1971: A Forgotten Story

Reply ali1, AVR # 157

``Reply # 152 audio-video-radio

[As a student of socialogy, I am genuinely interested to know about the gay community, its size, prevalence and potentiality in Pakistan]

Dear avr, I cordially invite you to Pakistan to explore the size, potential etc. I assure you a most memorable and pleasurable stay``

Hmmm...this sounds like a less than completely altruistic invitation. Khair...AVR, please have a shower before going and also wear clean chaddees. Desh ki izzat ka savaal hai...

saminashah #120:

ABCD nahin maloom? Just about sums up the Indians and Pakistanis on chowk and elsewhere... show this list to your Ummi...

RSax et all: *Atal Behari Cool Daddy....

*Al-Qaeda Bal-Qaeda Carnivorous Dacoits

Urstruly at al: *All Brahmins Cruel Dalitbashers

*All Bharatiyas Cowardly Dogs

Baaki junta: *Arre Bhai, Cool Down

*Asians Bhai-Chaara Dikhaye

ali1 et al: Arre BhoCD ke...

..... and ultimately....

Shankar et al: All bloody crude desis

Hope this clarifies :),

SM

DRUMZ,

I wouldn`t know much about them. My guess is one of those two good ladies is bad, while the other is worse.

audio-video-radio # 152

I am not sure why I should respond to you. One, I detest you. Two, I care deeply for someone who does not support homosexuality. Three, you are likely to use any information I provide against Pakistan, justified or not.

Still, since you claim to be a sociologist, and sociologists are supposed to possess a ``sociological imagination,`` it will require no intelligence on your part to see that the whole issue of homosexuality is tied up with other issues of deviance, control, and therefore, modes of control such as religion. I hope you will read the following to understand that when it comes to sex, Pakistan is just like any other society, normal or abnormal.

Info:

To begin, you may want to read the book ``Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History and Literature,`` published by the NYU Press. The book is written by Stephen Murray and Will Roscoe, and situates the problem in the context of a religious identity.

More specific to Pakistan, look into research on the subject of Pakistani homosexuality, conducted by some Pakistanis (can`t recall their names right now) at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. Their conclusion, if I remember right, was that excessive focus on segregating males and females was a primary cause leading men to turn into homosexuals. IMO, that is only a partial explanation.

For the legal, formal status of homosexuals and homosexuality in Pakistan, go to -

http://www.ilga.org/Information/legal_survey/asia_pacific/pakistan.htm# *Laws

The World Health Organization has also been concerned about the spread of HIV/AIDS in Pakistan, as in India, accelerated by these societies` refusal/inability to confront the issue of homosexuality openly. Visit their website at

http://www.who.int

and you will get a ton of information on Pakistan, homosexuality and AIDS.

ali1 #146 ``Thanks for your vigilance and protecting decent chowk.com readers from vulgar postings written by hate filled individuals..``

Ha! Ha! It is too bad that you have had to put up with such vulgarities on the internet.

RSaxena #158
Um thanks for the tips, brings back memories of journeys back in desh :).

Though re NY wish I could figure whats the fun in being forced to squeeze past the eternally double-parked and dodge the crazies which arenot, simply to get from point A to a nearby point B on legitimate business? Or measure ones worth in the world with the street number on ones address or have to seek meaning in the saga of so many people piled upon each other anyhow on a small island(or two), all wearing black ...?

Oops, NOW I am condemned to eternal hell :)

Reply # 147 sadna

[``Chowk Staff This last nautanki reminds me(thankfully) that this is a Pakistani site``]

Thats why they let you call them ``Pukistani`` and

thats why your posts are posted on chowk the moment you excrete them? Your nautankis remind us of the ungrateful nature of Indians...

[``and if your precious Musharraf keeps his word about jihadis I will no longer feel the need to post here.``]

I hope it never happens... we`ll all miss your nautankis so much, won`t we?

Farzana & other chowkies -

Farzana recently reviewed Gadar for us. Here is another review. This time from other side of broder - will Farzana or somebody else care to review it further for us --

(and before you start picking spellos in following - it has been taken from www.funkar.com)

---- Moosa Khan

The son of a ever remain, legend producer of our film industry Riaz Shahid and his mother the most fantasy heroine of her time of our country Neelo, now you must be recognize who is this? Yes you are right he is the only and only one Shan of our film industry SHAN. After the countrywide success of Guns and Roses ik junoon and Mujay chand chaye, this year he is again coming for making your Eid unforgettable with full of creativity and innovation in MUSA KHAN. This time he is not coming only as a director but also as a producer for entertaining us in excellent way. You will find the touch of Zarqa and Ye Amman (most block bluster movies of our industry) that he inherited from his father.

History always repeats itself, In those nations where we find rising of black Sun at day and at night appearance bloodish moon where bloodshed is every where ,criminal become a King. Truth is at our foot and lie is the crown of our head. Here always God Almighty send a Musa among the same nation who covers river Neil and desserts with all the hardships for crushing Ferone.

In this ultimate movie we again find one Musa who is fighting against the community of Ferone for bringing them at right path of Islam, but this time not in Egypt in Kasmeer Nagar (a small town) here the population consist on 60% of Hindus and 40% of Muslims .In this movie you will find Shan is fully participating for offering his services with the community of Ferone (shafqat Cheema, Tariq Shah and Hamayu Qurashi) for the development of evil day and night by joining hands with Hindus. Actually Shan is the son of Mufti Shaib of Kasmeer Nagar . How Shan become a worst guy of Kashmir Nagar? Why he joins hand with Hindus? Who is the Musa ? How Musa crushes all the evil people? Is he succeeded in his mission? You will get the answer of all these question in the wonderful movie of Shan MUSA. MUSA KHAN is the fight between Peace and war, The race between nobility and crime.

You will find Shan in this movie at the peak of his carrier with the versatility of acting and direction. This unique piece of art is actually a religion movie with the touch of love, romance, comic and action. Samia is appearing with full of her innocence, you will really appreciate her acting. John Rambo first time is appearing on screen as serious and mature actor acting with his comics. You will definitely appreciate his performance. Laila and Ali Humza first time get the chance to show their abilities. Young and talented singer Jawed Ahmed compose all the songs with melodious and lovely tunes.

It is the most expensive movie of our film industry the cost is near about TWO BILLIONS

The whole movie is shooted at the beautiful locations of Swat Valley and at the barren land of Chelass Fort which indicates two opposite pictures of life (good and Ugly). Even the horses are used in this movie are Arabian Horse, a same horse is used by Musa in the whole movie where ever he is in Swat or in Chelass Fort. From this thing you can imagine how much hard work done on it. The direction and the production of the movie are really marvelous. Along with the disaster action you will find in it love and romance with Grate God Almighty and with his nation. There is a long impact lesson for Muslims in this movie.

ali1 #167
`` Your nautankis remind us of the ungrateful nature of Indians...``

You are protected from obscene posts so what are you whining about now? If chowk staff doesnot respond to my repeated requests over the last year to be put on the moderated list, thats their problem and yours.

And I am immeasureably grateful for all my interactions with you ali1, donot worry.

`` I hope it never happens, we`ll all miss your nautankis so much, won`t we?``

I donot think so. I can never aspire to the enlightening R-rated variety which are your speciality.

And scout takes an early lead...

``don`t talk about me behind my back...it`s so damn annoying.``

splain how I can do anything behind anyone`s back on the INTERNET... (unless your asz is the size of the equator - itz a joke - that makes no sense).

Anaryan: I already said I was Paki so the chances of me having Either ``Muhammed`` or ``ali`` in my name are steady at 89%. That I have BOTH of them in my name should reveal something about the creativity level of my parents...

U know what Namaste means right? Splain how these evil ``adults`` have stolen the minds of the youth and brainwashed them into thinking humbility is God-like. So even when someone is great and knows he`s great, he`ll still say ``I have much to learn...`` What kinda sh1t iz that (WHOM are they trying to fool)??? We have people masquerading their true opinions under the guise of humility (and really self righteousness).

Why the hell can`t we walk around as gods on this plane(t). Look, I WILL change the world, period. I dont want anything to do with people who arent like minded. We`re Gods not slaves. That sheepish, weak azz defeatest mindset can hit the road. If ur great, say ur great (dont lie to yaself and us).

The worldz GREATEST.

(((I should say this post is REACTIONary)))

And speaking of weak minds... Nobody, but NOBODY can tell me where my fam starts and stops. So some foolish Kings and beaurocrats divided up the great subcontinent 50+ years ago, Im supposed to divide my roots too?

Somebody explain to me how weak one has to be to call himself an indian or paki. That u can allow people born before u to dictate where ur own land iz. People risk their lives for their country and yall just take what ur given, never question it and even DEFEND it?!

Prem #163,

traitor

isnt urstruly also not on the moderated list?

LOL

DRUMZ #170,

your just digging your grave deeper and deeper brother

Scout: Dont sing it, bring it.

sadna-147

``and if your precious Musharraf keeps his word about jihadis I will no longer feel the need to post here.``

That would be the day.We will call it ``Youm-e-najaat.``