Rehan Ansari February 11, 2002
#82 Posted by rsridhar on February 16, 2002 6:25:17 pm
re:Reply #: 10
Subroto,
Thanks for your informative post. Believe it or not, i have bookmarked it. Who knows when these things may be useful!
When i was in Bombay (many moons ago), trying to start (unsuccessfully)my own private practice as a doctor, i was shocked (coming from Delhi as i did)to hear the gross misuse of Hindi. It took me quite sometime to figure out, for eg, what the following meant: `` kahe ko khalee peelee lafda karta hain`` which literally means ``why are you unnecessarily creating trouble``. Bombaywallahs have done to Hindi what Bengalees have done to English (no offfense intended!).
Sridhar
Subroto,
Thanks for your informative post. Believe it or not, i have bookmarked it. Who knows when these things may be useful!
When i was in Bombay (many moons ago), trying to start (unsuccessfully)my own private practice as a doctor, i was shocked (coming from Delhi as i did)to hear the gross misuse of Hindi. It took me quite sometime to figure out, for eg, what the following meant: `` kahe ko khalee peelee lafda karta hain`` which literally means ``why are you unnecessarily creating trouble``. Bombaywallahs have done to Hindi what Bengalees have done to English (no offfense intended!).
Sridhar
#81 Posted by anNy on February 16, 2002 6:25:17 pm
vereesh
karachi valentines saw the performance of a play organized, directed, choreographed and acted by 18 to 21 year old boys and girls from a variety of institutions after which everbody danced to U2 and later one wonderful young man gave all us girls bright yellow sun flowers as we filed out of the auditirium
our sunflowers and men are better than yours
karachi valentines saw the performance of a play organized, directed, choreographed and acted by 18 to 21 year old boys and girls from a variety of institutions after which everbody danced to U2 and later one wonderful young man gave all us girls bright yellow sun flowers as we filed out of the auditirium
our sunflowers and men are better than yours
#80 Posted by Banjaara on February 16, 2002 6:25:17 pm
Romair # 49
``How exactly can you justify that you, and, ``many like you`` have reached this status of being, ``intellectually, morally and logically on a much higher ground`` in comparison to anyone else.``
Because HE says so..
``How exactly can you justify that you, and, ``many like you`` have reached this status of being, ``intellectually, morally and logically on a much higher ground`` in comparison to anyone else.``
Because HE says so..
#79 Posted by harimau on February 16, 2002 4:14:51 pm
Ref aakar patel #: 75
[no rose petals, we called the cops. couple of them still sitting outside today. saamna (the old man`s paper) still raving and ranting over `security breach` (we had a young girl deliver plastic hearts and flowers and valentine`s card) at his residence.]
No guts, I see. Tehelka.com would have delivered the girl, instead of or along with the roses.
I presume the thug still lives at Kala Nagar.
[no rose petals, we called the cops. couple of them still sitting outside today. saamna (the old man`s paper) still raving and ranting over `security breach` (we had a young girl deliver plastic hearts and flowers and valentine`s card) at his residence.]
No guts, I see. Tehelka.com would have delivered the girl, instead of or along with the roses.
I presume the thug still lives at Kala Nagar.
#78 Posted by harimau on February 16, 2002 4:14:51 pm
Ref ylh #: 72
[That last post was not for this board.]
That applies to all of your posts and any of the boards in any combination whatsoever.
[That last post was not for this board.]
That applies to all of your posts and any of the boards in any combination whatsoever.
#77 Posted by aakar on February 16, 2002 4:14:51 pm
zafar al-talib
re `aap kaun hai?`
friend of rehan`s, ocassional chowk contributor and bandra resident.
jai hind jai maharashtra
aakar
actually jai bandra. don`t care so much about the rest of maharashtra.
re `aap kaun hai?`
friend of rehan`s, ocassional chowk contributor and bandra resident.
jai hind jai maharashtra
aakar
actually jai bandra. don`t care so much about the rest of maharashtra.
#76 Posted by veeresh on February 16, 2002 4:14:51 pm
Yes, and how did they celebrate Valentine`s Day in Karachi, then? Did they have traffic jams? Did they enforce the seat-belt law? Most of all, did they do anything about driving around without tail-lamps?
I tell you . . . this is most distressing.
Even our traffic jams are better than yours.
(For those of you from Delhi, it took me three hours to drive from Rohini to DefCol. Last night. After midnight. Two hours to clear the stretch from Zakhira to Dhaula Kuan.)
#75 Posted by ZafarA on February 16, 2002 3:07:56 am
Reply rehanhasanansari # 68, Aakar
``zafar, aakar ka makaan dekho gay to drool karo gay...``
I drool enough as it is, but thank you for your kind thoughts.
Article wasn`t bad either, but let me add my voice to Lajwanti`s in this matter - love interest honi chahiye, pictures (pref colour), and glossary ki tho sakhth zaroorath hai. Please keep us, your audience, in mind. Yeh mensa vensa jaisi koi faltu jagah nahin hai.
Aakar - I was busy condescending to RSax - aap kaun hain?
``zafar, aakar ka makaan dekho gay to drool karo gay...``
I drool enough as it is, but thank you for your kind thoughts.
Article wasn`t bad either, but let me add my voice to Lajwanti`s in this matter - love interest honi chahiye, pictures (pref colour), and glossary ki tho sakhth zaroorath hai. Please keep us, your audience, in mind. Yeh mensa vensa jaisi koi faltu jagah nahin hai.
Aakar - I was busy condescending to RSax - aap kaun hain?
#74 Posted by aakar on February 16, 2002 3:07:56 am
rehan #68
no rose petals, we called the cops. couple of them still sitting outside today. saamna (the old man`s paper) still raving and ranting over `security breach` (we had a young girl deliver plastic hearts and flowers and valentine`s card) at his residence.
anyway, write on.
aakar
no rose petals, we called the cops. couple of them still sitting outside today. saamna (the old man`s paper) still raving and ranting over `security breach` (we had a young girl deliver plastic hearts and flowers and valentine`s card) at his residence.
anyway, write on.
aakar
#73 Posted by ylh on February 16, 2002 3:07:56 am
Musharraf`s Visit to the US, Key addresses.
http://www.c-span.org/search/index.asp?
http://www.c-span.org/search/index.asp?
#72 Posted by sigalph235 on February 16, 2002 3:07:56 am
re aisha 56
Thanks for the kind words. I believe in your and Yasser`s vision of Pakistan because frankly there is no future of Pakistan without that vision. Intemperate both of you can be(and I have mentioned it a few times before) but irresponsible you are certainly not. Don`t worry about what detractors say; the Quaid-e-Azam was called similar things and worse. I`m sure you recall the old Urdu couplet that went something like
Rang laati hai hena patthar pe pis jaane ke bad.
Thanks for the kind words. I believe in your and Yasser`s vision of Pakistan because frankly there is no future of Pakistan without that vision. Intemperate both of you can be(and I have mentioned it a few times before) but irresponsible you are certainly not. Don`t worry about what detractors say; the Quaid-e-Azam was called similar things and worse. I`m sure you recall the old Urdu couplet that went something like
Rang laati hai hena patthar pe pis jaane ke bad.
#70 Posted by rehanhasanansar on February 15, 2002 4:46:22 pm
On the recent crisis, the Pakistani people won two victories, killed two birds with one stone. Here is how:
a. Victory over Islamist thugs: Islamist rogues no longer sent to Kashmir. Therefore, same rogues no longer important to military government within Pakistan. Predicted Result: Stock of Islamist rogues within Pakistan goes down (admittedly, result remains to be seen).
b. Victory over Hindutva thugs: Hindutva thugs still living in dream world after 1971. Prime Minister publicly declares time has come for ``decisive war`` with Pakistan. Chowk Indians start talking about marching into Pakistan (as happened in Junagadh, Goa, Hyderabad). ``Great Power`` India masses one million man army on borders. Sends warships over. Hindutva thugs dancing in streets. But...Musharaff releases three missiles, one after another. Declares willingness to use nukes if needed. Hindutva thugs fall silent. Change propoganda line to start talking about ``international pressures`` forcing Pakistan to call off the Islamist thugs.
Final result: Pakistan saved from both Islamist thugs and Hindutva thugs and nationalist thugs in India.
Now tell me someone that God is not in heaven, watching out for Pakistanis. You may proceed to heap insults on me now. Wont change reality.
a. Victory over Islamist thugs: Islamist rogues no longer sent to Kashmir. Therefore, same rogues no longer important to military government within Pakistan. Predicted Result: Stock of Islamist rogues within Pakistan goes down (admittedly, result remains to be seen).
b. Victory over Hindutva thugs: Hindutva thugs still living in dream world after 1971. Prime Minister publicly declares time has come for ``decisive war`` with Pakistan. Chowk Indians start talking about marching into Pakistan (as happened in Junagadh, Goa, Hyderabad). ``Great Power`` India masses one million man army on borders. Sends warships over. Hindutva thugs dancing in streets. But...Musharaff releases three missiles, one after another. Declares willingness to use nukes if needed. Hindutva thugs fall silent. Change propoganda line to start talking about ``international pressures`` forcing Pakistan to call off the Islamist thugs.
Final result: Pakistan saved from both Islamist thugs and Hindutva thugs and nationalist thugs in India.
Now tell me someone that God is not in heaven, watching out for Pakistanis. You may proceed to heap insults on me now. Wont change reality.
#69 Posted by saminashah on February 15, 2002 4:46:22 pm
Rehan,
This is really good, evocative writing. Sorry I came to it later than usual.
Is this part of a larger work or a short essay piece?
regards
This is really good, evocative writing. Sorry I came to it later than usual.
Is this part of a larger work or a short essay piece?
regards
#68 Posted by Prem on February 15, 2002 4:46:22 pm
re: Ansari # 44
AAmir,
I am rediscovering the finer things in life...and Caron Ann Duffy is one of the brightest jewels I have found.
She was a lucky find. A friend suggested I look at her ``Mean Time.`` I borrowed the book from a local library, only to decide within a few minutes that a book like that ought to be purchased, not borrowed. Even though the volume has been out of print, I was fortunate to obtain a used copy for myself.
AAmir,
I am rediscovering the finer things in life...and Caron Ann Duffy is one of the brightest jewels I have found.
She was a lucky find. A friend suggested I look at her ``Mean Time.`` I borrowed the book from a local library, only to decide within a few minutes that a book like that ought to be purchased, not borrowed. Even though the volume has been out of print, I was fortunate to obtain a used copy for myself.
#67 Posted by ylh on February 15, 2002 4:46:22 pm
Shammi,
Are you familiar with Iqbal`s writings on `Khudi` or the philosophy of Ego?
Slink,
Thanks for your kind post and wishes.
About Sheema Kirmani:
1) At Yale the topic of discussion was `Peace between Pakistan and India` presented by International Conflict resolution group and not dance in Pakistan so her diatribe against the so called `Laws` in Pakistan was irrelevant. She became the laughing stock of the Yale`s student body. I didn`t need to insult her, eventhough when I spoke, her answers to my queries were very embarrassing for her. Instead of answering my questions like a mature educated person, she tried to take shots at me by first asking me the name of my high school in Pakistan and then declaring that she hadn`t heard of it. At the dinner afterwards Sunil the president of Indian Students association there came up to me and apologized for Sheema Kirmani`s behavior. Imagine that, an Indian apologizing for the behavior of my fellow Pakistani.
2)She was not talking about Zia times, she claimed it was going on today. Had she said Zia times and blamed it on Zia, I would have been her biggest supporter but she went on a tirade against Pakistan. To me Nation comes first, so I will expose anyone who lies about Pakistan to gain mileage for their social agenda, no matter how noble that agenda may or may not be.
3) Her lie about the `exile` of Naheed Siddiqui was hilarious.
Whatever she might have done for Pakistan and women`s rights in Pakistan comes to naught when one takes into account the deliberate hate mongering she indulged in that day. People like her should understand that not everyone can reach the stature of Asma Jehangir or Hina Jelani though they are not without faults either.
Are you familiar with Iqbal`s writings on `Khudi` or the philosophy of Ego?
Slink,
Thanks for your kind post and wishes.
About Sheema Kirmani:
1) At Yale the topic of discussion was `Peace between Pakistan and India` presented by International Conflict resolution group and not dance in Pakistan so her diatribe against the so called `Laws` in Pakistan was irrelevant. She became the laughing stock of the Yale`s student body. I didn`t need to insult her, eventhough when I spoke, her answers to my queries were very embarrassing for her. Instead of answering my questions like a mature educated person, she tried to take shots at me by first asking me the name of my high school in Pakistan and then declaring that she hadn`t heard of it. At the dinner afterwards Sunil the president of Indian Students association there came up to me and apologized for Sheema Kirmani`s behavior. Imagine that, an Indian apologizing for the behavior of my fellow Pakistani.
2)She was not talking about Zia times, she claimed it was going on today. Had she said Zia times and blamed it on Zia, I would have been her biggest supporter but she went on a tirade against Pakistan. To me Nation comes first, so I will expose anyone who lies about Pakistan to gain mileage for their social agenda, no matter how noble that agenda may or may not be.
3) Her lie about the `exile` of Naheed Siddiqui was hilarious.
Whatever she might have done for Pakistan and women`s rights in Pakistan comes to naught when one takes into account the deliberate hate mongering she indulged in that day. People like her should understand that not everyone can reach the stature of Asma Jehangir or Hina Jelani though they are not without faults either.
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