Aisha Sarwari March 4, 2002
#114 Posted by ylh on March 6, 2002 7:39:06 pm
Rsaxena,
I am going to tell you one last time. Stop stalking me! Stop calling me. I just called you to let you know that I don`t appreciate such obsessive stalker behavior, and I had no intention of socializing with you. I don`t know how you got my number, but if you call me again, I will take it up legally ... Understand? Take that as a warning. Besides stalking me especially at a time when I have taken on the Islamic terrorists of New Jersey could be hazardous for your health.
The fact ladies and gentlemen is that Rsaxena doesn`t have a life. He is so full of his nonsense that his entire life revolves around somehow making me look bad. It is obvious from his pathetically paindu accent that the man suffers from an inferiority complex which makes him act this way.
Satyavadi,
No actually its quite easy. Think about it a little. We are not living in a hiding. All our phone numbers are out there for everyone.
I am going to tell you one last time. Stop stalking me! Stop calling me. I just called you to let you know that I don`t appreciate such obsessive stalker behavior, and I had no intention of socializing with you. I don`t know how you got my number, but if you call me again, I will take it up legally ... Understand? Take that as a warning. Besides stalking me especially at a time when I have taken on the Islamic terrorists of New Jersey could be hazardous for your health.
The fact ladies and gentlemen is that Rsaxena doesn`t have a life. He is so full of his nonsense that his entire life revolves around somehow making me look bad. It is obvious from his pathetically paindu accent that the man suffers from an inferiority complex which makes him act this way.
Satyavadi,
No actually its quite easy. Think about it a little. We are not living in a hiding. All our phone numbers are out there for everyone.
#113 Posted by rsaxena on March 6, 2002 6:57:50 pm
Re; ylh
{{Sarwari has every right to ask an interactor like Rsaxena not to hog her board with his obsessed BS and try to change the topic.
She wrote the article didn`t she?}}
did she buy Chowk? NO! when she does, she can password protect it and restric access; until then keep your two-cent babble to yourself...you think the Internet is Pakistan, where you restrict free speech, impose arbitrary rules, and beg others to help you?...
{{Sarwari has every right to ask an interactor like Rsaxena not to hog her board with his obsessed BS and try to change the topic.
She wrote the article didn`t she?}}
did she buy Chowk? NO! when she does, she can password protect it and restric access; until then keep your two-cent babble to yourself...you think the Internet is Pakistan, where you restrict free speech, impose arbitrary rules, and beg others to help you?...
#112 Posted by rsaxena on March 6, 2002 4:57:40 pm
re: scout
{{ just admit it, you shouldn`t have brought up those totally `out of context` lines. }}
exactly, `out of context` ;)
{{ just admit it, you shouldn`t have brought up those totally `out of context` lines. }}
exactly, `out of context` ;)
#111 Posted by rsaxena on March 6, 2002 4:57:40 pm
re: satyavadi
{{Cool. BTW, is Saxena such a public or famous figure in NYC }}
you didn`t know? :)
{{Cool. BTW, is Saxena such a public or famous figure in NYC }}
you didn`t know? :)
#110 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on March 6, 2002 4:36:26 pm
``Aisha: If it`s difficult drop it. Get into something else. International relations isn`t your cup of tea. Or else you can turn into another Shireen Mazari and vent your spleen!``
The truth hurts real hard, eh?
Aisha
The truth hurts real hard, eh?
Aisha
#109 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on March 6, 2002 4:17:43 pm
Why can`t posts be more like Mr. Anil`s and Anny`s: beyond the mud rolling? I too am guilty of getting involved in petty arguments.
Rsaxena.
What are you talking about? What trap?
Anny.
You are right, the focus should be on the future, and how we should state our position. Create more media outlets that report straight from Pakistan. etc. But, propaganda is propaganda. It must be labeled as that. This is not Hitler`s day and age where a state sets up a minstry of propaganda. What was problamatic about that confrence was this need I felt to defend with white propaganda. Counter the claims. It`s the very need that may lead us straight to a dead end. By either being distorting and self-critical or curtain our own falts in the process of clarifying. And thanks for the reminder to keep the eye on the goal.
Anil,
Very well said. Insightful post as always. :)
Aisha F Sarwari.
Rsaxena.
What are you talking about? What trap?
Anny.
You are right, the focus should be on the future, and how we should state our position. Create more media outlets that report straight from Pakistan. etc. But, propaganda is propaganda. It must be labeled as that. This is not Hitler`s day and age where a state sets up a minstry of propaganda. What was problamatic about that confrence was this need I felt to defend with white propaganda. Counter the claims. It`s the very need that may lead us straight to a dead end. By either being distorting and self-critical or curtain our own falts in the process of clarifying. And thanks for the reminder to keep the eye on the goal.
Anil,
Very well said. Insightful post as always. :)
Aisha F Sarwari.
#108 Posted by satyavadi on March 6, 2002 4:13:27 pm
YLH #104:::
Cool. BTW, is Saxena such a public or famous figure in NYC that everyone gets his number and all, or you have common friends etc? Again, just curious.
Cool. BTW, is Saxena such a public or famous figure in NYC that everyone gets his number and all, or you have common friends etc? Again, just curious.
#107 Posted by roohi on March 6, 2002 4:13:27 pm
pmishra2 #108
Good to-do list - what about calling all the NRI Gujju groups that were raising money for the earthquake victims and have them raise money for the riot victims ?
urstruly - whatever ... and that`s Rohini to you Mister
Good to-do list - what about calling all the NRI Gujju groups that were raising money for the earthquake victims and have them raise money for the riot victims ?
urstruly - whatever ... and that`s Rohini to you Mister
#106 Posted by pennathur on March 6, 2002 4:13:27 pm
It seems that there are a few good people - Sumit Ganguly, Chibber, Mohammed Ayoob (MSU - wait till you read him) - who can put forward some simple truths even at UCB.
And of course truth hurts - real hard!
Aisha: If it`s difficult drop it. Get into something else. International relations isn`t your cup of tea. Or else you can turn into another Shireen Mazari and vent your spleen!
And of course truth hurts - real hard!
Aisha: If it`s difficult drop it. Get into something else. International relations isn`t your cup of tea. Or else you can turn into another Shireen Mazari and vent your spleen!
#105 Posted by pmishra2 on March 6, 2002 3:44:47 pm
ras #95
Thanks for posting this newsarticle. You can read several such in the Indian Press, including a particularly heart-rending one describing the death of ex-parliamentarian Ehsan Jaffrey.
As an NRI I cannot do much in Ahmedabad itself. However, I do make the following commitment:
(1) Within 90 days have the VHP-USA`s tax-exempt status revoked in the USA
(2) Within 180 days send copies of NYTimes article describing VHP`s role in organizing killings to every institution they interact with
in the USA. Lets see how these people feel when their neighbors realize they are living next to an organization that promotes ``revenge killings``.
(3) Within 365 days help initiate legal action against the Indian state for failing to protect its citizens in Ahmedabad.
Here is the NYTimes link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/05/international/asia/05INDI.html
I will have 5000 copies of this article duplicated.
If every indian does a small step, we will go a long way to taming these animals.
Thanks for posting this newsarticle. You can read several such in the Indian Press, including a particularly heart-rending one describing the death of ex-parliamentarian Ehsan Jaffrey.
As an NRI I cannot do much in Ahmedabad itself. However, I do make the following commitment:
(1) Within 90 days have the VHP-USA`s tax-exempt status revoked in the USA
(2) Within 180 days send copies of NYTimes article describing VHP`s role in organizing killings to every institution they interact with
in the USA. Lets see how these people feel when their neighbors realize they are living next to an organization that promotes ``revenge killings``.
(3) Within 365 days help initiate legal action against the Indian state for failing to protect its citizens in Ahmedabad.
Here is the NYTimes link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/05/international/asia/05INDI.html
I will have 5000 copies of this article duplicated.
If every indian does a small step, we will go a long way to taming these animals.
#104 Posted by Urstruly on March 6, 2002 2:33:16 pm
roohi-dhooi # 102
In the last post you were claiming that there are human beings who live on your side and we should recognize that and in this post you claim that there are donkeys living on both sides (i detest that). I think you better make up your mind or stick with diaper changing and potty training instead of sticking your nose in international affairs and spreading hindu brand hate-what would your kids say about their mommy when they will grow up. Try not to raise them as you and they will love you forever.
In the last post you were claiming that there are human beings who live on your side and we should recognize that and in this post you claim that there are donkeys living on both sides (i detest that). I think you better make up your mind or stick with diaper changing and potty training instead of sticking your nose in international affairs and spreading hindu brand hate-what would your kids say about their mommy when they will grow up. Try not to raise them as you and they will love you forever.
#103 Posted by roohi on March 6, 2002 2:09:03 pm
Sound #94 thanks for finding words for thoughts my sleep deprived brain couldn`t :-)
#102 Posted by ylh on March 6, 2002 2:09:03 pm
Sarwari has every right to ask an interactor like Rsaxena not to hog her board with his obsessed BS and try to change the topic.
She wrote the article didn`t she?
#101 Posted by ylh on March 6, 2002 2:09:03 pm
Satyavadi,
I was curious to find out why some sorry ass pathetic klunk on the name of India even, has been so obsessed with me as to first pose as Ali2 on another message board, ask me a totally irrelevant question and then post one line out of my complete reply.
I find Rsaxena`s stalking most distasteful. I just simply asked him to leave me alone and that I had no beef with him so he shouldn`t assume that he has a beef with me.
Sincerely
YLH
I was curious to find out why some sorry ass pathetic klunk on the name of India even, has been so obsessed with me as to first pose as Ali2 on another message board, ask me a totally irrelevant question and then post one line out of my complete reply.
I find Rsaxena`s stalking most distasteful. I just simply asked him to leave me alone and that I had no beef with him so he shouldn`t assume that he has a beef with me.
Sincerely
YLH
#100 Posted by roohi on March 6, 2002 2:09:03 pm
Sorry - that last post was for Romair #90 ... it`s hard to think or type while trying to keep my terrible two from killing each other ... which is why Romair I`ll try and answer your amnesty question another time - when said brats are napping (if ever !!!)
#99 Posted by roohi on March 6, 2002 2:09:03 pm
what would you like me to say ? ... gadhe idhar bhi heiN aur udhar bhi ... Siachen is a waste of human life ... no arguments there ...
the difference between Kargil and Siachen is my humble opinion is the lousy TIMING
Kargil derailed the first serious attempt in recent years by Indian and Pak leaders at peace - Feb 1999 Atal Bihari went to Lahore on a Bus and visited the Minar-e-Pakistan and read ``Jang na hone denge`` and by that summer someone was shooting at the Indian Army in Kargil (yetis, abominable snowmen, saintly ``freedom fighters``, certainly not the Pakistani Army according to Gen. Mushyrat)
Also, Kargil is not a baraf ka tilla but a place where people live
and Lt. saurav & co were tortured - a first for indo-pak conflict in 3 wars, my theory is that some of Mushys paltu ``freedom fighters`` may have done it and some fine Pak Army officer made sure the bodies were handed over even though they didn`t have to, because it was the right thing to do
Chibber is not selling himself as an aman-ka-farishta now is he - lekin aap ko bura lagta hai toh sorry ki aap ke uncle ji ko bura bhala kaha :-)
the difference between Kargil and Siachen is my humble opinion is the lousy TIMING
Kargil derailed the first serious attempt in recent years by Indian and Pak leaders at peace - Feb 1999 Atal Bihari went to Lahore on a Bus and visited the Minar-e-Pakistan and read ``Jang na hone denge`` and by that summer someone was shooting at the Indian Army in Kargil (yetis, abominable snowmen, saintly ``freedom fighters``, certainly not the Pakistani Army according to Gen. Mushyrat)
Also, Kargil is not a baraf ka tilla but a place where people live
and Lt. saurav & co were tortured - a first for indo-pak conflict in 3 wars, my theory is that some of Mushys paltu ``freedom fighters`` may have done it and some fine Pak Army officer made sure the bodies were handed over even though they didn`t have to, because it was the right thing to do
Chibber is not selling himself as an aman-ka-farishta now is he - lekin aap ko bura lagta hai toh sorry ki aap ke uncle ji ko bura bhala kaha :-)
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