Parag Vohra March 1, 2002
#42 Posted by sac on March 4, 2002 3:39:45 pm
Stuka:
Good article. Student politics in India seems to have the same mindlessness to it as Pakistan. Maybe a lack of more interesting available activities makes otherwise intelligent young men go nuts.
And contrary to popular belief(Sameer Sahib can attest to the fact), Jamaatis in Pakistan are well organized to the tee in student politics. Islamic fundamentalism has no correlation with ones academic exploits. The incredible number of Ivy-educated Richard Reid wannabees running around justifying acts of pure evil attests to the fact. The genius of obfuscation in residence hobbyty(who takes over the honour from Field Marshal(Hon) ROmair) is more than welcome to write a 6000 word treatise to prove otherwise.
later
-sac
Good article. Student politics in India seems to have the same mindlessness to it as Pakistan. Maybe a lack of more interesting available activities makes otherwise intelligent young men go nuts.
And contrary to popular belief(Sameer Sahib can attest to the fact), Jamaatis in Pakistan are well organized to the tee in student politics. Islamic fundamentalism has no correlation with ones academic exploits. The incredible number of Ivy-educated Richard Reid wannabees running around justifying acts of pure evil attests to the fact. The genius of obfuscation in residence hobbyty(who takes over the honour from Field Marshal(Hon) ROmair) is more than welcome to write a 6000 word treatise to prove otherwise.
later
-sac
#41 Posted by ylh on March 4, 2002 3:39:45 pm
Veeresh,
Well the day we the Pakistani Nationalists are convinced that Chowk`s Pakistani character has been completely submerged, we shall leave this site. Then all you Indians, and South Asianists from our side can indulge in as many dialogues as possible. Ofcourse without us, none of those efforts can be fruitful.
Thankyou
Sincerely
Yasser Latif Hamdani
#40 Posted by stuka on March 4, 2002 3:39:45 pm
RSaxena:
``no, some nerdy girls study liberal arts to become social rebels...and they are def not hotties...``
They don`t go to Delhi University though. Those girls go to Leftist Bastions such as Jawaharlal Nehru Univ, where elections issues are as vague as Support for Sandinistas in Nicaragua etc etc.
Semipreciousme:
Why would you not find it surprising that Sameer was a Jamaati?
BTW, the fruit (bananas) were for us. They are the cheapest fruit, and the guys collecting money for us wanted to save as much as possible for their own Chinese food and Kingfisher Beer.
Dost Mittar: You were at DSE? Man, way too highbrow. Did you also attend lectures at the India International Centre?? :)
AnNy:
Yes, student politics are bad, no doubt about it. The worst are UP student politics. Babloo Srivastava, an international criminal with links in drugs, extortion, murder, got his start I believe as president of Allahabad Univ.
Somehow, I suspect Prem might know a lot about Student Politics...Kyon Prem, kabhi Lexington, Mass ka chakkar phir nahi laga kya?
Roohi:
``Even Khalsa (that sunk our college festival The Tempest) or Kirodi Mall College didn`t take you - good god how badly did you do in your 12th exams?!! ``
Arrey, Kirodi Mall had become respectable by the late 80s with cutoffs rivalling Hansraj, and a shade below Hindu. How badly did I do??? Blush!!! :) Not brave enough to reveal that!!
``no, some nerdy girls study liberal arts to become social rebels...and they are def not hotties...``
They don`t go to Delhi University though. Those girls go to Leftist Bastions such as Jawaharlal Nehru Univ, where elections issues are as vague as Support for Sandinistas in Nicaragua etc etc.
Semipreciousme:
Why would you not find it surprising that Sameer was a Jamaati?
BTW, the fruit (bananas) were for us. They are the cheapest fruit, and the guys collecting money for us wanted to save as much as possible for their own Chinese food and Kingfisher Beer.
Dost Mittar: You were at DSE? Man, way too highbrow. Did you also attend lectures at the India International Centre?? :)
AnNy:
Yes, student politics are bad, no doubt about it. The worst are UP student politics. Babloo Srivastava, an international criminal with links in drugs, extortion, murder, got his start I believe as president of Allahabad Univ.
Somehow, I suspect Prem might know a lot about Student Politics...Kyon Prem, kabhi Lexington, Mass ka chakkar phir nahi laga kya?
Roohi:
``Even Khalsa (that sunk our college festival The Tempest) or Kirodi Mall College didn`t take you - good god how badly did you do in your 12th exams?!! ``
Arrey, Kirodi Mall had become respectable by the late 80s with cutoffs rivalling Hansraj, and a shade below Hindu. How badly did I do??? Blush!!! :) Not brave enough to reveal that!!
#39 Posted by rsaxena on March 4, 2002 12:07:38 pm
re: harimau
{{You have to ask?
Man, I am losing my faith in you.
Definitely not nerdy. Nerdy girls study engineering.}}
no, some nerdy girls study liberal arts to become social rebels...and they are def not hotties...some are mean as hell, and they look it...there were even a few desi ones in my college...
{{ That is why most all the hotties on Chowk are Pakistanis. }}
..how do you know?...for all we know they have hairy moles and missing teeth...
{{You have to ask?
Man, I am losing my faith in you.
Definitely not nerdy. Nerdy girls study engineering.}}
no, some nerdy girls study liberal arts to become social rebels...and they are def not hotties...some are mean as hell, and they look it...there were even a few desi ones in my college...
{{ That is why most all the hotties on Chowk are Pakistanis. }}
..how do you know?...for all we know they have hairy moles and missing teeth...
#38 Posted by semipreciousme on March 4, 2002 4:16:06 am
anNy:
``sameersaab:
you were a JAMAATI? *faints *``
...actually, it`s not that surprising....
``sameersaab:
you were a JAMAATI? *faints *``
...actually, it`s not that surprising....
#37 Posted by subroto on March 4, 2002 1:04:33 am
Ah yes the good old Mandal days, remember coming home from work on my bike being stopped by by a couple of goons who asked me not to take a particular route. The alternative as he very politely said ``nahi to aapki bike jala denge`` but fortunately I was able to reach home safely. As DostMitter points out it was rather sad that ``Weepy`` Singh had to resort to the mandalisation of politics in order to keep his seat intact. In fact ``Weepy`` Singh was a frequent visitor to our colony, so some of my friends made an anti VP Singh poster and put it up on the wall but it got removed before he could see it.
-Subroto
-Subroto
#36 Posted by Prem on March 4, 2002 1:04:33 am
sameerjb, stuka,
Whatever be your past, I am glad both of you have been ``saved`` from your respective religions.
Hell would have been a terrible place for either of you. I am sure stuka would have bribed his way out, but sameerjb? :)
There is this very very interesting phenomenon of INVERSION. People exposed to a great deal of religious bigotry early in their lives often cross over and turn into human beings. On the other hand, kids with ``liberal`` parents or those ``westernized`` early, often end up as religious killers and mobsters.
Some of that makes logical sense. Still, folks, anybody else noticed, or better, studied this phenomenon?
Religiously unreligious and unreligiously religious, or
a proud non-Hindu Hindu or a proud non-Muslim or proud non-everything.
Prem
Whatever be your past, I am glad both of you have been ``saved`` from your respective religions.
Hell would have been a terrible place for either of you. I am sure stuka would have bribed his way out, but sameerjb? :)
There is this very very interesting phenomenon of INVERSION. People exposed to a great deal of religious bigotry early in their lives often cross over and turn into human beings. On the other hand, kids with ``liberal`` parents or those ``westernized`` early, often end up as religious killers and mobsters.
Some of that makes logical sense. Still, folks, anybody else noticed, or better, studied this phenomenon?
Religiously unreligious and unreligiously religious, or
a proud non-Hindu Hindu or a proud non-Muslim or proud non-everything.
Prem
#34 Posted by stuka on March 3, 2002 4:43:31 pm
SameerJB
`` was a Jamaatia, drinking Murree Brewary`s beer occasionally with other Islamists in Islamabad with never forgetting to say bismillah before taking the first big gulp.``
What a co-incidence. During the Ayodhya agitation we would put up posters of ``Mandir Wahin Banayenge`` and then go to Nizammuddin area for Beef Tikkas. It`s kind of wierd to imagine you as a Jamaatiya though. Maybe as wierd as my own past as a true believer.
Sadna:
Originally, my plan was to follow up with an article on the Rath Yatra. The problem is that my style of writing is lighthearted, and with what is currently happening in India, I don`t think that will be suitable. But I will definitely try.
I have a cousin called Rachna, but no sister called Archana :)
`` was a Jamaatia, drinking Murree Brewary`s beer occasionally with other Islamists in Islamabad with never forgetting to say bismillah before taking the first big gulp.``
What a co-incidence. During the Ayodhya agitation we would put up posters of ``Mandir Wahin Banayenge`` and then go to Nizammuddin area for Beef Tikkas. It`s kind of wierd to imagine you as a Jamaatiya though. Maybe as wierd as my own past as a true believer.
Sadna:
Originally, my plan was to follow up with an article on the Rath Yatra. The problem is that my style of writing is lighthearted, and with what is currently happening in India, I don`t think that will be suitable. But I will definitely try.
I have a cousin called Rachna, but no sister called Archana :)
#33 Posted by anNy on March 3, 2002 4:43:31 pm
stuka
my first post didnt make it..you write well..what i have seen tells me that student politics is the lowest form of politics..only the losers, ugly, weak and stupid indulge
why not write something about your hotel/restaurant education/ experiences?..it should be fun to read
sameersaab:
you were a JAMAATI? *faints *
my first post didnt make it..you write well..what i have seen tells me that student politics is the lowest form of politics..only the losers, ugly, weak and stupid indulge
why not write something about your hotel/restaurant education/ experiences?..it should be fun to read
sameersaab:
you were a JAMAATI? *faints *
#32 Posted by roohi on March 3, 2002 4:43:31 pm
Parag,
Great to read about DU - what memories the whole DU admission process brings up ! I ended up doing Math Hons in Miranda after applying far too late to get anything else inspite of my decent board results - all because I was so sure I was getting into NID, Ahemdabad I didn`t even bother to apply anywhere in DU. Everything is politics ... I think now that it was my enthusiatic gushing about Atlas Shrugged to the arty leftest libral teachers in my 3 day interview that sunk my chances for NID - that of some ``pull`` or ``ghoose`` walla bacha got in instead of me.
At Miranda since it is a girls college the girls (even in English Hons !!) did vote and the elections were a zoo ! Are all North Campus colleges considered good ??? Even Khalsa (that sunk our college festival The Tempest) or Kirodi Mall College didn`t take you - good god how badly did you do in your 12th exams?!! I still remember when when SRCC`s college festival was sponsered by Zakki underwear and they had a huge banner of a Brief draped over the back of the stage for the rock concert !!!
Anyway - thanks for a fun read from a fellow boston area DU-ite
Great to read about DU - what memories the whole DU admission process brings up ! I ended up doing Math Hons in Miranda after applying far too late to get anything else inspite of my decent board results - all because I was so sure I was getting into NID, Ahemdabad I didn`t even bother to apply anywhere in DU. Everything is politics ... I think now that it was my enthusiatic gushing about Atlas Shrugged to the arty leftest libral teachers in my 3 day interview that sunk my chances for NID - that of some ``pull`` or ``ghoose`` walla bacha got in instead of me.
At Miranda since it is a girls college the girls (even in English Hons !!) did vote and the elections were a zoo ! Are all North Campus colleges considered good ??? Even Khalsa (that sunk our college festival The Tempest) or Kirodi Mall College didn`t take you - good god how badly did you do in your 12th exams?!! I still remember when when SRCC`s college festival was sponsered by Zakki underwear and they had a huge banner of a Brief draped over the back of the stage for the rock concert !!!
Anyway - thanks for a fun read from a fellow boston area DU-ite
#31 Posted by sadna on March 3, 2002 2:37:43 pm
Stuka #21
Do write about the Rath Yatra as well. In the South Mandal-like reservations had been in place for decades and mandir was not a major issue for a long time.
btw, do you happen to have a sister named Archana, perhaps?
Do write about the Rath Yatra as well. In the South Mandal-like reservations had been in place for decades and mandir was not a major issue for a long time.
btw, do you happen to have a sister named Archana, perhaps?
#30 Posted by harimau on March 3, 2002 1:10:58 pm
Ref RSaxena #: 7
[{{Get me admission into the BA (Hons) English program, which is predominantly girl dominated}}
nice..hotties or nerdy girls?]
You have to ask?
Man, I am losing my faith in you.
Definitely not nerdy. Nerdy girls study engineering.
That is why most all the hotties on Chowk are Pakistanis.
[{{Get me admission into the BA (Hons) English program, which is predominantly girl dominated}}
nice..hotties or nerdy girls?]
You have to ask?
Man, I am losing my faith in you.
Definitely not nerdy. Nerdy girls study engineering.
That is why most all the hotties on Chowk are Pakistanis.
#29 Posted by saminashah on March 3, 2002 1:10:58 pm
Temporal,
re: ``[…Did I write Stuka for Mr. Vohra`s article? Sorry, must be a mistake…]
---wipe that pie off your face;)``
Hey, a woman can only try to save a man`s honor...
and if it must be pie, make it Stewart`s banana or coconut cream from Chicago. The pie was so good there, I haven`t even bothered eating it elsewhere...
re: ``[…Did I write Stuka for Mr. Vohra`s article? Sorry, must be a mistake…]
---wipe that pie off your face;)``
Hey, a woman can only try to save a man`s honor...
and if it must be pie, make it Stewart`s banana or coconut cream from Chicago. The pie was so good there, I haven`t even bothered eating it elsewhere...
#28 Posted by scout on March 2, 2002 10:39:24 pm
my two cents,
though it was a bit hard to read, the article was interesting and dealt with things new to Chowk.
hope you write more.
though it was a bit hard to read, the article was interesting and dealt with things new to Chowk.
hope you write more.
#26 Posted by SameerJB on March 2, 2002 4:07:34 pm
Stuka: I read the article when it just appeared and knew right away that it must be you. Unfortunately, I could not respond more quickly. Hey, we both have one more thing in common - active participants in university level student politics, though my list of crazy involvement in my misspent youth is quite long. Now I am trying to perhaps make up for that period. Unlike your case, we had tacit approval of our activities from Hazrat Zia Ul Haq. From beating up leftists in their dormitory rooms, to firing in the air during leftist rallies to break it up to shouting for Jihad all over including Jupiter and Mars and their moons to stopping Ahmad Faraz from entering the university to not letting Physics department honoring Dr. Abdul Salam for being Ahmedi. Now that was university. I had been to Government College Rawalpindi before that and that is another list. I was a Jamaatia, drinking Murree Brewary`s beer occasionally with other Islamists in Islamabad with never forgetting to say bismillah before taking the first big gulp. Those were the days of a born gemini.
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