Borders are Made of These

There never has been talk of war between people.. Most of Inidans dont hate Pakistanis.. but the hate the idea of partition, idea of division, idea of division of people based on religion... So all this border we are talking abt is about religion based separatism.. None of you shallow peaceniks have courage to tell tell that the real solution to all these problems is to undo the partition.. Partition separating people with shared 5000 years of roots.. Only people benefitting from this division of people in our great Indian subcontinent have been outsiders.. Just take a look at recent and past histories.. When all have our great land been captured and looted by foreigners only when we were divided. Thats what is happening today. Chinese, Russians, Americans are basically looting our sub-continent, looting our money by selling costly arms.. Only solution is undo this partition and have local level empowerment of people..

For this undoing, all those people who stand for this partition have to be destroyed. Let there be war.. Let there be holocaust even.. I think something better will come out of this ``manthan``.. It will surely purge the divisive forces.. I will get rid of all the fascist voices of partition..

Let there be unified subcontinent..

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[I watch the serial ‘Sarhedein’ on Zee TV. A Pakistani boy falls in love with an Indian girl in Kuala Lumpur. She is a Hindu. He follows her to India. Her brother is fighting on the front against the Pakis. Aman and Chandni could have been a model, but it will not happen. Because we do not want it to.]

Yes, Farzana, it happens. But it happens quietly and doesn`t make the TV news. And it happens among people you don`t know. But that doesn`t mean it doesn`t happen.

In the city of Bombay, two of my niece`s classmates (nice Gujarati boys) have married Muslim girls. We are talking anti-Muslim, Shiv-Sena- and Bal-Thakrey-dominated Bombay.

I have had occasion to mention a Muslim colleague who met and married an Iyer girl in Poona. Again, in Shiv Sena dominated Maharashtra.

Last week, I learnt that a close friend`s nephew is marrying his Muslim co-worker. He is a Tamil Brahmin from Madras.

You are talking about a fictional depiction in a TV serial and complain about the unfair portrayal of Muslims.

Let me give you a real picture.

My friend`s mother left Karachi in Aug 1947 with her children and the clothes on her back. Her husband stayed behind and returned to India after seeing to it that all the Indians were evacuated safely out of Karachi. He was the last South Indian to leave. For years his wife didn`t know if her husband would return alive from Pakistan. He and every Indian who left Karachi came to India with just the clothes on their backs. They were stripped of all their personal possessions and their money in order for them to leave Pakistan.

We are not talking about the madness of Partition. We are talking 7 years later. Where was the Quranic injunction about cutting off the hands of thieves? Is it okay to steal the kafir`s money and possessions? Is that what is says in the Quran?

So take your ``Poor lttle me, I am being discriminated against because I am a Muslim and Muslims are depicted unfairly on TV serials`` crap somewhere else. I know the reality whereas you watch TV and take that to be the reality.

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Thank you Farzana for that. Eloquent as always; ``From here I shall make my own borders - that hazy line where the sky meets the sea``.

The recent threat has forced us, those who live on both sides of the war, to re-examine ourselves. Starting with Arundhati Roy and all the way to this one, there have been a series of articles, voices echoing for sanity to prevail in the face of this immeasurable horror. Good that finally we come to our senses. That we recognise the similar need to live and breathe and practise love with those we know. Anything but war.

Although I have quoted this excerpt elsewhere, in another post, I`d like to share it now too for it is uncannily appropriate for our damned days.



``Now is not the time for verbal swordplay, for unlikely flights of imagination and wildly shifting perspectives, for metaphysical conceit, for wit. . . .Now is a time for simplicity. Now is a time for, dare I say it, kindness.`` - Margaret Edison, ``W;t``, Winner of the Pulitzer Prize for drama, 1999.

Aamir

Farzana:

``...A Pakistani boy falls in love with an Indian girl in Kuala Lumpur. She is a Hindu. He follows her to India. Her brother is fighting on the front against the Pakis...``

This really happened to a classmate of mine. She was the daughter of a the Naval Chief in India. She fell in love with and married a Pakistani. It was a small sensation -- and was reported all over the media.

``And am I equipped to protect my country against terrorists?...I don’t want to...My enemies are only those who want to rob me of my identity, wherever they are...``

And what if the enemy are the cohorts of the Taleban/Al Qaeda, who dislike the fact that you are educated, can dress without having to bow to anyone else`s sensibilities, and cannot stand the fact that you can work to earn your living, drive a car, and vote against whomsover you wish? Will you give in like the millions of women in Afghanistan who were so deprived?

Happy New Year!

Great writing here Farzana.
Let us openly talk about geographical and ideological borders even though some of us know that the human heart recognizes neither. Let us keep fighting for our rights wherever we may happen to be.

Ras

PS:See Below

HELP TO STOP WAR IN SOUTH ASIA

All who value peace and human life need to intervene and stop war in South Asia. India and Pakistan are poised to engage in such a misadventure as their respective troops and missiles (possibly nuclear) face each other on their border and on the Line of Control in Kashmir. This is happening while we in the United States are busy watching the news from neighboring Afghanistan.

People of Indian and Pakistani origin especially need to wake up to the reality of what kind of misery this conflict will produce. Our armchair warmongers of South Asian origin who now make their homes outside the region, in Europe, Canada and here in the United States need to get a large dose of reality.

Some Pakistanis are arranging a peace march at a Northern California venue (exact date and place to be decided) this week and urge all from the South Asian (aka “Desi”) Diaspora and their friends to protest against the possibility of war between India and Pakistan. I hope that Americans will join us and show solidarity with the pursuit of sanity in the region. Let us have a happy, peaceful and prosperous new year in a part of the world where the misery of poverty already rules the streets. Help us stop this looming war.

dost-mittar #237 This is the site which has the song and others. No name of the singer there, though.

http://www.always-safe.com/xmas/realplayer/

sadna

“semipreciousme #214

You seem to have misunderstood my comments to Farzana, I suggest you read them again. Anyone in the world is free to comment on things Indian, as far as I am concerned.”

…my apologies if i took you out of context…

Dost Mittar: Hope you got the recording I sent.

anNy;

[Pls tell me if you are because i dont like such cheek and that also coming from young men like yourself who I eat for breakfast]

- You are so cute.

(In a non-patronising, genuinely charmed by you sort of way....)

:)

all you people obsessed with achaars are gonna have horrible skin...all that grease has to go somewhere...

anNy:

“but there is no achaar like the leembo ka achaar this 80 year old bua makes at the haveli in ahmedabad...youre left licking yur fingers and craving like crazy for more after a whole bottle thatll give ulcers to anyone...”

….and i say there’s nothing as finger lickin good as the mango ka aachar my nani ama makes…no limo shimo or allo shallo ka aachar can hold a candle to that…just the right amount of ripeness, loads of saunf and mirchein…..mmmm….

ps....hey anNy, pringles ka achaar....?

pmishra2 (218) ``Wadera -- please add your authoritative insight in this space.``

Umm -hmmmm .... `authoritative insight` ...? Well ...um ... really, not since Class IV when I took it upon myself to bring to order a recalcitrant wood rose vine (the teacher`s prized item) was the word `authoratitive` used ....(insert modest smile and a self-deprecating shrug here ...) Come to think of it, it was actually ANOTHER word he used...

But seriously, the one thing I can say with certainty is that the goons (whoever they may be) who killed innocent people (Hindus in this case) can only be called murderers.

achaar discussion

my fav is pachranga - esp the lotus stalks !! you lucky lucky people - you dont have to pick&choose betw complexion and achaar!

aicha

``Not as funny as you Pakis...``

Harpreet are u getting cute with me again? I`m not sure. Pls tell me if you are because i dont like such cheek and that also coming from young men like yourself who I eat for breakfast. If, however that was a compliment, thank u very much. We are indeed, a great people.

dosmittarjee:

I was waiting to write after having confirmed the aloo ka achaar. There is an aloo ka achaar and it is different from the khatae aloo others on the board are talking off. My aunt also says its very difficult to make...takes a few days. The aloo apparently has to be sookhofied. You know, all this talk of an achaar reminds me of this positively killing achaar a distant aunt of my fathers makes for niaz (a sort of offering) when they have their majlis every moharram. i GO for the achaar and steal as much as i can the next afternoon when i just `drop in` to say salaam...then eat it rookha. Full ulcer scene. :0) Saeb ka achaar? if you can, do ask your bhabhi to give you the recipe and post it here or mail it to me..apple pickle! say, have u tasted carrot pickle by any chance? kachae gajar ka achaar...

haii, i see my chai-chillichips diet flying out the window :(