A Journey Into Afghanistan

Re Zafar 125

``but already have one question re: your introduction above. Iss ka mathlab yeh hai ke Jay ko Mughal kah sakthe hain?``

Yeh baat shayad Harry Potter bata payega, after all only he knows... Ooops, sorry I thought you meant ``Muggles``.

Anyway reading Jay`s posts and his secular, tolerant vision I am convinced you are on the right track.

Subroto

2 hours to go, and then I am free.....Alvida chowkies hum chutti pay ja rehe hain.. ab Dilli is no more door ast, well 16hrs travel time but....

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Killing American troops is `sawab`

Quoted in Ausaf, Maulana Shah Ahmad Noorani of JUP said that all Pakistanis who see American troops anywhere should immediately kill them. If they do so, they will be given sawab (divine reward). He said that this activity of killing the Americans was made farz (duty) by Allah of which he had knowledge. He said in the 12th century AD, Salahuddin Ayubi was Islam`s hero; today it was Osama bin Laden.

Aitchisonians condemn America!

Editor Hamid Mir of Ausaf wrote in his column that CNN reporter Christiane Amanpour was greatly disabused when she interviewed children from Aitchison College Lahore and heard them say that America was unreliable and had eaten up Pakistan`s money which it had paid for the F-16s. They said they condemned the 11 September attack but would condemn Osama bin Laden only when they saw the proof that he had been guilty. The editor asked General Musharraf to add the boys to the 10 percent extremists who oppose him.

Jaish changes name!

According to Ausaf banned organisation Jaish-e-Muhammad led by Osama`s associate Maulana Masood Azhar had changed its name to Tahreekul Furqan. Jaish was created out of Harkat al-Mujahideen which was earlier Harkatul Ansar but was declared terrorist by the United States. Maulana Masood Azhar will be convener of the Tahreekul Furqan while the most powerful Deobandi cleric Mufti Shamzai will be its patron. The change of name was carried out because of the fear that Pakistan would confiscate the accounts of Jaish after Washington declared it terrorist.

Historian gets it wrong!

Famous historian Dr Safdar Mehmood writing in Jang said that an Indian patriot killed the butcher of Jallianwala Bagh, General Dyer, in Britain and was called a terrorist by the British government although for the Indian masses he was a hero. The truth is that Udham Singh did not assassinate General Reginald Dyer in London many years after his killing of hundreds of innocent people in Amritsar. Dyer had meanwhile died as a consequence of high blood pressure. The man Udham Singh killed was Sir Michael O`Dwyer who was governor of Punjab at the time his corps commander Julundhar, Dyer, did his sorry deed in Jallianwala Bagh.

Ads with women not allowed!

According to Khabrain, during a pro-Taliban protest march in Lahore, the processionists blacked out all the women on the hoardings on the city roads with paint and wrote Jehad Jamaat Islami on top to show their anger at the use of women in fuhush (obscene) advertisements.

He is mine!

According to Khabrain, poetess Rukhsana Nazi said that politician Malik Ghulam Mustafa Khar was a charming person who could possess any woman he liked. She said that once when he gave her his calling card another woman started fighting with her saying, `He is mine`.

Bush will leave office!

Daily Khabrain quoted a number of astrologers, including a lady called M.M. Bengalan, as saying that Osama would attack America next year too and that he would not be killed because he is protected with ghaibi taqat (invisible power). He would return to an Arab country after a successful war against America. Astrologer Sheikh Tariq Iqbal said in daily Pakistan that after November 15 the American invasion of Afghanistan will bog down and the decline and fall of President Bush will begin. After the American troops run away from Afghanistan, Bush will leave presidency. According to the astrologer, Mulla Umar will be in great difficulty and might even give way to a new government, but if he survived 2001, then victory would be his in the following years.

New justice in Sindh

According to Juhud-e-Haq monthly one Sardar Sher Muhammad Rind hands down novel verdicts for people living on his land. One Yusuf Rind went to the house of Mirza Rind and tried to rape his wife. Sher Muhammad Rind arranged for Yusuf to walk on fire. Before walking on fire, Yusuf`s feet were covered with blood of goat. After walking on fire, his feet were examined and were found unburnt. Yusuf was let go free because of the miracle. On other occasions, Sardar Sher Muhammad had thrown people into a tank full of crocodiles and if the culprit was not eaten up he was allowed to go free.

Have gun will travel!

According to Juhud-e-Haq, Darra Adam Khel of Pakistan`s Tribal Area had 40,000 families linked to the industry of making guns. Children were either not allowed to go to school or were inducted into manufacture of guns after school hours. After two years, all children became expert gun makers and got Rs 20 per day as salary. The tribes living in Darra Adam Khel are Zughunkhel, Akhurwal, Sheraki, Turchapar and Boshnikhel. Other trades included opium, heroin and alcohol. All boys stopped education after primary school. They also travelled with trucks and sometimes ended up in Karachi.

Sectarian mayhem in Karachi

Monthly Juhud-e-Haq gave the following account of sectarian killings in Karachi in which 14 people were killed in two months, August and September 2001. August 3, Dawat Islami (Barelvi Green Turbans) member Yusuf was killed while hoisting party flag. August 9, a Shia was killed in Eidgah area. August 13, three members of Dawat Islami (Barelvi Green Turban) were gunned down. The same day Qayyum Baba was killed in Orangi. The same day MQM`s Nasiruddin was killed. August 19 Dr Riaz, prominent Shia doctor, was done to death. August 21 Shia Jinn Baba Pir was killed. On August 24 Sikandar Awan was killed in Landhi while on September 10 Altaf Hussain was killed on University Road. On September 3, Allama Ali Hasnain Naqvi was shot near Arshi Cinema. On 12 September Maulana Razi Haider Naqvi was killed on Mehreen Chowk. He and his son were shot. On first September three people were killed the same day. Most of the people killed were Shia.

Mulla Umar will die!

Astrologer Mutiur Rehman speaking to daily Pakistan said that America will conquer Afghanistan and Mulla Umar will become shaheed while Osama bin Laden will escape. A lot of Americans will get killed, but Pakistan will come out of the crisis unharmed. Astrologer Fazal Karim said Osama will also become shaheed betrayed by a close friend with light eyes, black beard and a mole on his face. A girl will also become informer on him.

Masood Azhar flees Bahawalpur

According to Nawa-e-Waqt, chief of Jaish-e-Muhammad, renamed Tahreekul Furqan, Maulana Masood Azhar left his home in Bahawalpur along with his brother for an unknown destination. His militia`s name had already been changed by his patron Mufti Shamzai of Banuri Mosque in Karachi. His brother had participated in the hijacking of an aircraft that had led to Masood Azhar`s release from an Indian jail.

Where did the dollars go?

According to Jang, 60 billion dollars came into Pakistan during the last Afghan war but no one knew how the money was spent. The dollars poured in from the US, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the rich Arabs to fund the Afghan jehad. The question is what will happen to the money that Pakistan will get this time around for joining the world coalition against terrorism?

Osama is no prophet!

Quoted in Ausaf Allama Tahirul Qadiri said that Osama bin Laden was no prophet that millions should die for him. He said American attack on the cities of Afghanistan was no terrorism, and if the Afghan civilians were dying the fault was Mulla Umar`s. He said it was no jehad to blow up buildings and kill innocent people in America. Ausaf also reported Dr Israr Ahmad from Lahore that after America`s attack on Afghanistan the qital (massacre) of Americans and the British had become farz (obligatory) on the Muslims.

Taliban and royal ladies

Editor Ausaf Hamid Mir wrote in his column that great Pakistani soldier of Islam active in Herat Colonel (Retd) Sultan Amir Imam (once Pakistan`s consul general in Herat but now fighting for Taliban on his own) told him that the ladies of the royal family of Afghanistan resident in Herat told him that while they used the veil in front of all men they did not do so in front of the Taliban boys because they were so pious. They said if the Taliban went away the old mujahideen will return to dishonour them.

Gailani`s infamous commander

Revealed by editor Ausaf in his column, Pir Syed Ahmad Gailani, a leader of the old Afghan jehad was putting together an anti-Taliban moderate leadership in Peshawar. This was understandable because he hated the Taliban because Mulla Umar had put one of his right hand man Gul Agha to death because Gul was found to have married a boy in Kandahar and had spread havoc in the city with his homosexual pursuits.

Moderate plots against Taliban

According to Ausaf, moderate Afghans were busy plotting against the Taliban in the various cities of Pakistan. Pir Gailani and Commander Abdul Haq were active in Peshawar and Gul Shirazi in Quetta were spearheading this conspiracy and were spreading rumours that foreign minister Vakil Ahmad Mutawakkil and Maulvi Abdul Kabir had turned moderate and were joining the anti-Taliban movement.

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Zafar and Subroto,

You guys calling Islam a religion fit for the dinosaurs? /:o(

Alright, just kidding :)

P.S. Hmmmm...can`t help sending you a special :)

Just one example. The US government hijacked an election in Nicuarauga this

last week. GW Bush`s own brother mailed a loaded threat to the entire

country to either stand with the US by voting for the chosen US candidate,

or face the consequences. I am sure most of you did not hear this, but it

happened. Please imagine if the leader of Nicuaragua told every American to

vote for some bozo who would ruin this country, or else face the wrath of

the mightiest milititary in the world.

Quick!Do a double-take!at yourself!

Are you a human being or you merely think so?

Others think you are not there as yet.

Don`t believe it?Read ON!



Media Watchdog Condemns `War Against Islam` Statement By US General.



United Kingdom - 2 November, 2001 (PRN) IslamicSpeakers.org, the international Muslim media watchdog run by Western citizens, condemned as fascist the statement by US General Wesley Clark, that the US war against terrorism ``was a war over Islam`` that would define Islam ``as either a peaceful or militant`` force in society. General Wesley K. Clark was previously NATO`s Supreme Allied Commander Europe.

David Pidcock,[a white Muslim!]the body`s spokesman condemned the statement as outright fascism. The statement was aired on BBC World`s Hardtalk programme on 29/10/2001.

``This sort of supremacist statement would not be accepted in the West about Christianity or Judaism, in spite of the fact both these faiths have their own fair share of terrorist organizations, most of which have targeted western citizens,`` noted Pidcock.

``It is most disturbing to hear this public display of US extremism, that many now believe permeates the highest levels of US officialdom. Indeed, we see this statement as highly hypocritical coming from a man who directed most of the infamous U.S. military activities and interests in Latin America as well as commanding three companies in combat during Vietnam,`` added Pidcock.

IslamicSpeakers.org is campaigning to enlighten fellow westerners on the historical roots of terrorism as a modern phenomenon. The body sees the roots of this modern scourge beginning in 19th Century Europe, with the spread of secular materialist philosophy. They point out that secular fanaticism has resulted in disaster for humanity with violent ideologies such as racism, fascism, colonialism, communism, zionism and many other cruel secular world views based on conflict drawing strength from Europe`s materialist philosophy.

Darwin proposed that the `fight for survival` also applied between human races. According to that claim, `favoured races` were victorious in the struggle. Favoured races, in Darwin`s view, were white Europeans. African or Asian races had lagged behind in the struggle for survival. Darwin went further, and suggested that these races would soon lose the `struggle for survival` entirely, and thus disappear: ``At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the ``civilized`` races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the ``savage`` races throughout the world,`` states Darwin in his book subtitled ``The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life``.

``The problem is that with the spread of Darwinism and the materialist philosophy it supports, the answer to the question `What is a human being?` has changed. People who used to answer: `Human beings were created by God and have to live according to the morality He teaches` have now begun to think that `Man came into being by chance, and is an animal who developed with the fight for survival,`` confirms Pidcock.



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Bijli Reply #110

I have said that No Pakhtun and Punjabi

Just LA ILA HA ILALAHU MUHAMMADUR RASOOL ALLAH.

THEY ALL WERE MUSLIMS WHO IS IQBAL WHO CAN SAY THAT HE/SHE IS MUSLIM OR NOT.

ALLAH KNOWS BETTER

Nazis and Bush family history:



Government investigated Bush family`s financing of Hitler

By Carla Binion





December 21, 2000 | This article on Nazis in the Republican party was originally published in Online Journal on 1/28/00. However, the following includes additional information regarding George H. W. Bush`s father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert (Bert) Walker, and the fact that the U. S. government investigated their financing of Adolf Hitler.

One book referenced here, Christopher Simpson`s ``Blowback,`` was praised by journalist Seymour Hersh as ``the ultimate book about the worst kind of cold war thinking.`` Nora Levin, Director, Holocaust Archive, Gratz College, said ``The full story of this country`s shameful, cynical collaboration with Nazi criminals has not been told until now with the publication of Simpson`s book.`` Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman said, `Blowback` is a must read for anyone who wants to understand postwar policy on Nazi war criminals and the cold war.``

In another Simpson book, ``The Splendid Blonde Beast,`` the author wrote about George H. W. Bush`s father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert Walker. Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful financial supporters of Adolf Hitler.

Walker was president of Union Banking Corporation, a firm that traded with Germany and helped German industrialists consolidate Hitler`s political power. Simpson says Union Banking became a Nazi money-laundering machine.

Walker helped take over North American operations of Hamburg-Amerika Line, a shipping line and cover for I. G. Farben`s Nazi espionage unit in the U. S. Hamburg-Amerika smuggled in German agents, and brought in money for bribing American politicians to support Hitler. A 1934 congressional investigation showed Hamburg-Amerika subsidized Nazi propaganda efforts in the U. S.

George H. W. Bush`s father, Prescott, was a board member of Union Banking and a senior partner in a Union Banking affiliate—the investment firm Brown Brothers, Harriman. The U. S. government investigated both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush, and under the Trading with the Enemy Act seized all shares of Union Banking, including shares held by Prescott Bush. The government held that ``huge sections of Prescott Bush`s empire had been operated on behalf of Nazi Germany and had greatly assisted the German war effort.``

Investigative reporter Christopher Simpson says in ``Blowback`` that after World War II, Nazi émigrés were given CIA subsidies to build a far-right-wing power base in the U. S. These Nazis assumed prominent positions in the Republican Party`s ``ethnic outreach committees.`` Simpson documents the fact that these Nazis did not come to America as individuals but as part of organized groups with fascist political agendas. The Nazi agenda did not die along with Adolf Hitler. It moved to America (or a part of it did) and joined the far right of the Republican Party.

Simpson shows how the State Department and the CIA put high-ranking Nazis on the intelligence payroll ``for their expertise in propaganda and psychological warfare,`` among other purposes. The most important Nazi employed by the U.S. was Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler`s most senior eastern front military intelligence officer. After Germany`s defeat became certain, Gehlen offered the U. S. certain concessions in exchange for his own protection. Gehlen promoted hyped up cold war propaganda on behalf of the political right in this country, and helped shape U.S. perceptions of the cold war.

Journalist Russ Bellant (``Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party``) shows that Laszlo Pasztor, a convicted Nazi war collaborator, built the Republican émigré network. Pasztor, who served as adviser to Republican Paul Weyrich, belonged to the Hungarian Arrow Cross, a group that helped liquidate Hungary`s Jews. Pasztor was founding chairman of the Republican Heritage Groups Council.

Two months before the November 1988 presidential election, a small newspaper, Washington Jewish Week, disclosed that a coalition for the Bush campaign included a number of outspoken Nazis and anti-Semites. The article prompted six leaders of Bush`s coalition to resign.

According to Russ Bellant, Nazi collaborators involved in the Republican Party included:

(1) Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council`s executive director, and head of ``Bulgarians for Bush.`` Slavoff was a member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust denier, Austin App.

(2) Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of ``Romanians for Bush.`` Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa.

(3) Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer.

(4) Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime.

(5) Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP`s Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi groups.

(6) Bohdan Fedorak, leader of ``Ukranians for Bush.`` Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish wartime pogroms.

The Philadelphia Inquirer ran an article on the Bush team`s inclusion of Nazis (David Lee Preston, ``Fired Bush backer one of several with possible Nazi links,`` September 10, 1988.) The newspaper also ran an investigative series on Nazi members of the Bush coalition. The articles confirmed that the Bush team included members listed by Russ Bellant.

Journalist Martin A. Lee, has written for The Nation, Rolling Stone, The San Francisco Chronicle, and other publications. In ``The Beast Reawakens,`` Lee confirms that during both the Reagan and Bush years, the Republican Party`s ethnic outreach arm recruited members from the Nazi émigré network.

Lee says that the Republican Party`s ethnic outreach division had an outspoken hatred of President Jimmy Carter`s Office of Special Investigations (OSI), an organization dedicated to tracking down and prosecuting Nazi war collaborators who entered this country illegally. Former Republican Pat Buchanan attacked Carter`s OSI after it deported a few suspected Nazi war criminals.

According to Lee, public relations man Harold Keith Thompson was principal U.S. point man for the postwar Nazi support network known as die Spinne, or the Spider. In the late 40s and early 50s, Thompson worked as the chief North American representative for the remaining National Socialist German Worker`s Party and the SS. Lee writes that the wealthy Thompson gave generously to Republican candidates Senator Jesse Helms and would-be senator Oliver North. Thompson`s money gained him membership in the GOP`s Presidential Legion of Merit. Lee says Thompson also ``received numerous thank-you letters from the Republican National Committee.`` Those letters are now in the Hoover Institution Special Collections Library.

Christopher Simpson writes in ``Blowback`` that in 1983, Ronald Reagan presented a Medal of Freedom, the country`s highest civilian honor, to CIA émigré program consultant James Burnham. Burnham was a psychological warfare consultant who promoted something called ``liberationism.`` Just before the 1952 election, the CIA worked up a multimillion-dollar public relations campaign aimed at selling Americans on expanding cold war activities in Europe. Part of the guiding theory (given the name ``liberationism``) was the idea that certain Nazi leaders from World War II should be brought in as ``freedom fighters`` against the USSR.

Reagan said that Burnham`s ideas on liberation ``profoundly affected the way America views itself and the world,`` adding, ``I owe [Burnham] a personal debt, because throughout the years of traveling on the mashed-potato circuit I have quoted [him] widely.`` Reagan may not have known Burnham`s theories were based on his work on projects that enlisted many Nazi collaborators, but it seems that Reagan`s CIA Director Casey or former CIA Director, Vice President George Bush, would have informed him.

At a May 9, 1984 press conference, Simon Wiesenthal said, ``Nazi criminals were the principal beneficiaries of the Cold War.`` The cold war mentality, hyped by Reinhard Gehlen and other Nazis, became the shelter for tens of thousands of Nazi criminals. Helping the far right in this country to promote cold war hysteria became the Nazi war criminals ``reason for being.`` As Christopher Simpson says, the cold war became those criminals` means ``to avoid responsibility for the murders they had committed.``

Journalist Seymour Hersh says Christopher Simpson`s ``Blowback`` is ``the ultimate book about the worst kind of cold war thinking, in which some of our most respected statesmen made shameful decisions that they mistakenly believed to be justified.`` To this day, says Simpson, the U. S. intelligence agencies hide the scope of their post-World War II collaboration with Nazi criminals.

Are Republicans like George H. W. Bush, Oliver North, and Jesse Helms aware they have been assisted by Nazi collaborators? Bush once worked for the CIA and should have known about the nature of the Nazis in his `88 campaign. No doubt he knows the history of Nazi/CIA collaboration. Whether or not Bush knew of the fascists` involvement in his campaign, the Republican Party should have done a far better screening job. One thing is certain: The intelligence agencies know the scope and extent of Nazi involvement with the political right in this country. It is a shame they keep it hidden from the majority of the American people.









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Kill Pakis

Hehehehehehe Nobody can touch me. Mera nam sharp, sharpblade.Pakis are Kafirs.Pakis be afraid.

re: # 134

Chowk managers, please STOP it!

You ba *tard, whoever you are, you are worse than vermin. You must be the same mof who sent me that email. You know what, you are a coward, a bloody coward. If you picked on me at random, YOU go and die like a pitiful leach that you are. If you have got problems with me, come, let`s sort them out. I have dealt with asses like you. I will give you my real address. Let`s see what blades you have, you moron.

Gowardhan, I am assuming it is not you. I really am mad as hell, so you had better not be.

#100 stuka

I can almost picture ali1 ribbing his khalistani buddies in chico after they have smoked a few joints together - we hung the body parts of your gurus from meat hooks after we cut off their heads yukyukyuk...

But he is definitely not humored when it`s pointed out to him that his name in tamil means ``eunuch`` the improbable coincidence of which you`d think he`d appreciate given his anal fixation.

MAZARE SHARIF MAZARE SHARIF MAZARE SHARIF

LIBERATED LIBERATED LIBERATED

BEGINNING OF THE END OF SCOURGE CALLED TALIBANS

Thank you George Bush!!

Thank you Northern Alliance!!!

Thank you our American Pilots!!!!

For liberating the WOMEN OF MAZARE SHARIF.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Eklavya:

Dude, don`t worry about it. I read the post and knew it wasn`t you, as I am sure everyone who`s a regular poster here did too.

Ultimately a handle is just that, a handle. It`s the posts that count and the real you will always shine through your posts.

Soyasauce:

``I can almost picture ali1 ribbing his khalistani buddies in chico after they have smoked a few joints together - we hung the body parts of your gurus from meat hooks after we cut off their heads yukyukyuk...``

I dunno about Chico, but I have a lot of Khalistani friends in Boston. If he said something like this to their face, well, the Kirpan would be used to cut of a vital part of his body and hang it from his mouth.

btw, apparently there are still Asoka pillars from BC at various locations in Afghanistan, the writings advise the readers on matters such as the conduct of civil society.

Sometimes its hard to tell whether we have really progressed since BC.

Back to the present.
Is it likely that the Friday demonstrations in Pakistan may occur daily during Ramzan? Is this one reason for Musharraf to press for a pause in bombing during Ramzan?

soyasauce

ah yes. lets all gang up on him again.