1971: A Forgotten Story

Javed Iqbal;

``Zico, Rsux, spgalph and other dhoti/lungi clads, I will get back to you over the weekend. Don`t have much time now.``

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Javed (ali1) doesnt have much time because he was busy with his two African-American boyfriends, Leroy and Calvin. They have a subscription porn site....3 way Paki-Afro boy action. Ali is a popular player, I hear he has some frat boys coming up next. Wears his Shalwaar kameez for exotic effect.

Prem # 122

excuse me?

re: Romair # 123

There is a better way for South Asians: being honest.

Prem

“….and studebaker is certainly creative.”

…ahem…well, that’s one way of putting it…

DRUMZ

{I am a mountain. I am tall tree. I am a swift wind - sweeping the country...

I am a river, down in the valley. Oh I am a vision, and I can see clearly.

If anybody ask u who I am, Just stand up tall, look em in the face and say...

(((who wants 2 sing back up?)))

Im that star up in the sky, Im that mountain way up high. Wait a minute: Im the worlds GREATEST.

And Im that little bit of hope, when my back`s against the ropes. I can feel it: Im the worlds GREATEST.`` }

….such humility….i’m sure you’ve made rkelly proud…:)

I fail to understand the debate that is going on here about the presence of Indian soldiers in Pakistani jail. If India says there are Indian soldiers in Pakistani jails, then of course, there must be. Why exactly are Pakistanis attempting to ask India for proof, for names, for an explanation of what Pakistan would gain from keeping POWs for so long.

It is useless to debate a point that has already been unilaterally decided. If India says Pakistan did something, then it should be taken as a given that Pakistan did it. This is the civilised way to handle situations and conflicts in South Asia. It will result in all of us become better people and friends. Legalities or logic should be avoided.

So, Guess Who`s coming to dinner? It`s the Pakistanis. Who`s Afraid of Virgina Wolf? Of course, the Pakistanis. And Who shot Potakango? Indians don`t need to tell me, I know, Pakistan did. And, Look Who`s Talking? Its always the Pakistanis. And of course, my favorite, Who framed Roger Rabbit? Guilty as charged, it was us Pakistanis.

All Pakistanis must bow to the great Oracle, L.K. Advani. All Indians have already bowed to him.

I spent a few months with a Pakistani Commando unit in Peshawar. One thing I noticed about them was that when they got angry, it was attack, and more attack. Whether they were killed, was a secondary issue. Musharraf is the senior most member of Pakistan Army`s Special Forces. So far, he has only shown his sophisticated Muhajir cultured face. I hope Indians, like myself, are praying, he doesn`t lose his cool, and turns into a Pakistani Advani. One side needs to maintain its sanity, to avoid war.

In an Indian Pakistani war, believe me, there will only be losers, no winners. There are many Pakistani soldiers who are missing in action, also. Are they still in Indian POW camps? Please stop your nonstop, illegal, lacking in proof, arrogant, and holier than thou accusations.

Sorry, DRUMZ - I forgot to mention the link is called:``songs of love and devotion``

Reply Harimiaowmiaowmiaow #117

Bow Wow! Moooooooo!!!! MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Chowk Editors and Chowkwallahs:

Apologies for sidetracking this board temporarily, but I have a request of all chowkwallahs:

I don`t know if I am the only one who has this difficulty, but many times on Chowk I`ve wanted to follow more than two reply threads and to have them visible on the screen at the same time. Rather than simply make a request, I`ve tried to solve this, and have put together a sample Chowk site at:

http://members.home.net/qawwalli1/

At the bottom of the page are links to the sample site. This is what you need to click on. To get into it the user name is: concept and the password is also: concept (both lower case). The page that comes up has a link called ``redesigned chowk``.

My humble request is to ask as many of you as possible to look at it and let me know if it just a waste of time or if it really is something useful. If useful, Chowk Editors, you may have it (if you like it of course!)

Now, for DRUMZ (and actually for others who may be interested as well): DRUMZ, a while ago you had made a comment that you did not find Islam deep enough or profound enough. That makes me ask of you a small favor: I`ve provided a link (named ``DRUMZ``) which will take you to an article on the same site. Hope you find it readable enough - I`d really like to hear your comments after you read it. No problem if you don`t (at worst you can always click right out of it!)

For those who explore the site further (there are visual goodies!) A warning!! This is a site that has Flash/audio and needs a cable or fast connection. Please explore, move the mouse around and click away everywhere on the fashion site page.

Scout # 106

Anybody can feel a tad jealous if their spouse/man/woman were to become so wildly popular. You should probably reassure her a teeny-tiny bit.

No-expert-in-love (Prem)

re: saminashah # 120

If you use the word ``hain`` once again, I will begin to suspect that you are reading Lajwanti too closely (since under no circumstances you, it could be you using that nick).

:)

Best regards.

Prem

soundmeister,

Arre, what have you got against ``bloody ABCDs``, hain? Anyway, what did that term mean?

My Ummi Jan keeps asking where I am learning these new vocabulary words from....

Ref Lajwanti #: 113

[Plx,you arenot Harimiaouw’s brother/sister/cousin/aunt/uncle!!!!!!]

That is so true! Allah be praised!

Searching for some other information, I came across the following. I do hope we get our act together -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1527000/1527246.stm

Wednesday, 5 September, 2001, 15:24 GMT 16:24 UK

`No Indian PoWs in Pakistan`

India says that its missing soldiers are still in Pakistan

By Zaffar Abbas in Islamabad

Pakistan`s Interior Minister, Moinuddin Haider, says investigations have confirmed that there are no Indian prisoners of war (PoWs) in the country.

The inquiries were carried out by Pakistan`s intelligence agencies and the four provincial governments.

India has often asked for the return of 54 Indian soldiers who Delhi says were taken prisoner during the 1971 war between the two countries.

The issue was raised at the recent Agra summit



A government spokesman in Islamabad said the interior minister had informed the federal cabinet that not a single Indian PoW was in Pakistan.

The issue of the missing Indian PoWs is nearly three decades old and is raised whenever a dialogue is initiated between Delhi and Islamabad.

Summit

India raised it once again in July this year during a summit between the Indian Prime Minister, Atal Behari Vajpayee, and the Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf.

At the time General Musharraf denied that there were any Indian PoWs in Pakistan but on his return from India ordered a thorough investigation into the issue.

The Indian authorities were also asked to give details of the people who Delhi believes were in Pakistan`s custody.

The spokesman in Islamabad said it has been confirmed beyond doubt that Pakistan is not holding any Indian PoWs.

But he refused to say if some of those alleged missing by India might have died during detention in Pakistan.

See also:

18 Jul 01 | South Asia

Pakistan investigates Indian POWs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1444000/1444416.stm

09 May 00 | South Asia

PoW release appeal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_742000/742465.stm



21 Aug 99 | South Asia

India and Pakistan in PoW row

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_426000/426723.stm

06 Jul 01 | South Asia

India and Pakistan: Troubled relations

ali1 #92:

``soundmeister bhosdi-ke, quit name calling or be prepared to get back what you hurl, multiplied by 100.``

Wow.... and I get so many posts withheld because the ``language contained is offensive``..... someone sitting there monitoring this needs to brush up on his Hindi.... bloody ABCD no doubt .

Reply Ali1 # 112

“Lajwanti, don`t get jealous babe. My sexuality is none of your concern.”

I’m nOT JEALOUSY!!!!!!!! TRULY!!!!!! yore like my chote behain, ok?Donot be angry likethis ok, I am onlyfriend. I swear, nothing BAD!

I am only trying helping you when you say things that make people laugh at you. Only because I think you are goodper son and Idon carewhether other peopl make fun only because when you talk about lingas and all they don’t listen whgen you say truth about Madrasi uncle/neive nasty behaviur; bigno no, etc.Nowt do you undersand? Youdneed help, and ofcours because Iadmire your coourag I want to help. Alsoyou are antiHindia/Hing/Devdasni/Banagala cultures

Ok,ok. Iwon’task about your sexulitybecause its nobody’s buesness. Butlet me advise you

IGNOIRE when peple make funof yourname. It is notyour falt its means dity thing in Madrasi. Lethem laugh – theirmind is diry, not yourname. Butfor this reaosn you shouldnot talkabout lingas. Thatis THEIR DEVDASNICULTUREWAY – not OUR WAYT. Hing isnice cleanword – whydon’t you use that, hain? Thene peoplewill think you a4re clean person, not dity. And Madrassis canot make fun of hIng. Orhni is alsogood word. Rotton eggjhoke was V GOOD!!!! Makemore.

GET IT?????

IGNORE when peoleuse complicate word – your niyatis beterthan theirs. You understad enogh to tell them truth about Paksitan/Hindia. That isall they ned to know.Who cares what their JAHIL wordsmean, hain? Nobodyis listerning…

GETITIT????

Ok. Plz thank about this. AndI swear I am NOT JEALOUS! RTHat is lie made upby Hindians,don’ty believe plz.I am nottalking nasty thingsto you, why you are thinking about me, hain? Whosaid, hain, Harimiaouw?Whjy you are believing Hindians? Sigalph? Whjy you are beleiving Bangla, you are forgetting 1971 betrayal, Agartala? YOU AND ME are on S%%AME SIDE!!!!!! Tryto remember. Plx,you arenot Harimiaouw’s brother/sister/cousin/aunt/uncle!!!!!! Soshow some loyalty.

OK???