Lessons From the Pearl Murder

Re: ana, #134

``Goray Rang ka zamana kabhi ho ga na purana.....``

That`s so clever! A desi brick right on the head!!! I agree with you whole heaterdly; and I bet so does the silent desi majority.

PS: I love the song, though; without the irony, that is.

hobbyty #141, sadna #143

No reasonable person could disagree with the general framework of Pankaj`s comments. There is a genuine danger of majoritarian tyranny here. We have some money and power-hungry ``gurus`` and priests conspiring with the BJP to help get them some votes.

The Mahant of Ayodhya is a scum-filled lard ball and the sooner he is put into prison or at least given a good beating, the happier I am going to be. As for Ashok Singhal, I wish I was standing next to the man so that I could spit on him. The BJP has pandered to the VHP and to nazi`s like Bal Thakre and this has had a really bad impact on Indian democracy.

But there is good news: the BJP has been badly beaten in the elections. Cunning people may conspire with fascists to come to power but the indian commitment to democracy will ultimately end their self-defeating behavior. The news that 10%+ of the UP assembly is muslim is also excellent news.

Three cheers for Indian democracy!

Reaction response# 89. Mr. Hamidum ( Hamid Muhammad?) thank you very very much. I did not like your attityde mind to make fun of BA fails or non bas ok.

This old style Aparthed Chhap pakistan style.

I am nonBA. I did not like General sahib to decide I am not good enough for him. It should be decided by PPL of PK.This most bad type of descrimination. About 45% are literate ok. may be 20% are BA or more of them. This basically DISCRIMNATION against NONGRADUATE in country.THIS AGINST SPIRIT of democracy. The worst part is PPL like you exPk donot even say this is wrong.

I am real unhappy ok that expak feels over 75% of PPL have no ability.

I an sad first general nuters( cuts) spirit of DEmo. by banning BB,NS,Altaf-MQM chief).

Then he disqualifies 75%.

Then packs with Tech. people and women (why let them fight win- that is democracy)

Then he says openly BB ns or MQM supremo will not be allowed , what is this.

I am shocked NO expak said any thing any time about this. Ayubkhan gave basic democracy was far superior may not be perfect but better than farce.

I hope some EX paks can put money so they can put challenge to this total non democracy in supreme court. I know the Supreme court is rubber stamp. But ask expak to Bush to tell Mush to start playing with fire. Let me again say its not democracy it like Sharabi telling people be sober. Let me say again nothing will happen. Only way out is to have UN sponsored colonism for next 10 years. Ask white good british retired Civil officers to control country.I was born just after Englishman left. Browm Sahib is worst enemies of brown people.I am tired of third worldly. Also ppl will listen to them as they can whip and improve ok. I am just tired of . We need to stop tution classes. I pay lot more than gas and Elctrsity. I see my daughters notes tutions, these BA, MAs etc are just minting money. They do not teach just cramming. All Lafangebazi. Just tirade. Good bye expaks.

Pmishra,

Please acknowledge that you are a liar of the first degree, given your creed ofcourse, ... to confirm that please visit my post 432 and others on Farzana Versey`s thackerey article which have been a clear response to your lies about me, and which you have failed to acknowledge in right royal Indian style of liars. n case you don`t know what I am talking about, this is in reference to your weekly assertion that I didn`t reply to your `Bipan Chandra` assertion which was the worst twisting of words I have ever seen...

Others,

The Daniel Pearl tragedy was one of collossal proportions, and the clear losers were Marianne Pearl, Pakistan, and the Pakistani People. I think it goes without saying what my feelings are on that issue.

I shall air my opinion on the shameless Indian glee however which enough Indians have exhibited on the tragic and gruesome death of Danny Pearl. It goes to show that like the fundoos, Indians too have no humanity left in them. Infact my suspicion that Fundoos and Indians, two deadly enemies would gladly let go of their mutual differences to embarrass us the true Pakistani Patriots ... and go to any lengths to do so.

We shall erect a memorial in the sacred memory of the Martyred Danny Pearl, a Jew, an American and the a true martyr of the Pakistani Nation. That memorial will remind us of our resolve to become the tolerant progressive state as envisaged by our founder and to overcome and crush all Islamic fundamentalism, frustrating the designs against the Pakistani Nation, of the Indian Cowards at the same time.

Long Live Humanity (no this does not include Indians especially after the shameless display by shameless Bigots like Mahesh G and others who are overjoyed at the gruesome death of Danny Pearl. Indeed Indian are one People! You all think alike.)

Reply Tahmed # 107

“scout #94 you quote veeresh #46 when he writes ``Maybe it is our fault that we are not white?``…What veeresh really meant was ``Maybe it is our fault that we are not right?`` (the ``right`` bacame ``white`` for the same reason that Elmer Fudd talks…”

Thank God I read your post. For some reason I thought it said it was my fault that I was not “bright”, aur main javaab dene thaiyaar thha…thank you so much for saving me from embarrassment.

re hariharan 137

``Frankly, justice is better served if Omar and the Saeed(JeM) types are sent to US to face charges. It is easier on Musharraf and ABV.``

Oh no! These people need to face the sweet Shariah justice they have been propagating so long. In the US, they`ll be assumed innocent, given high-priced media hungry lawyers, paraded as underdogs, and end up getting 15 years or so. They deserve the Islamic justice they so proclaim when in the driver`s seat. Let the chicken come home to roost.

I never quite understood the humanitarianism of the US in rescuing the dregs who`re at Guantanamo Bay right now: sobs should`ve been turned over to the NA immediately so that all this hullaboo about Geneva Conventions, prison conditions, and Bill of Rights would never have arisen. THey would have gotten their native, Islamic Sharia treatment for what they did to Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Afghans at large. SAme for the filthy Pakistani and Arab mercenaries. To give them even semi Constitutional protection is strange, when they canbe handed over to their own folk. LEt these sobs be turned over cold to the tender mercies of the late Ahmad Shah Masoud`s JAmat-e-Islaami. Then we will see how much Sharia is in these Islam-loving, US-bashing, neo-Muslims who preach their version of hadith perched in the comforts of the UK and USA.

scout #139 you write ``Veeresh ji, are you going to sit back and take that ``. You know that Veeresh has promised to show me the hot spots of Delhi next time I am there, and your post is part of a plot to wreck my chances. I know who you are Scout, or should I say Lt. Colonel Scout of the Covert Operations Section of ISI!! Ha! Ha!

From the Time article on Musharaff (and specially cut and pasted to cause Jay to have kittens): ``The world is counting on Musharraf to help steer South and Central Asia from local chaos to regional security, from the brink of Armageddon to Pax Pakistana, and from fundamentalist fervor to secular moderation. ``

If this helps soothe outraged feelings, I may add that regardless of what the world is counting on Musharaff to do, Pakistanis are counting on him to ``merely`` to get Pakistan out of the mess that Paki generals have made by sleeping in the same bed as the mullahs (metaphorically speaking, although it could be literally true for rogue generals like Hamid Gul).

Hobbyty #132 you write ``Infiltration by organizations bent on creating terror and conditions for terror and by Indian security services AND certain acts of reorganization in Pakistan. `` But how do you know that? That is the question I had for you in my last post. If there was proof in Pearl`s case of Indian involvement, rest assured that it would have been presented to the world press by Pakistan. If Qazi Husain had any basis to make accusations, he would have presented the evidence along with his accusations. Please be just. That is the true Islamic way. Not conspiracy theories and wild accusations without any basis and against all logic.

The ignoble defeat of -- the ``mask`` -- of that HATE PEDDLER Parivar -- called the BJP -- in three states -- fairly and squarely -- fills my old heart with immense joy and a great sense of satisfaction.

Democracy and secularism are --ALIVE, WELL and ``KICKING`` (and what a kicking!) -- in merey ``bekuss watan gareeb watan benawa watan``.

The Hindu version of the Taliban -- has finally met its -- ELECTORAL DAISY CUTTERS -- in beautiful India -- thank goodness.

hasan

Two Pieces of news from The Jang Group:


Marianne Pearl thanks Pakistani people
(Updated at 1730 PST)

KARACHI: Window of the slain American journalist Denial Pearl says she has one day to tell the child that the people who killed his father did not achieved their goals.

In an interview with CNN in a relax mood Marianne Pearl has said that her ideals have not been compromised by what was happened. She said that she has thanked the Pakistani people for their support and also thanked the investigators for their investigation work and she also said however the death of Denial Pearl is a wakeup call to allow government to take action.

She claimed that kidnappers killed Deny but I know his faith his mission and his conviction have not been defeated, and one day his son will know that his father was a hero.

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4 dead at mosque shooting in Rawalpindi
(Updated at 1930 PST)

ISLAMABAD: Gunmen sprayed gunfire Tuesday in a mosque in Rawalpindi, killing at least four and injuring seven, said a report citing police sources.


(This is religion? Need one say more here?)

Ras

...BJP`s graceful acceptance of their defeat in elections reaffirms, yet again, that democracy in india is alive and well...vote for whom you may, but accept the results of the election...remarkable considering what happens in india`s neighbors...

ylh #157

I am sorry I have no interest in responding to your gorilla-like chest thumping and self promotion. Your posts speak for themselves, as well as your incessant need to call others ``liars``. Your post on ``proving`` that Nehru was a genocidal war criminal was most impressive in illuminating the recesses of your troubled mind.

Don`t forget to take your medication today.

scout #140,

I understand what you`re saying... that whatever may be going wrong with Pakistan we can`t give up on it or turn against it. Its my home and there are many more things that I love about it, than I dislike and want to change. Also, the government has taken some 180 degree turns and that they need time to fully implement them and ensure that everyone in the administration and govt. agencies are on the same page. With that said we should also question everything thats going on. For the longest time we have been caught unaware or are in disagreement with government policies (at least I have), and its been kept secret because it`s for a sacred cow (Kashmir).

Call me naive, but I really don`t care how bad the west is or how bad India is... what matters to me is Pakistan. The fact that our government supported criminals who conducted random acts of violence really gets me. I mean thats what the Army is for - really. Giving authority and power to criminals off the street to do what they please was just plain stupid.... but like HamidM I`ll admit that maybe it was a good idea at first because it would be limited in scope and target Indian military, as opposed to civilians. Anyway, this is now accepted as a failed strategy, that actually screwed Pakistan more than India IMO. Karma anyone ?

To make a long story short, YES we should support Pakistan, but we should also question the government and ensure what they say is being done is really being done and that not all of us toe the line like sheep. Transparency, perestroika, openness will be empowering for us.

Protecting Pakistan on chowk is not for me... there are all shades of idiots (myself included) and I`ll go crazy trying to counter each one. I`m just hear to listen and give my true opinion.

BTW, saw Monsoon wedding last night... really enjoyed it.

Re Hariharan/sigalph

The flip side to extraditing shaikh is that the chap may spill the beans that can prove embarassing to the ISI, and it makes sense for the Pakistanis to keep him. But Musharraf is in quite a corner. It is also very possible that shaikh can be bumped off a la Lee Harvey Oswald by an ISI Ruby and we will have another conspiracy for the ages.

Got to agree with Sigalph in palming off the scum to the NA. In addition to being kosher from an islamic perspective [couldn`t resist that usage here], it is extremely cost-effective. It probably costs thousands to house a fanatic and why throw good money on bad stuff?

BTW, did you see the op ed in today`s print ed of the WSJ where a case is made to ditch the NA? hmmm.

Marianne Pearl sounds like a really strong woman.

From BBC

Pearl widow backs hunt for killers



Mariane Pearl is expecting the couple`s first baby

Just days after the release of a video showing the execution of US journalist Daniel Pearl, his widow has called on the Pakistani people and police to find her husband`s killers.

In a BBC interview, Mariane Pearl praised the Pakistani police and said they had ``done an amazing job with the limited resources they have``.

``The amount of courage and individual commitment and support they have shown me has been amazing. That has really made a big difference for me,`` she said.

Mrs Pearl said ``I really want to say to the people of Pakistan and to the law enforcement agencies to go and find the people who killed Danny.``

Daniel Pearl was kidnapped in Karachi on the 23 of January - from that moment, his wife said, she had felt the support of the Pakistani police.

`Never defeated`

``Throughout this whole four weeks I really felt that everybody was with me so much, trusting me, just walking together to one same goal.``

``The best support I had was seeing them work so hard,`` she said.

Mrs Pearl said that in spite of what her husband must have suffered at the hands of the kidnappers, she was sure he had never been defeated.

Mrs Pearl - who is expecting the couple`s first baby - said she would stay in Pakistan for a time to attend different memorial services for Daniel Pearl.

``I want to celebrate him as a human being and also his courage.``