran`s attacks and offset its numerical superiority. Iraq`s chemical arsenal savaged Iran`s infantry and helped Iraq win the war by 1988. Over 500,000 soldiers died in the conflict.

In the Anglo-American view, chemical and biological weapons were fine - so long as they were used to kill or maim Iranian Muslims who opposed western interests. Such monstrous weapons, it seems, are only associated with terrorism when used against westerners. My view: what goes around, comes around, as the old song goes.

Second, Abdul Haq. A leading mujihadin leader during the great jihad, or holy struggle, of the 1980`s against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, Haq was a burly, colorful, intense man, one of the most charismatic Pashtun leaders and a CIA favorite. I was with Abdul Haq and his men both in Peshawar and inside Afghanistan. Haq, and his brother, Hadji Kadir, gave me the hospitality of their home and their badly needed protection during the important battle for Jalalabad.

When the Afghan communist regime offered $50,000 to Afridi tribesmen around the Khyber Pass to capture me, two jeeploads of Haq`s warriors ensured I was not kidnapped and sent to be tortured and executed in Kabul.

After 11 September, CIA resumed contacts with its old ally Abdul Haq that were broken off in 1989. When it became clear in recent weeks that the Russian-created Northern Alliance, a motly collection of Tajiks and Uzbeks, would be unable to take over Afghanistan from the Pushtun Taliban, CIA sought an anti-Taliban Pushtun leader, and naturally called the renowned Abdul Haq.

Last week, CIA sent Haq and a handful of supporters into Afghanistan with bags of dollars to bribe Pushtun tribal leaders away from Taliban. Haq, who was headstrong and impulsive, foolishly went along with CIA`s hasty, poorly concocted scheme.

Like CIA`s unbroken record of bloody fiascos in Iraq, this amateurish venture also failed disastrously. Forewarned by sympathizers in Peshawar, Taliban surrounded Haq`s party. Haq, who had lost a foot to a Soviet mine, tried to flee on horseback. CIA bungled an attempt to rescue him, though two of its agents with Haq managed to escape on US helicopters. My old friend was captured and summarily executed by Taliban as a warning to any potential defectors.

The life of one of the heroes of the great jihad against Soviet oppression was thus thrown away in a botched, amateur mission in an unnecessary war. Another CIA `expendable asset` had been expended.

Ten days before his fatal mission, Abdul Haq urged the US not to bomb Afghanistan, warning doing so would only rally Afghans to Taliban, inflict massive new suffering on an already tortured nation, and plunge Afghanistan into disintegration and chaos.

No one in war-fevered Washington listened to Abdul Haq.

Interesting article from today`s NYTimes.

Fighting bin Ladenism

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN



DOHA, Qatar -- If you want to know why the U.S. is hated in the Arab street, read the recent editorial in the semi-official Egyptian daily, Al Ahram, written by its editor, Ibrahim Nafie. After saying that the U.S. was deliberately making humanitarian food drops in areas of Afghanistan full of land mines, Mr. Nafie added: ``Similarly, there were several reports that the [U.S.] humanitarian materials have been genetically treated, with the aim of affecting the health of the Afghan people. If this is true, the U.S. is committing a crime against humanity by giving the Afghan people hazardous humanitarian products.``

This was an editorial written by Egypt`s leading editor, personally appointed by President Hosni Mubarak. It basically accuses the U.S. of dropping poison food on Afghans — according to unspecified ``reports.`` So is it any wonder that people on the Egyptian street hate us?

This is the game that produced bin Ladenism: Arab regimes fail to build a real future for their people. This triggers seething anger. Their young people who can get visas escape overseas. Those who can`t turn to the mosque and Islam to protest. The regimes crush the violent Muslim protesters, but to avoid being accused of being anti-Muslim the regimes give money and free rein to their most hard-line, but nonviolent, Moslem clerics, while also redirecting their public`s anger onto America through their press. Result: America ends up being hated and Islam gets handed over to the most anti-modern forces. Have a nice day.

What these Arab regimes still don`t get is that Sept. 11 has exposed their game. They think America is on trial now, but in fact it is stale regimes like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, which produced the hijackers, that are on trial. Will they continue to let Islam be hijacked by anti-modernists, who will guarantee that the Arab world falls further behind? Will they continue to blame others? Or will they look in the mirror, take on intolerance, and open their societies to a different future?

Here`s the good news: Some Arab-Muslim voices are popping up, rejecting the garbage peddled by the regimes. The London-based newspaper Al Hayat just published a letter from an Egyptian film critic, Samir Farid. It said: ``I felt ashamed while reading most, if not all, of the commentary [on Sept. 11], primarily in the Egyptian press. . . . Most, if not all, of what I read proves that the poison of the undemocratic, military Arab regimes has also entered the bloodstream of the [intellectual] elite. These [people] no longer see . . . destruction for its own sake as disgraceful. What murky future awaits this region?``

Here in Qatar, on the Persian Gulf, Al Jazeera TV, the freest and most popular in the Arab world, recently ran a debate featuring the liberal Kuwaiti political scientist Shafeeq Ghabra versus an Islamist and a radical Arab nationalist. While the latter two tried to excuse Osama bin Laden, Mr. Ghabra hammered back: ``The Lebanese civil war was not an American creation; neither was the Iran-Iraq war; neither was bin Laden. These are our creations. We need to look inside. We cannot be in this blame-others mode forever.``

Dr. Abdelhameed al-Ansari, dean of Qatar University`s law school, wrote in Al Raya: ``How does a terrorist [bin Laden] become a hero? What is happening to the collective Arab outlook? What is happening to our famous Islamic scholars? . . . We should solve this problem from its roots. Education is the key.``

While Arab leaders have refused to acknowledge any Palestinian responsibility for the stalemate with Israel, a few weeks ago the Jerusalem-based Palestinian leader Sari Nusseibeh had the guts to criticize Palestinian strategy: ``We`re telling the Israelis we want to kick you out: it`s not that we want liberation, freedom and independence in the West Bank and Gaza, we want to kick you out of your home. And in order to make sure that the Israelis get the message, people go out to a disco or restaurant and blow themselves up. The whole thing is just crazy, ugly, totally counterproductive. The secret is to get Israelis to side with you. We lost our allies.``

The Bush team should tell our Arab partners: Look, we don`t need your bases or armies. We just need you to open your societies so the voices of those who want a different Arab future can really be heard. We`ll take care of bin Laden — but you have to take care of bin Ladenism.

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