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Giving Lip

Mahim Maher December 5, 2001

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#29 Posted by saminashah on December 8, 2001 2:32:08 pm
Afaqui Sahib,

Interesting, your rush to defense. Yes, I do extol the virtues of a society that does not attempt to censor art that interrogates institutions, icons, prejudices. For the record, I may not agree with the art or even like it, but I defend the right of the artist to create, the public to view, the individual to perceive/respond to it,as long as they don`t censor or destroy it. So bringing up Serrano is a bit of a moot point. Someone in my country likes him, and so I live with it. Secondly, are you suggesting your post in any way approaches an artistic expression? I`ve seen more humor, insight and craft on a National Geographic Show.

Thirdly, I just don`t ``get`` what your point in out crassing the next person is. The logic is...? Finally, Maher`s work is a poem that allows interpretation. Could the poem, like many poems be about desire? Is writing about desire a crime? Tell me, A Sahib, why did you react to such a small moment in a ridiculing manner?

Any student of poetry or literature understands the art of minimalism.Japanese and Chinese poets are the masters of this technique. Lets look at an example:

Slender Fingers

Slender, delicate, soft jade,

Fresh peeled spring onions-

They are always hidden in emerald

Sleeves of perfumed silk.

Yesterday on the lute strings

All their nails were painted scarlet.

Chao Luan-luan

This writer was a courtesan in the 8th Century, and is considered a decent poetess. Do deal with it.



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#28 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 8, 2001 9:59:37 am
sorry mistake in mywrite ok. I mean beautiful white skin not white blood. Explain: Jay is dark and we pakis are fair and white skin brings pleaser when person white like me in among dark indian muslims (mohajirs). I know know they feel dpresed for their dark color and every darki wants to marry whiter person, even women wasnts to marry hiter than character type (this is sad, my wife married me for both white coler and khandan type).I am worred my childs no marry darkis.They know they can get better DNA by marying Punjabi and sindhi. I do not care if preson is having lot of mony mony and white coler khandan type sindhi. but is limit ok. They are good but That what is DNA thing the poitess is saying. I think if little think you can understand.I am not rasist but i like white people to look at.It not right like that but even expak, does same.See Imran married white english, same mr gandhi , so it must be right.I think people give wrong mental about skin and esx i think.But good white skin and look can hurt man carier. My ex Fauji boss feels his wife feels me more handsom and he ugly. He troubl me i think that is mental reason.It is wrong but problom is that all movis in pk are hindu chhap and only beautiful people in that and boy and girl with even good religion train goes for buty and esx apeal.even i think religion enforces of 72 milk white =buty girls in haven for people slaughtered by jungali afghan, why not dark ugly.Anyway All lafangebazi. Any way good poim stimalated my esx thinking by lips and dna the look and coler, buty and race and dna, all power ful ok. good bye. Feeling hungry see what good food in our * * * * (4 star hotel)hotel on Dr. Ziauddin road. (note for hindu frends- this not in memory for General MO.Zia, past presedent general).good day. poim can stimulate man and woman true.



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#27 Posted by hamzadafaqui on December 8, 2001 9:59:37 am
DRUMS----23

I protest!

Why do you think only you have the monopoly on Bullsh1t?

Here is my bullsh1t

Bullsh1t

Between the azure & the green

how serene!

flowers,a riot of colours

moisture oozing tall trees

and I wonder

how is it possible?

how the hell is it possible

in this barren land no water no soil

and no one here to toil

everyone asking someone else to work

exhorts them the virtues of hard labour

and less(or no)pay

This enigma,riddle,cross-word,cheestan

landed me into this asylum

although by this time

I had it all figured out

but my fault blunder only this that

like eurika I had blurted it out loud

way way up ALOUD---& they heard it!

it was

B U L L S H 1 T.



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#26 Posted by hamzadafaqui on December 8, 2001 9:59:37 am
Scout----22

[[you sick pervert, go bury your head in crab infested sand.]]

Now what wrong have the crabs done to you that you punish them so.Crab-sadist are you not?

SaminaShah:--19

I thought of all people you are the one who appreciates such serious discourses on art & literature.No it was not for fun.

I think you are the one who was recently extolling the western-virtues of that piss in bottle & the icon(I cannot blasphem the name) art exhibit somewhere.

Today I read that another of your fellow traveller `artist` got a grant of 1300 dollars for his art exhibit in a gallery.The art?five vials of his sperm which he refreshes & produces by efficient wristwork.

Nothing is vulgar in the english language.They thrive on it and promote it.If we want to progress we must out-vulgar them.Is that not the reason heavy-tuitions,bribes,& connections were used to send us to Zero-level schools?

Quotable quote:``When you are spotted in heera mandi at dusk,do not pretend that you were on your way to the Badshahi Mosque``

____________________________.....

Instead of the `minimalist` comment your own explanation or understanding of it could have enlightened us a little about your capabilities too.

__________________________________________________

In case others are still guessing about the `message` in the poem let me give one hint:It is about the b-job.

Let mahim maher clarify.



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#25 Posted by Prem on December 8, 2001 9:59:37 am
ahmed madani # 24

Man, you are just too good! Even when I am in the foulest of moods, your posts lift up my spirits and brighten the world around me. Thank you.



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#24 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 8, 2001 12:14:08 am
Dear MM ... thank you very for poim. It hard to mental what is this poim about and what is problem.Poim should be song and sing type ok and like no structure like halal cutting of word.Its too much mental intelectual type write simple so madani can sing ok. Its about DNA or what or wasted beauty to have children.Is it what about shed some imortality or what to be punish by Shariat law. or is it about madanis stinking fauji boss making hard on me.What problem with school trained poim type. what is meaning. wrist is about saying costly watch or what?Liquior is prohib by islam. is it not. why all think about drink and lips. Lip is bad it drinks sharab- haram refreshmrnt. and imoral sex? yah madani knows esx is in our blood and its bad i say ok. Too mush esx and drink on chowk.DNA can be changed by moral religion education ok.Is it about Omar Mo. Mulla and our general Sahib and NS. YES in DNA omar and and NS two looser , general Sahib winner. It is called fate in urdu i simple people. you ex pak or foren visited people call DNA . every thing same. What use , i worry i am goind to die one day. Yesterday I went to pay last raspect felt whom i am to morn i am also going fast to death hope judgement day is not hard on my good body.I worry about my apeal to my dear wife. She is eating too much and not keeping figure.I do not like her at all . I think she knows it. I feel all stupid, sad, less sex people on chowk, women men same ok.Why happy man and woman worry about india pak let them fight, ok. Some time i wonder woman hate man for more wives, thay think they should have more men. I hate to think about it.I think they have more good and loyal to man . it is good for everybody.Atleast every body mother is real i think but father who knows. I think of effect of poem on me ver7y powerful. Yes i got it. we have DNA from babar, taimur,nadirshah, gazni,abdali, marshall rase dna.All warrer type white blood. Jay will never understand happiness of white blood



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#23 Posted by DRUMZ on December 8, 2001 12:14:08 am
Scout:

``dude, I Actually got your poem, it was about your fear and awe of a particular black lesbian, who might have made an appearance in your life.``

What can I say, guilty as charged. Your good scout, too good.

PS: That`s not hamzad, someone jacked his ID. Hamzad doesnt say bullsh1t like that (only I do...)



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#22 Posted by scout on December 7, 2001 9:25:03 pm
hamzad afaqui #16,

you sick pervert, go bury your head in crab infested sand.



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#21 Posted by scout on December 7, 2001 9:25:03 pm
DRUMZ #17,

dude, I Actually got your poem,

it was about your fear and awe of a particular black lesbian, who might have made an appearance in your life.



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#20 Posted by DRUMZ on December 7, 2001 9:25:03 pm
PS, Im only joking, poetry is good sh1t, I mean its ravishing, yes, ravishing.

I will leave now...



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#19 Posted by saminashah on December 7, 2001 5:49:18 pm
Afaqui Sahib,

If you didn`t like or understand the poem, you could have just said that. Could you explain why it was necessary for you to post your irrelevant and profane interact? Were you trying to be funny or disgusting?



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#18 Posted by Studebaker on December 7, 2001 5:49:18 pm
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#17 Posted by DRUMZ on December 7, 2001 5:49:18 pm
Scout you take the fun outta everything! Is it my fault that your brain is too small to decypher the words of a simple poem? Go complain to your DNA!

No, Im kidding, the last thing I wanna do is anger a cub scout. All the nastly little things you can do with shoelace and nailpolish...

Look, I agree, poems are kinda annoying. Anyone can do them. Sheit, off the top: my debut...

Bullsh1t, by Drumz...

Is it the Nebulaic majesty of the night?

...queiter and darker, or have I closed my eyes?

Inwards, She calls.

Another taste of the nurturing nector of the eternal soul...

I baske.

And for a brief moment,

Pluto`s misery calmly, drifts away...

Now then, anyone know what I was talking about, cuz I have nooo fukking clue...

No Im kidding, of course I know what that was about. I shall now explain myself to the uncouth. The poem was was a chronicle of numerous venerial diseases native to the Iberian peninsula Circa 1670.

For my next trick, I will teach all of you poetry. You will become a great poet like me in no time.

1. Write something down. Anything, the more adverbs the better. The words don`t have to have any relation to eachother. Hell they dont even have to be real words (``nebulaic``).

2. Show someone else what you`ve written. the second party is the key.

3. Invariably the reader will give you a puzzled look. At this moment, and only this moment, you must look at your reader with intense anger (ie. immulate the expression of the father in the scene where he tells his daughter that she`s no longer welcome in the family. He`s found out she was seen with a boy who wears a leather jacket.``)

4. Reader will now begin to question his own intelligence. There must be something wrong with him. Afterall, the poem did make sense to you-otherwise you wouldnt have written it...



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#16 Posted by hamzadafaqui on December 7, 2001 10:23:13 am
These are the private musings of a Paki ass(as in donkey) who has just been whipped 40 times by a uniform to mount a salivating Paki mare`s ass(as in -hole).The red red ass-hole is making the animal ass(as in donkey) wonder what will happen to his offspring? & if at all so possible,Can DNA & not AIDS be the result?Will the offspring go phhoren(thank you yourstruly)or get his Zero-Level here.What about the greencard?Are even mules under suspicion-- post-911.Even if he is a Democrats`legit seed?

And then the really big issues?OK so even if he has to mount this b/itch of a mare & not someone his level why can`t he at least have the freedom to get the real thing--few inches below.Some consolation though.At least the one who whipped was shouting in english.What a relief----phew!

And hey,the silver lining!the mare`s been around!was part of the Royal Stables on an exchange programme.No ordinary ass(as in -hole)this mare,the monarchs` own studs serviced her.

Oh what a fantasy this.First S&M and now the english connection! ``My cup(wink,I`m being polite)runneth over the rim.Got to go,got to mount``.





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#15 Posted by Bijli on December 7, 2001 10:23:13 am
Poet(&Poetess) utter such outrageous words (DNA)that they themselves dont understand well.

Thats why most of the good ones are dog drunk(ghalib &english one dont have taboo )before they can start speaking irrelevently in delerium like state of mind.Then the sane people are suppose to come next sheepishly peering through there bifiocal lenses ,trying to figure out meaning in each syllable like an ABSTRACT art.And when you looking intently either at sentence or a piece of paintings volumes of commentary just flows ....all in the name of ,like vitamins its suppose to be good for us.CULTURALLY !!



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#14 Posted by scout on December 7, 2001 10:23:13 am
DRUMZ #31,

what the hell do you mean....just go ahead and say it in plain English...is that so hard to do?



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