Mohammad Gill January 15, 2002
#1 Posted by GSCheema on January 16, 2002 1:30:03 am
Pakistan has Gills? I thought all of them came to our side! So sad. It is painful to see this word Muhammad with Gill and without any Singh.
Article of course is good and written in a style which is becoming of Gills only. Good Job!
Article of course is good and written in a style which is becoming of Gills only. Good Job!
#2 Posted by Prem on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
One of my heroes...it is good to see the wider Chowk community being introduced to him.
#3 Posted by ali1 on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
Reply # 1 GSCheema
[``It is painful to see this word Muhammad with Gill and without any Singh.``]
GSCheema, like most of us Pakistanis, Muhammad is confused about his identity (see Anwar Iqbal`s article) and has forgotten his Punjabi heritage and ancestoral religion. Please forgive him.
Muhammad Gill, apna naaN badal yaar, veekh te sahi, sardar ji di dhui vich mirch lagaN-dai ay.
[``It is painful to see this word Muhammad with Gill and without any Singh.``]
GSCheema, like most of us Pakistanis, Muhammad is confused about his identity (see Anwar Iqbal`s article) and has forgotten his Punjabi heritage and ancestoral religion. Please forgive him.
Muhammad Gill, apna naaN badal yaar, veekh te sahi, sardar ji di dhui vich mirch lagaN-dai ay.
#4 Posted by veeresh on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
Oh boy! I didn`t know that even ``Gill`` was a Muslim surname! Wait till I tell Glenn Turner about this . . .
#6 Posted by Shatru Sinha on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
``Great wits are sure to madness near allied,
And thin partitions do their bounds divide``
Mohommed Gill
Is there any evidence that Ramanujen himself ,was ALSO schizophrenic?
I have read some bio graphy of Ramanujen,& Indian govt.Did honour by releasing a limited edition Postal Stamp in his honour in 1960 which is collectors item for a past philatelist like me .
Ramanujen died very young upon return from England.He was ravished by malnutrition (resulting in oppertunistic T.b.)because of his understandably strict vegeterian dietery adherence.In U.K. total inability of maintaining adequate nutritional need of any human.Given British diet taboo and absolutely brutal to non meat eater.
Unfortunately ,Ramanujen,didnt live long enough ,who knows may be for better to avoid being vegetative by crippling severe schizophrenia himself.
And thin partitions do their bounds divide``
Mohommed Gill
Is there any evidence that Ramanujen himself ,was ALSO schizophrenic?
I have read some bio graphy of Ramanujen,& Indian govt.Did honour by releasing a limited edition Postal Stamp in his honour in 1960 which is collectors item for a past philatelist like me .
Ramanujen died very young upon return from England.He was ravished by malnutrition (resulting in oppertunistic T.b.)because of his understandably strict vegeterian dietery adherence.In U.K. total inability of maintaining adequate nutritional need of any human.Given British diet taboo and absolutely brutal to non meat eater.
Unfortunately ,Ramanujen,didnt live long enough ,who knows may be for better to avoid being vegetative by crippling severe schizophrenia himself.
#7 Posted by Shatru Sinha on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
``Great wits are sure to madness near allied,
And thin partitions do their bounds divide``
Mohommed Gill
Is there any evidence that Ramanujen himself ,was ALSO schizophrenic?
I have read some bio graphy of Ramanujen,& Indian govt.Did honour by releasing a limited edition Postal Stamp in his honour in 1960 which is collectors item for a past philatelist like me .
Ramanujen died very young upon return from England.He was ravished by malnutrition (resulting in oppertunistic T.b.)because of his understandably strict vegeterian dietery adherence.In U.K. total inability of maintaining adequate nutritional need of any human.Given British diet taboo and absolutely brutal to non meat eater.
Unfortunately ,Ramanujen,didnt live long enough ,who knows may be for better to avoid being vegetative by crippling severe schizophrenia himself.
And thin partitions do their bounds divide``
Mohommed Gill
Is there any evidence that Ramanujen himself ,was ALSO schizophrenic?
I have read some bio graphy of Ramanujen,& Indian govt.Did honour by releasing a limited edition Postal Stamp in his honour in 1960 which is collectors item for a past philatelist like me .
Ramanujen died very young upon return from England.He was ravished by malnutrition (resulting in oppertunistic T.b.)because of his understandably strict vegeterian dietery adherence.In U.K. total inability of maintaining adequate nutritional need of any human.Given British diet taboo and absolutely brutal to non meat eater.
Unfortunately ,Ramanujen,didnt live long enough ,who knows may be for better to avoid being vegetative by crippling severe schizophrenia himself.
#8 Posted by hamzadafaqui on January 16, 2002 12:21:36 pm
Thank you Mr.Gill for bringing to our attention a subject which at least I would not have been able to come to know otherwise.
This is the kind of stuff we need more often on CHOWK.I have no use for the usual Indo-Pak sparring where predjudices are flaunted as scholarship & knowledge.
Being in the profession you mention you are in,could you enlighten us about Tesla?
If muslims spend half the time talking & doing science than reminding each other of their past accomplishments,I am sure an encore would be around the bend.
This is the kind of stuff we need more often on CHOWK.I have no use for the usual Indo-Pak sparring where predjudices are flaunted as scholarship & knowledge.
Being in the profession you mention you are in,could you enlighten us about Tesla?
If muslims spend half the time talking & doing science than reminding each other of their past accomplishments,I am sure an encore would be around the bend.
#9 Posted by rsridhar on January 16, 2002 2:37:52 pm
re:Reply #: 6
Shatru Sinha,
I read a biography on Ramanujam (note the spelling) and there is nothing to suggest that he was a schizophrenic. Why does he have to be one? He indeed suffered from Pulmonary T.B during his last year or so and was frantically trying to finish his work and hastily scribbling his findings on a notebook. This notebook was lost and subsequently found in a Madras Library (hence called the ``lost notebook``). This last year`s work is an area of research among mathematicians in US and Europe.
Sridhar
Shatru Sinha,
I read a biography on Ramanujam (note the spelling) and there is nothing to suggest that he was a schizophrenic. Why does he have to be one? He indeed suffered from Pulmonary T.B during his last year or so and was frantically trying to finish his work and hastily scribbling his findings on a notebook. This notebook was lost and subsequently found in a Madras Library (hence called the ``lost notebook``). This last year`s work is an area of research among mathematicians in US and Europe.
Sridhar
#10 Posted by Rdesikan on January 16, 2002 2:52:37 pm
Re Hamzad
``If muslims spend half the time talking & doing science than reminding each other of their past accomplishments,I am sure an encore would be around the bend.``
Funny you should bring this up. Hopefully you will soon try following your own advice and spare us of your various digital excretions about the various achievements of the islamic world.
It is a lot easier to ram an airplane into a building than it is to design and build one.
``If muslims spend half the time talking & doing science than reminding each other of their past accomplishments,I am sure an encore would be around the bend.``
Funny you should bring this up. Hopefully you will soon try following your own advice and spare us of your various digital excretions about the various achievements of the islamic world.
It is a lot easier to ram an airplane into a building than it is to design and build one.
#11 Posted by hamzadafaqui on January 16, 2002 4:38:44 pm
Rdesikan---10
Thanks for the ``guidance``,but you see there are a lot of non-muslims on this board.Nothing is done here without purpose.
There is an angle to everything!One needs to be multifaceted & well-heeled to appreciate the fine things in life.
Nothing funny here my man!---When I write humour others understand & always convey their appreciation.
Thanks for the ``guidance``,but you see there are a lot of non-muslims on this board.Nothing is done here without purpose.
There is an angle to everything!One needs to be multifaceted & well-heeled to appreciate the fine things in life.
Nothing funny here my man!---When I write humour others understand & always convey their appreciation.
#12 Posted by DRUMZ on January 16, 2002 9:24:05 pm
Hamzad: Do u think Islam will parrish without ur contributions? As u can see, I dislike everyones cut and pastes (if one cannot say it himself, it aint worth saying).
The tesla question was GOOD. Someone look into that and how biz/govts have interests in keeping technology limited. He could make energy so easily that they stopped him from doing it. Reminds me of goodyear which prevented efficient train tracks to be built all around the us (there`s a reason why things just stay the same) not good for tires. There was just a study describing why WEED is outlawed (more efficient then oil).
PS: Anyone know about schizo... Q: If he`s imagining things, the answers/ideas must be a result of what he already knows right? (Please dont mention the `S` word (subcon...)
The tesla question was GOOD. Someone look into that and how biz/govts have interests in keeping technology limited. He could make energy so easily that they stopped him from doing it. Reminds me of goodyear which prevented efficient train tracks to be built all around the us (there`s a reason why things just stay the same) not good for tires. There was just a study describing why WEED is outlawed (more efficient then oil).
PS: Anyone know about schizo... Q: If he`s imagining things, the answers/ideas must be a result of what he already knows right? (Please dont mention the `S` word (subcon...)
#13 Posted by anarayan on January 16, 2002 9:34:23 pm
GSCheema,
``Pakistan has Gills?``
Must be true. Last week CNN said Pakistan was upto its gills in debt!
regards,
``Pakistan has Gills?``
Must be true. Last week CNN said Pakistan was upto its gills in debt!
regards,
#14 Posted by anarayan on January 17, 2002 1:41:21 am
Gill Sahab,
IMHO, there is no DIRECT connection between genius and madness. There might be an INDIRECT connection though.
What is genius? Were Einstein and Russell geniuses? If so why were their personal lives so screwed up? So perhaps what we call genius is the ability to super-excel in one or two spheres only - not a wholistic kind of intelligence that is manifest in every area of one`s life.
This `narrow` genius comes naturally to people who can hold in their heads a single concept or idea for a very long time. This means that their brains naturally exclude all other thoughts easily. The key word being NATURALLY...not by FORCE or WILLPOWER.
Combine the above with a good sized ego and the normal thoughts everyone has about enemies...and you have a recipe for eventual disaster.
All the intelligent `kooks` I met so far had super-sized egos. Not one of them could be called humble by any means.
Err...the above is only my HUMBLE opinion!
regards,
IMHO, there is no DIRECT connection between genius and madness. There might be an INDIRECT connection though.
What is genius? Were Einstein and Russell geniuses? If so why were their personal lives so screwed up? So perhaps what we call genius is the ability to super-excel in one or two spheres only - not a wholistic kind of intelligence that is manifest in every area of one`s life.
This `narrow` genius comes naturally to people who can hold in their heads a single concept or idea for a very long time. This means that their brains naturally exclude all other thoughts easily. The key word being NATURALLY...not by FORCE or WILLPOWER.
Combine the above with a good sized ego and the normal thoughts everyone has about enemies...and you have a recipe for eventual disaster.
All the intelligent `kooks` I met so far had super-sized egos. Not one of them could be called humble by any means.
Err...the above is only my HUMBLE opinion!
regards,
#15 Posted by hamzadafaqui on January 17, 2002 1:41:21 am
DRUMZ---12.
No it would not,and that is not the effort & intent either.I value your input,incisive & forthright that it is,but I would request you to bear with me & scroll past.Soon it may not be needed.I do not like it myself.
Tesla has always fascinated me.The ``terrorism`` by Edison has truly not been reported(been done just enough to lay claim to ``objectivity``)and the Canadians are so awash in an inferiority complex that they are proud to have two masters to serve(Brits & Yanks)
No it would not,and that is not the effort & intent either.I value your input,incisive & forthright that it is,but I would request you to bear with me & scroll past.Soon it may not be needed.I do not like it myself.
Tesla has always fascinated me.The ``terrorism`` by Edison has truly not been reported(been done just enough to lay claim to ``objectivity``)and the Canadians are so awash in an inferiority complex that they are proud to have two masters to serve(Brits & Yanks)
#16 Posted by jay on January 17, 2002 10:18:29 am
GENIOUS IS MAD
The normative idea of sanity is derived from an average persons behaviour, essentially that of a mediocre person. Genious obviously has to deviate from the average to become genious, so is the mad.
The average banal person can notive only the deviation from the norm, he may call it mad, he may call it genious, what is the difference.
The important aspect is both , the mad and genious are non average, as such they may be termed mad or genious.
The normative idea of sanity is derived from an average persons behaviour, essentially that of a mediocre person. Genious obviously has to deviate from the average to become genious, so is the mad.
The average banal person can notive only the deviation from the norm, he may call it mad, he may call it genious, what is the difference.
The important aspect is both , the mad and genious are non average, as such they may be termed mad or genious.
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