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So like sorry aamir, u butt head i called you loose you-know-what and I`m also sorry for calling you a choot piece- you did get that didnt you? i called you that and theres not a damn thing you can do about it. And theres something else i was to apologize for but i forgot so u can forget about it too.

Oh yeah- i shouldnt have said something that was not my business and also something personal about you that i shouldnt have and it was unethical and you know what, this is annoying me now.

Goodbye u numb skull, have a nice dysfunctional life; just dont make any babies- theres a limit to the damage we humans may inflict on mother earth (and no bumblebee, I will not apologize for this post)

....a very happy new year`s to everyone.....keep it safe...

Banjara,

I do hope that vajpaye will say the equivalent famous words, `` india has an obligation to create conditions ( for the return of refugees, that was Mrs gandhi) so that jihadis dont cross over to india``. Vajpaye is a geriatric disgusting gandhian and one can expect nothing from him.

regards

jay

Binifer

re: “MdBenaissa cum Aaamir “

…this mdben-whatever person doesn’t sound like the hydra….i mean no spelling errors, no randomly placed commas, almost coherent…..BUT, on the other hand, 25 cards/day???….

hamzad afaqui # 119

``. I want to tell you something very clear, don`t worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.``

Afaqui saheb,

The whole world knows that,so what`s the big deal.

Jay #113

``I hope this new year marks the dawn of a new india, ready to face the reality, ready to call the bluff. No more can a nation accept threats to its sacred institutions carried out by ruthless nations created on the ideology of religious bigotry. It is time to call the bluff, assert herself as a nation that will not accept terrorist acts. It has to be year of coming of age for india, finding her place under the sun.``

Dear Jay,

I hope your wish is fulfilled,but,I have my doubts.You see,the only MAN who could do it for

India was Indira Gandhi,who is no more.

My comisserations and best regards.

anNy #116

``michael bloody ondaatje``

Dont you dare `bloody` a proud Canadian,else you

will be in real trouble....ok :)))

PS: Happy new year.Now the jamaati`s are under

other ``pressure``,this new year party should be

awesome in good ol Karachi.

re: anNy

{? miss binifer will now apologize for butting into a matter that was off no business to her...you are right mr.aamir binifer needs help in being a good muslim..}

you do realize that aamir is the 12-headed, retarded, son of a ... don`t you?

In case some ignomaruses are still flaunting their western education & degrees(arty/farty only)from the western universities.

To the Aboo-Jahals of the Bhoora-Goraas:READ!--in the name of the Madrassas you never attended.READ!

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New York Journalist Recommends Military Action Against Arab News Station, Al Jazeera

Middle East News Online

By Hatem Anwar, Middle East News Online Reporter

Posted Monday October 15, 2001 - 11:03:56 AM EDT

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New York, USA - A writer openly advocated shutting down Al Jazeera, one of the most objective news stations in the Arab world, using military action.

Zev Chafets said that the news station propagates hate and should not be allowed to broadcast its programming.

Al Jazeera is unique in the Middle East for being the only news station that allows both competing opinions to openly debate sensitive issues, which were tabooed by state- controlled media for decades.

Al Jazeera was applauded by the United States for years and seen as a center of democracy in the Middle East. However, the station`s objectiveness while covering the war against Afghanistan has provoked angry comments by top American diplomats who demanded that Al Jazeera should ``tone it down``.

Using the New York Daily News as a medium to spread his ideas about military action against Al-Jazeera, Chafets claimed that ``Al Jazeera is the favorite network of Bin Laden. It provides him with an unedited forum for his calls to jihad.`` He stated ``Al Jazeera is far from legitimate. It is an Arab propaganda outfit controlled by the medieval government of Qatar that masquerades as a real media company.

For years, it has inflamed the Arab world against the United States and its allies. Its occasional interviews with Western statesmen, such as Secretary of State Powell, are designed to provide it with a fig leaf of objectivity.`` The writer expressed his concerns that by allowing Al Jazeera to freely broadcast from Afghanistan as fighting intensify would hurt the US image.

``Since the start of the American bombing, Al Jazeera has transmitted grainy pictures of the Afghan sky. But that will change. Soon the actual fighting will intensify, and we will be shown scenes of death and destruction and hear the cries of children. Men on the street will deplore the terrorism the Great Satan is visiting on innocent civilians. The suffering will be real.`` ``America cannot conceivably win the kind of war being waged against it without removing the threat of mass destruction. That means defeating and disarming the Islamic Axis. A struggle of this size inevitably will bring about major casualties.`` Although freedom of press in the United States allowed for free broadcasting of the war in Vietnam, the idea of having an Arab station carrying out such a task is a troublesome for the writer, who used dramatic terminology to express his views. ``Al Jazeera`s role is to present that killing as an unjustified slaughter, to bring the war into American living rooms as a horror show of satanic cruelty, starring President Bush as Dracula.`` He lamented ``A couple weeks ago, the State Department politely asked the government of Qatar to tone down Al Jazeera. The United States can`t expect favors from moderate Arab states whose leaders are terrified by their immoderate citizens.`` He recommended that ``dealing with Al Jazeera is a job for the military. Shutting it down should be an immediate priority because, left alone, it has the power to poison the air more efficiently and lethally than anthrax ever could.`` A news analyst told Middle East Wire in response to the vacuous attack on Al Jazeera, ``this is rather disturbing. When there is no freedom of the press in a country, that county is vilified and accused of being oppressive and undemocratic. Yet when a particular country makes a great efforts toward freedom of expression and democracy, you find those who advocate military action to have it silenced.`` He added, ``it`s even more disturbing that the writer uses American media to promote his hate-filled ideas, while objective news station that have never failed to present both sides of the coin is harshly criticized by American diplomats and constantly attacked by Israel.``

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US has already become unravelled.It is no more!Moth-eaten & termite-infested by constant lies & propaganda it has lost its moorings.It does not know Truth from Falsehood.

When this happens to any nation the only tools left to convince oneself of ones` righteousness are secret trials,witch-hunts,& cover-ups.

The monolith that imploded was not the buildings but a Myth once known as the US.

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Mistranslated Osama bin Laden Video - the German Press Investigates

by Craig Morris 7:16am Sun Dec 23 `01 (Modified on 9:31am Sun Dec 30 `01)

cmorris@t-online.de

A German TV show found that the White House`s translation of the ``confession`` video was not only inaccurate, but even ``manipulative``.

Mistranslated OBL video - Germany’s Channel One investigates

On 20 December 2001, German TV channel “Das Erste” broadcast its analysis of the White House’s translation of the OBL video that George Bush has called a “confession of guilt”. On the show “Monitor”, two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House’s translation not only to be inaccurate, but “manipulative”.

Arabist Dr. Abdel El M. Husseini, one of the translators, states, “I have carefully examined the Pentagon’s translation. This translation is very problematic. At the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of Bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic.”

Whereas the White House would have us believe that OBL admits that “We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy…”, translator Dr. Murad Alami finds that: “‘In advance’ is not said. The translation is wrong. At least when we look at the original Arabic, and there are no misunderstandings to allow us to read it into the original.”

At another point, the White House translation reads: “We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day.” Dr. Murad Alami: “‘Previous’ is never said. The subsequent statement that this event would take place on that day cannot be heard in the original Arabic version.”

The White House’s version also included the sentence “we asked each of them to go to America”, but Alami says the original formulation is in the passive along the lines of “they were required to go”. He also say that the sentence afterwards - “they didn’t know anything about the operation” - cannot be understood.

Prof. Gernot Rotter, professor of Islamic and Arabic Studies at the Asia-Africa Institute at the University of Hamburg sums it up: “The American translators who listened to the tapes and transcribed them apparently wrote a lot of things in that they wanted to hear but that cannot be heard on the tape no matter how many times you listen to it.”

Meanwhile the US press has not picked up on this story at all, reporting instead that a new translation has revealed that OBL even mentions the names of some of those involved. But the item is all over the German press, from Germany’s Channel One (“Das Erste” - the ones who broke the story, equivalent to NBC or the BBC) to ZDF (Channel Two) to Der Spiegel (the equivalent of TIME or the Economist - visit http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,174025,00.html

if you can read German). More surprisingly, as I write the following site appears on Lycos in German: http://www.netzeitung.de/servlets/page?section=1109&item=172422 - but nothing under lycos.com in English.

Instead, we read in the Washington Post of Friday, December 21, 2001 (the day after the German TV show was broadcast) that a new translation done in the US “also indicates bin Laden had even more knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon than was apparent in the original Defense Department translation.... Although the expanded version does not change the substance of what was released, it provides added details and color to what has been disclosed.”

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IN CASE SOMEONE MISSED THIS:

(So you still think there is room for intellectualism,analysis,& anal-retentive bookishness?)

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[What Ariel Sharon Said]

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP)

-- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and ``turn the US against us.``

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying ``every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don`t worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.``

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because ``it would cause us a public relations disaster.``

(c) IAP News

who let jay out of his cage? the animal is running around from board to board in a frenzy lately.

suxena #114,

finally, the first good thing to come out of this mess.

erm...how have i managed to come in the eye of the storm without even saying anything? miss binifer will now apologize for butting into a matter that was off no business to her...you are right mr.aamir binifer needs help in being a good muslim..i caught her eating three times this ramzan (and this was the only three times i tried)..and thank you sweetie for the cards :) u are indeed caring...one of the cards said `yae barish tumn kabhi nahin bhoolo gee`..i laughed so hard my spine almost broke again...didnt open the others for fear of permanent damage :0)

uncle shankar:

LOL...that was right on the mark (not aamir being the predator but my stress;)lets hope my man glories in my madness and cherishes it as much as you do your wife`s

sac:

no alto..imagine a newly acquired bright green foxy..now since im not allowed to drive for the next 15 years, try to imagine me in the backseat with the driver in the front seat..sadness no?

username:

michael bloody ondaatje

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uh oh, no more amitabh bacchan and `kaun banega crorepati` TV show for pakistan...guess `kaun banega jehadi` will have to do for now

{{The Pakistan government on Saturday directed all cable operators in the country to stop relaying broadcasts of Indian satellite TV channels, including the Star TV network, on the grounds that they indulged in propagating ``injurious material against the security of Pakistan``.}}