Whose Iqbal — Ours or Theirs?
Zafar Anjum March 11, 2002
#182 Posted by ramyssysix on July 4, 2002 1:30:51 pm
The reality is that Iqbal does not belong to any particular nation. Its because his message is truth and truth is no one`s property. He belongs to the ages. However, Pakistan, being an embodiment of his vision, has every right to claim him as her representative.
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#181 Posted by rsaxena on April 25, 2002 1:12:38 am
semipreciousme,
...i e-mailed you my two cents on the post below...got tired of scrolling around all over :)...
...i e-mailed you my two cents on the post below...got tired of scrolling around all over :)...
#180 Posted by semipreciousme on April 24, 2002 12:40:54 pm
rsaxena:
“ssshhh....not so loudly..didn`t you know, even indians were involved... :)”
….as the estimable hamidm would say….it’s all the horrible hindoos’ fault…:)
“...yeah, that was a weak example, but the middle east stuff was right on... ...actually the article kept mixing the issues of the reach of the media and globalization”
….globalization aside, when you get pummeled with images of people and children being killed, houses being destroyed day after day after day, it’s bound to play on your psyche….
“...but then again, who am i to criticize NY Times writing...”
…lol…btw, did you did read the article i mentioned?…what’d you think?…
“...i wonder about these people sometimes...are they just too stupid to see what they are doing?...do they really believe their own nonsense?...or do they derive some perverse pleasure from the misery they propogate?...what motivates them as individuals?...are they all just hungry for power?...”
….yes, yes, yes, ‘divine’ inspiration and yes….
“...wanna make a bet?... :)”
…tsk, tsk…you’re not dissing women power, now are you?…:)
“...i guess the answer is clear...that`s evil...(but i agree)...”
…actually, she’s gotten much better over the years…i remember when clinton first got elected, there were so many cruel jokes about her doing the rounds…and looks aside, she’s one up on intelligence as compared to bumbling bush’s offspring….
“...so usually what is there to discuss that can`t wait till later?... :)”
…sigh…you wouldn’t understand even if i tried…like never shopping alone, it’s a girl thing…
“perhaps if i show up on a motorcycle, clad in purple, and pull off some bollywood movie stunts (fly over cars, jump from rooftop to rooftop, etc.), she might be compelled to reconsider? :)”
….actually, you might be on to something with that motorcycle thing…ali owns a bona fide harley davidson…
“...so you do dig over the top desi movies?...come on, just fess up...lol...”
…..who wouldn’t dig women kicking men’s butt (in heel no less), waking up with flawlessly applied makeup and salon perfect hair and owning delicious looking jewels and a wardrobe that would put zsa zsa gabor to shame?…:)…but honestly, this is the third pakistani movie i’ve watched….my bravery extends only so far:)….
“never know...some girls think pillsbury doughboy is cute... :)”
….yeah, that hat’s a real turn on…:)
“and now my fav baseball player - Mets catcher Mike Piazza - seems to be experimenting with the rainbow of hair colors...lol...”
….what, is he trying to give dennis rodman some competition?…
“and what`s with jordan`s mr. clean (you know, the bald cleaning man with funny earring) look? ;)...”
….i’ll have you know he looks tres hot….and it’s helluva better than the rainbow-colored hair-enough-holes-in-your-body-to-serve-as-a-spaghetti-strainer look…
…..my em’s ahaque2000@hotmail.com….
“ssshhh....not so loudly..didn`t you know, even indians were involved... :)”
….as the estimable hamidm would say….it’s all the horrible hindoos’ fault…:)
“...yeah, that was a weak example, but the middle east stuff was right on... ...actually the article kept mixing the issues of the reach of the media and globalization”
….globalization aside, when you get pummeled with images of people and children being killed, houses being destroyed day after day after day, it’s bound to play on your psyche….
“...but then again, who am i to criticize NY Times writing...”
…lol…btw, did you did read the article i mentioned?…what’d you think?…
“...i wonder about these people sometimes...are they just too stupid to see what they are doing?...do they really believe their own nonsense?...or do they derive some perverse pleasure from the misery they propogate?...what motivates them as individuals?...are they all just hungry for power?...”
….yes, yes, yes, ‘divine’ inspiration and yes….
“...wanna make a bet?... :)”
…tsk, tsk…you’re not dissing women power, now are you?…:)
“...i guess the answer is clear...that`s evil...(but i agree)...”
…actually, she’s gotten much better over the years…i remember when clinton first got elected, there were so many cruel jokes about her doing the rounds…and looks aside, she’s one up on intelligence as compared to bumbling bush’s offspring….
“...so usually what is there to discuss that can`t wait till later?... :)”
…sigh…you wouldn’t understand even if i tried…like never shopping alone, it’s a girl thing…
“perhaps if i show up on a motorcycle, clad in purple, and pull off some bollywood movie stunts (fly over cars, jump from rooftop to rooftop, etc.), she might be compelled to reconsider? :)”
….actually, you might be on to something with that motorcycle thing…ali owns a bona fide harley davidson…
“...so you do dig over the top desi movies?...come on, just fess up...lol...”
…..who wouldn’t dig women kicking men’s butt (in heel no less), waking up with flawlessly applied makeup and salon perfect hair and owning delicious looking jewels and a wardrobe that would put zsa zsa gabor to shame?…:)…but honestly, this is the third pakistani movie i’ve watched….my bravery extends only so far:)….
“never know...some girls think pillsbury doughboy is cute... :)”
….yeah, that hat’s a real turn on…:)
“and now my fav baseball player - Mets catcher Mike Piazza - seems to be experimenting with the rainbow of hair colors...lol...”
….what, is he trying to give dennis rodman some competition?…
“and what`s with jordan`s mr. clean (you know, the bald cleaning man with funny earring) look? ;)...”
….i’ll have you know he looks tres hot….and it’s helluva better than the rainbow-colored hair-enough-holes-in-your-body-to-serve-as-a-spaghetti-strainer look…
…..my em’s ahaque2000@hotmail.com….
#179 Posted by rsaxena on April 23, 2002 7:46:02 pm
semipreciousme,
{…..you mean 9/11 wasn’t a jewish conspiracy?!?…:)}
ssshhh....not so loudly..didn`t you know, even indians were involved... :)
{{i read that article in the nytimes…it was good but i don’t agree that the war in sierra leone can be in some way blamed on globalization….when ppl are disenfranchised to such an extent, it doesn’t take long for them to pick up a gun and join the rest… }}
...yeah, that was a weak example, but the middle east stuff was right on...actually the article kept mixing the issues of the reach of the media and globalization...the latter is so much more than media coverage...i think the two should be treated separately...but then again, who am i to criticize NY Times writing...
{….i totatlly agree…what pisses me off so much about fundos like omar sheikh and co is that they think by killing/kidnapping jews/americans/whatever, all the problems of the muslim world are going to be solved…they’re the ones screaming bloody murder and urging all these illiterate people to go fight jihad when they won’t do as much as to lift their fat a sses off their plush sofas….how many of these fundos have actually gone to kashmir/palestine/chechnya and ACTUALLY educated/helped/fed the muslims there?}
...i wonder about these people sometimes...are they just too stupid to see what they are doing?...do they really believe their own nonsense?...or do they derive some perverse pleasure from the misery they propogate?...what motivates them as individuals?...are they all just hungry for power?...
{….it pisses me off to no end and i could also rant on and on but then i’d bore you:)…..}
nah, rant on... :)
{{….lol…so asking a guy if he’s a shaved taliban is a new pickup line?…must try it sometime:)…}}
..lol..no no...you had to be there to understand...between her silly grin and way too much unnecessary conversation while the queue grew longer and longer, my colleague just wondered...now if she was attractive, i might have felt flattered...but no such luck :)...
{….hmm…i don’t know…i seriously think if hillary decided to run in 2004 she’d have a chance….}
....wanna make a bet?... :)
{{“...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol”
…..lol….no comment….:)}}
...i guess the answer is clear...that`s evil...(but i agree)...
{{….haven’t you ever been out with a bunch of women at a restaurant or smt and notice that if one decides to go to the bathroom, a couple always go along with her?…. and it’s not even to use the bathroom…more like a gossip-fix-hair-clothes-makeup session……..it pisses of my guy friends to no end and is the butt end of many jokes….}}
...hmm...i dunno...perhaps they`ve done it, and i`ve never really noticed it and naively just assumed they all had to regulate at the same time...lol...so usually what is there to discuss that can`t wait till later?... :)
{…actually, i think she’s really attractive….but like i said her and ali azmat are more or less married so you’re outta luck there….}
...forget ali shali, but her? :( ...lol... how much time till the actual marriage?...perhaps if i show up on a motorcycle, clad in purple, and pull off some bollywood movie stunts (fly over cars, jump from rooftop to rooftop, etc.), she might be compelled to reconsider? :)
{...the one undergoing the myriad dress changes was zara sheikh and the one riding ski boats and kicking butt was meera….yeah, it was a pretty hectic 3 hours:)….}
...so you do dig over the top desi movies?...come on, just fess up...lol...
{….as much as they dig guys in all white…:)}
never know...some girls think pillsbury doughboy is cute... :)
{…lol…yeah, between their rainbow colored suits and tons of chunky gold jewelery, you really do being to wonder where all those millions are going….wait….now that i think about it, i vaguely remember seeing the air god in a red suit or smt….no way!…it couldn’t be…..}
...and now my fav baseball player - Mets catcher Mike Piazza - seems to be experimenting with the rainbow of hair colors...lol...(i shouldn`t make fun of him after some stupid Malaysian barber with poor English managed to accidently put a streak in mine)... i think these dudes get sick of wearing their uniforms, and so when they don`t have to, they express their individuality through gaudy clothes...and what`s with jordan`s mr. clean (you know, the bald cleaning man with funny earring) look? ;)...
btw, what`s your e-mail address?
{…..you mean 9/11 wasn’t a jewish conspiracy?!?…:)}
ssshhh....not so loudly..didn`t you know, even indians were involved... :)
{{i read that article in the nytimes…it was good but i don’t agree that the war in sierra leone can be in some way blamed on globalization….when ppl are disenfranchised to such an extent, it doesn’t take long for them to pick up a gun and join the rest… }}
...yeah, that was a weak example, but the middle east stuff was right on...actually the article kept mixing the issues of the reach of the media and globalization...the latter is so much more than media coverage...i think the two should be treated separately...but then again, who am i to criticize NY Times writing...
{….i totatlly agree…what pisses me off so much about fundos like omar sheikh and co is that they think by killing/kidnapping jews/americans/whatever, all the problems of the muslim world are going to be solved…they’re the ones screaming bloody murder and urging all these illiterate people to go fight jihad when they won’t do as much as to lift their fat a sses off their plush sofas….how many of these fundos have actually gone to kashmir/palestine/chechnya and ACTUALLY educated/helped/fed the muslims there?}
...i wonder about these people sometimes...are they just too stupid to see what they are doing?...do they really believe their own nonsense?...or do they derive some perverse pleasure from the misery they propogate?...what motivates them as individuals?...are they all just hungry for power?...
{….it pisses me off to no end and i could also rant on and on but then i’d bore you:)…..}
nah, rant on... :)
{{….lol…so asking a guy if he’s a shaved taliban is a new pickup line?…must try it sometime:)…}}
..lol..no no...you had to be there to understand...between her silly grin and way too much unnecessary conversation while the queue grew longer and longer, my colleague just wondered...now if she was attractive, i might have felt flattered...but no such luck :)...
{….hmm…i don’t know…i seriously think if hillary decided to run in 2004 she’d have a chance….}
....wanna make a bet?... :)
{{“...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol”
…..lol….no comment….:)}}
...i guess the answer is clear...that`s evil...(but i agree)...
{{….haven’t you ever been out with a bunch of women at a restaurant or smt and notice that if one decides to go to the bathroom, a couple always go along with her?…. and it’s not even to use the bathroom…more like a gossip-fix-hair-clothes-makeup session……..it pisses of my guy friends to no end and is the butt end of many jokes….}}
...hmm...i dunno...perhaps they`ve done it, and i`ve never really noticed it and naively just assumed they all had to regulate at the same time...lol...so usually what is there to discuss that can`t wait till later?... :)
{…actually, i think she’s really attractive….but like i said her and ali azmat are more or less married so you’re outta luck there….}
...forget ali shali, but her? :( ...lol... how much time till the actual marriage?...perhaps if i show up on a motorcycle, clad in purple, and pull off some bollywood movie stunts (fly over cars, jump from rooftop to rooftop, etc.), she might be compelled to reconsider? :)
{...the one undergoing the myriad dress changes was zara sheikh and the one riding ski boats and kicking butt was meera….yeah, it was a pretty hectic 3 hours:)….}
...so you do dig over the top desi movies?...come on, just fess up...lol...
{….as much as they dig guys in all white…:)}
never know...some girls think pillsbury doughboy is cute... :)
{…lol…yeah, between their rainbow colored suits and tons of chunky gold jewelery, you really do being to wonder where all those millions are going….wait….now that i think about it, i vaguely remember seeing the air god in a red suit or smt….no way!…it couldn’t be…..}
...and now my fav baseball player - Mets catcher Mike Piazza - seems to be experimenting with the rainbow of hair colors...lol...(i shouldn`t make fun of him after some stupid Malaysian barber with poor English managed to accidently put a streak in mine)... i think these dudes get sick of wearing their uniforms, and so when they don`t have to, they express their individuality through gaudy clothes...and what`s with jordan`s mr. clean (you know, the bald cleaning man with funny earring) look? ;)...
btw, what`s your e-mail address?
#178 Posted by semipreciousme on April 23, 2002 12:09:25 pm
rsaxena:
“...but that doesn`t mean i see sinister designs and conspiracies in the whole thing...”
…..you mean 9/11 wasn’t a jewish conspiracy?!?…:)
….here’s an articles that captures exactly what I’m trying to say…really good read:
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=285777
…
i read that article in the nytimes…it was good but i don’t agree that the war in sierra leone can be in some way blamed on globalization….when ppl are disenfranchised to such an extent, it doesn’t take long for them to pick up a gun and join the rest…
“we have so many illiterate and poor people, and all these idiots can worry about is religious nonsense and stopping valentine`s day celebrations in bombay...losers...and then our PM becomes an incompetent, indecisive, babbling idiot...”
….i totatlly agree…what pisses me off so much about fundos like omar sheikh and co is that they think by killing/kidnapping jews/americans/whatever, all the problems of the muslim world are going to be solved…they’re the ones screaming bloody murder and urging all these illiterate people to go fight jihad when they won’t do as much as to lift their fat a sses off their plush sofas….how many of these fundos have actually gone to kashmir/palestine/chechnya and ACTUALLY educated/helped/fed the muslims there?….it pisses me off to no end and i could also rant on and on but then i’d bore you:)…..
“...lol...it`s funny you say that...a colleague of mine who witnessed this thought the woman was trying to `chat me up`...yuck... :)”
….lol…so asking a guy if he’s a shaved taliban is a new pickup line?…must try it sometime:)…
“...right on...but i don`t think america is ready for a female pres...it will take many decades before that happens...”
….hmm…i don’t know…i seriously think if hillary decided to run in 2004 she’d have a chance….
“...isn`t it ironic that desis, despite their otherwise horrid treatment of women, have had many female heads of state?...”
….yeah, it seems to amaze ppl to no end…why do you think benazir has such a big fan following in america?….it’s def. NOT her dress sense….
“...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol”
…..lol….no comment….:)
“what?!!...who goes to the bathroom as a posse?...weird :)...”
….haven’t you ever been out with a bunch of women at a restaurant or smt and notice that if one decides to go to the bathroom, a couple always go along with her?…. and it’s not even to use the bathroom…more like a gossip-fix-hair-clothes-makeup session……..it pisses of my guy friends to no end and is the butt end of many jokes….
“...umm, but i`d be willing to trade both of them for that vaneeza ahmed woman you all have...interested? :)...i know she`s not considered anything great in pakistan, but WOW :)....”
…actually, i think she’s really attractive….but like i said her and ali azmat are more or less married so you’re outta luck there….
“umm, what`s a paindu? :)...(“
….that’s the american equivalent of a hick…
“...what`s the heroine`s name?...”
...the one undergoing the myriad dress changes was zara sheikh and the one riding ski boats and kicking butt was meera….yeah, it was a pretty hectic 3 hours:)….
“...i mean do desi girls secretly dig zebra-patterned turbans and purple suits? :)...”
….as much as they dig guys in all white…:)
“...and why do injured NBA players have the same purple suits when they are on the sidelines?...i mean with their millions, can`t they find a decent suit somewhere?...”
…lol…yeah, between their rainbow colored suits and tons of chunky gold jewelery, you really do being to wonder where all those millions are going….wait….now that i think about it, i vaguely remember seeing the air god in a red suit or smt….no way!…it couldn’t be…..
“...but that doesn`t mean i see sinister designs and conspiracies in the whole thing...”
…..you mean 9/11 wasn’t a jewish conspiracy?!?…:)
….here’s an articles that captures exactly what I’m trying to say…really good read:
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=285777
…
i read that article in the nytimes…it was good but i don’t agree that the war in sierra leone can be in some way blamed on globalization….when ppl are disenfranchised to such an extent, it doesn’t take long for them to pick up a gun and join the rest…
“we have so many illiterate and poor people, and all these idiots can worry about is religious nonsense and stopping valentine`s day celebrations in bombay...losers...and then our PM becomes an incompetent, indecisive, babbling idiot...”
….i totatlly agree…what pisses me off so much about fundos like omar sheikh and co is that they think by killing/kidnapping jews/americans/whatever, all the problems of the muslim world are going to be solved…they’re the ones screaming bloody murder and urging all these illiterate people to go fight jihad when they won’t do as much as to lift their fat a sses off their plush sofas….how many of these fundos have actually gone to kashmir/palestine/chechnya and ACTUALLY educated/helped/fed the muslims there?….it pisses me off to no end and i could also rant on and on but then i’d bore you:)…..
“...lol...it`s funny you say that...a colleague of mine who witnessed this thought the woman was trying to `chat me up`...yuck... :)”
….lol…so asking a guy if he’s a shaved taliban is a new pickup line?…must try it sometime:)…
“...right on...but i don`t think america is ready for a female pres...it will take many decades before that happens...”
….hmm…i don’t know…i seriously think if hillary decided to run in 2004 she’d have a chance….
“...isn`t it ironic that desis, despite their otherwise horrid treatment of women, have had many female heads of state?...”
….yeah, it seems to amaze ppl to no end…why do you think benazir has such a big fan following in america?….it’s def. NOT her dress sense….
“...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol”
…..lol….no comment….:)
“what?!!...who goes to the bathroom as a posse?...weird :)...”
….haven’t you ever been out with a bunch of women at a restaurant or smt and notice that if one decides to go to the bathroom, a couple always go along with her?…. and it’s not even to use the bathroom…more like a gossip-fix-hair-clothes-makeup session……..it pisses of my guy friends to no end and is the butt end of many jokes….
“...umm, but i`d be willing to trade both of them for that vaneeza ahmed woman you all have...interested? :)...i know she`s not considered anything great in pakistan, but WOW :)....”
…actually, i think she’s really attractive….but like i said her and ali azmat are more or less married so you’re outta luck there….
“umm, what`s a paindu? :)...(“
….that’s the american equivalent of a hick…
“...what`s the heroine`s name?...”
...the one undergoing the myriad dress changes was zara sheikh and the one riding ski boats and kicking butt was meera….yeah, it was a pretty hectic 3 hours:)….
“...i mean do desi girls secretly dig zebra-patterned turbans and purple suits? :)...”
….as much as they dig guys in all white…:)
“...and why do injured NBA players have the same purple suits when they are on the sidelines?...i mean with their millions, can`t they find a decent suit somewhere?...”
…lol…yeah, between their rainbow colored suits and tons of chunky gold jewelery, you really do being to wonder where all those millions are going….wait….now that i think about it, i vaguely remember seeing the air god in a red suit or smt….no way!…it couldn’t be…..
#177 Posted by rsaxena on April 22, 2002 6:45:05 pm
semipreciousme,
{{…..gasp!…don’t tell me you’ve bought into that pakistan/islamist inspired myth…:)}}
...oh dear, i better get myself checked out :)...no no...it is the truth...jews run Wall St...jews run the media...they are wealthy, but also active politically...but that doesn`t mean i see sinister designs and conspiracies in the whole thing...
{….neither would most gujrati muslims…i watched an interview of that guy somewhere and it was scary…not much difference b/w him and ppl like fazl-ur-rehman…it’s funny how these hindu/muslim/christian/jewish fundos hate each other but don’t realize how sadly alike they are….}
...i think all sane indians find him disgusting...gujarati muslim or not...in india, until now, the hindu fundos were largely a civil nuisance, nothing more...other than their ayodhya stunt, no one really cared what they did...but gujarat was nasty, and i fear for the country...we have so many illiterate and poor people, and all these idiots can worry about is religious nonsense and stopping valentine`s day celebrations in bombay...losers...and then our PM becomes an incompetent, indecisive, babbling idiot...uhhh, i`ll stop now before i bore you :)...
“...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)......this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol…how do you answer that”
{.should’ve told her you were and asked is she was interested in becoming wife # 4…:)}
...lol...it`s funny you say that...a colleague of mine who witnessed this thought the woman was trying to `chat me up`...yuck... :)
{{….one woman i really admire….i mean can you imagine going through what she did after the whole lewinsky fiasco?….i have all bets on her becoming the first female pres….and she’d do a HECK of a better job than that unholy alliance of bush, fundos and co who prob. think laissez-faire is some is some place to be bombed in afghanistan…}}
...right on...but i don`t think america is ready for a female pres...it will take many decades before that happens...isn`t it ironic that desis, despite their otherwise horrid treatment of women, have had many female heads of state?...
{{….just goes to show….put an elephant on a pedestal and it’d have desis following it in droves…:)}}
...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol
{….i guess shopping in droves is a girl thing….kinda like going to the bathroom as a posse…:) }
what?!!...who goes to the bathroom as a posse?...weird :)...
{…yeah, i’ve seen both…and yes, nice eye candy both of them…too bad you can’t say that for most of the male actors in b-wood….}
...umm, but i`d be willing to trade both of them for that vaneeza ahmed woman you all have...interested? :)...i know she`s not considered anything great in pakistan, but WOW :)....yeah too bad about b-wood actors...i have no problems admitting if some guys are eye-candy, but surely none of the b-wood losers make the cut...i particularly don`t understand the big shah rukh khan fuss...he`s quite unattractive, and doesn`t have much of a personality...and he`s a shorty (not that there`s anything wrong with being short)...
{…..believe it not, one of the heroines went from being a paindu gaon-ki-larki to wearing miniskirts in the span of ONLY 3 hours….i lost count after seeing her in seven different chooridars….}
umm, what`s a paindu? :)...(i can say i know about pakistan after learning important stuff like this...lol)...what`s the heroine`s name?...
{no, thank god, none of the guys were dressed in purple….although during one song, one of them was wearing all black with a black-n-white turban…..yeah, you heard right….but that said, the cinematography was really nice…crisp editing….and no shrieking/wailing being passed off as singing….infact, very much like a b-wood film…:) }
...i always wonder, exactly whom are these films targetting with their funky outfits for men?...i mean do desi girls secretly dig zebra-patterned turbans and purple suits? :)...why else would the directors put them in there...am i missing something here? :)...and why do injured NBA players have the same purple suits when they are on the sidelines?...i mean with their millions, can`t they find a decent suit somewhere?...
{{…..gasp!…don’t tell me you’ve bought into that pakistan/islamist inspired myth…:)}}
...oh dear, i better get myself checked out :)...no no...it is the truth...jews run Wall St...jews run the media...they are wealthy, but also active politically...but that doesn`t mean i see sinister designs and conspiracies in the whole thing...
{….neither would most gujrati muslims…i watched an interview of that guy somewhere and it was scary…not much difference b/w him and ppl like fazl-ur-rehman…it’s funny how these hindu/muslim/christian/jewish fundos hate each other but don’t realize how sadly alike they are….}
...i think all sane indians find him disgusting...gujarati muslim or not...in india, until now, the hindu fundos were largely a civil nuisance, nothing more...other than their ayodhya stunt, no one really cared what they did...but gujarat was nasty, and i fear for the country...we have so many illiterate and poor people, and all these idiots can worry about is religious nonsense and stopping valentine`s day celebrations in bombay...losers...and then our PM becomes an incompetent, indecisive, babbling idiot...uhhh, i`ll stop now before i bore you :)...
“...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)......this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol…how do you answer that”
{.should’ve told her you were and asked is she was interested in becoming wife # 4…:)}
...lol...it`s funny you say that...a colleague of mine who witnessed this thought the woman was trying to `chat me up`...yuck... :)
{{….one woman i really admire….i mean can you imagine going through what she did after the whole lewinsky fiasco?….i have all bets on her becoming the first female pres….and she’d do a HECK of a better job than that unholy alliance of bush, fundos and co who prob. think laissez-faire is some is some place to be bombed in afghanistan…}}
...right on...but i don`t think america is ready for a female pres...it will take many decades before that happens...isn`t it ironic that desis, despite their otherwise horrid treatment of women, have had many female heads of state?...
{{….just goes to show….put an elephant on a pedestal and it’d have desis following it in droves…:)}}
...are you implying chelsea looks like an elephant?...lol
{….i guess shopping in droves is a girl thing….kinda like going to the bathroom as a posse…:) }
what?!!...who goes to the bathroom as a posse?...weird :)...
{…yeah, i’ve seen both…and yes, nice eye candy both of them…too bad you can’t say that for most of the male actors in b-wood….}
...umm, but i`d be willing to trade both of them for that vaneeza ahmed woman you all have...interested? :)...i know she`s not considered anything great in pakistan, but WOW :)....yeah too bad about b-wood actors...i have no problems admitting if some guys are eye-candy, but surely none of the b-wood losers make the cut...i particularly don`t understand the big shah rukh khan fuss...he`s quite unattractive, and doesn`t have much of a personality...and he`s a shorty (not that there`s anything wrong with being short)...
{…..believe it not, one of the heroines went from being a paindu gaon-ki-larki to wearing miniskirts in the span of ONLY 3 hours….i lost count after seeing her in seven different chooridars….}
umm, what`s a paindu? :)...(i can say i know about pakistan after learning important stuff like this...lol)...what`s the heroine`s name?...
{no, thank god, none of the guys were dressed in purple….although during one song, one of them was wearing all black with a black-n-white turban…..yeah, you heard right….but that said, the cinematography was really nice…crisp editing….and no shrieking/wailing being passed off as singing….infact, very much like a b-wood film…:) }
...i always wonder, exactly whom are these films targetting with their funky outfits for men?...i mean do desi girls secretly dig zebra-patterned turbans and purple suits? :)...why else would the directors put them in there...am i missing something here? :)...and why do injured NBA players have the same purple suits when they are on the sidelines?...i mean with their millions, can`t they find a decent suit somewhere?...
#176 Posted by semipreciousme on April 22, 2002 2:00:31 pm
rsaxena:
“...just reaffirms the power of the jewish-american lobby...”
…..gasp!…don’t tell me you’ve bought into that pakistan/islamist inspired myth…:)
“...(i wouldn`t shed a tear if someone assassinates that guy..really!)...”
….neither would most gujrati muslims…i watched an interview of that guy somewhere and it was scary…not much difference b/w him and ppl like fazl-ur-rehman…it’s funny how these hindu/muslim/christian/jewish fundos hate each other but don’t realize how sadly alike they are….
“...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)......this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol…how do you answer that”
….should’ve told her you were and asked is she was interested in becoming wife # 4…:)
“...true :)...actually, hillary`s quite the mover-n-shaker in new york these days...i attended some gathering where they both showed up, and she had a bigger crowd around her!...i went and joined the crowd around bill lest he felt lonely :)”
….one woman i really admire….i mean can you imagine going through what she did after the whole lewinsky fiasco?….i have all bets on her becoming the first female pres….and she’d do a HECK of a better job than that unholy alliance of bush, fundos and co who prob. think laissez-faire is some is some place to be bombed in afghanistan…
“...and chelsea was/is dating some indian dude at stanford - apparently the maharaja of jodhpur`s son or something - and so she`s got a fan following in india it seems...hilarious...”
….just goes to show….put an elephant on a pedestal and it’d have desis following it in droves…:)
“...but making shopping a social event is what makes it painful :)...lol...i went shopping with my sister all of once, and swore to never, ever do that again...then i made the mistake of letting a colleague convince me to go with her during lunch...never again :)...”
….i guess shopping in droves is a girl thing….kinda like going to the bathroom as a posse…:)
“...like aishwariya rai? :)...(actually, i think sonali bendre is better eye-candy...seen her?)...”
…yeah, i’ve seen both…and yes, nice eye candy both of them…too bad you can’t say that for most of the male actors in b-wood….
“good luck :)...what`a pakistani filum (filum!) like?...do they do 5 songs with 5 dress-changes, including dudes in purple suits, too?...”
…..believe it not, one of the heroines went from being a paindu gaon-ki-larki to wearing miniskirts in the span of ONLY 3 hours….i lost count after seeing her in seven different chooridars….no, thank god, none of the guys were dressed in purple….although during one song, one of them was wearing all black with a black-n-white turban…..yeah, you heard right….but that said, the cinematography was really nice…crisp editing….and no shrieking/wailing being passed off as singing….infact, very much like a b-wood film…:)
“...just reaffirms the power of the jewish-american lobby...”
…..gasp!…don’t tell me you’ve bought into that pakistan/islamist inspired myth…:)
“...(i wouldn`t shed a tear if someone assassinates that guy..really!)...”
….neither would most gujrati muslims…i watched an interview of that guy somewhere and it was scary…not much difference b/w him and ppl like fazl-ur-rehman…it’s funny how these hindu/muslim/christian/jewish fundos hate each other but don’t realize how sadly alike they are….
“...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)......this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol…how do you answer that”
….should’ve told her you were and asked is she was interested in becoming wife # 4…:)
“...true :)...actually, hillary`s quite the mover-n-shaker in new york these days...i attended some gathering where they both showed up, and she had a bigger crowd around her!...i went and joined the crowd around bill lest he felt lonely :)”
….one woman i really admire….i mean can you imagine going through what she did after the whole lewinsky fiasco?….i have all bets on her becoming the first female pres….and she’d do a HECK of a better job than that unholy alliance of bush, fundos and co who prob. think laissez-faire is some is some place to be bombed in afghanistan…
“...and chelsea was/is dating some indian dude at stanford - apparently the maharaja of jodhpur`s son or something - and so she`s got a fan following in india it seems...hilarious...”
….just goes to show….put an elephant on a pedestal and it’d have desis following it in droves…:)
“...but making shopping a social event is what makes it painful :)...lol...i went shopping with my sister all of once, and swore to never, ever do that again...then i made the mistake of letting a colleague convince me to go with her during lunch...never again :)...”
….i guess shopping in droves is a girl thing….kinda like going to the bathroom as a posse…:)
“...like aishwariya rai? :)...(actually, i think sonali bendre is better eye-candy...seen her?)...”
…yeah, i’ve seen both…and yes, nice eye candy both of them…too bad you can’t say that for most of the male actors in b-wood….
“good luck :)...what`a pakistani filum (filum!) like?...do they do 5 songs with 5 dress-changes, including dudes in purple suits, too?...”
…..believe it not, one of the heroines went from being a paindu gaon-ki-larki to wearing miniskirts in the span of ONLY 3 hours….i lost count after seeing her in seven different chooridars….no, thank god, none of the guys were dressed in purple….although during one song, one of them was wearing all black with a black-n-white turban…..yeah, you heard right….but that said, the cinematography was really nice…crisp editing….and no shrieking/wailing being passed off as singing….infact, very much like a b-wood film…:)
#175 Posted by rsaxena on April 22, 2002 2:00:31 pm
sempreciousme,
wow, check this out :)
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wow, check this out :)
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#174 Posted by rsaxena on April 21, 2002 8:29:04 pm
semipreciousme,
{{…..i don’t think anybody’s decrying them from being cold-blooded…far from it…infact, i think there’s a growing number of americans, esp. after 9/11, who realize that they just can’t stay insular anymore…but how long that goes towards actually changing the biases in the mainstream media is anybody’s guess….it’s not that some of the media isn’t trying…..i was just watching on cnn on what these journalists, from papers like usa today, wash. post, la times, went through after writing articles that were perceived to be ‘pro-palestinian’…..one received 30,000 (yeah, that’s 30,000) emails mostly all from jewish-americans, complaining about his point of view, calling him a terrorist and even sending death threats….the one from the wash. post had both of his cars fire bombed…one even had a funeral wreath sent to him….scary stuff… }}
...just reaffirms the power of the jewish-american lobby...
{{…..i’ll def. read up on it….but if they’re talking about the arab media, well, that’s pretty much hopeless….}}
...it talks about the media in general...how it was supposed to drive globalization and unite us more...yet it often seems to do the opposite...here`s the link to it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/21/magazine/21WWLN.html
{{…tough questions is right…but in the long run, reporting the truth is what it’s all about…for eg..the recent gujrat riots….the media did an excellent job with their and those horrific pictures, imho, stopped the riots from spreading beyond ahmadabad….}}
...well, i must say i just read details of the the riots (on www.tehelka.com) and it made me sick to my stomach...i can see how it might compel certain types of people to more violence...also, from what i read, the riots did not spread because govts in other states took effective preemptive measures...the nazi butcher chief minister of gujarat did nothing...(i wouldn`t shed a tear if someone assassinates that guy..really!)...
{{...let me guess…your turban gave you away?….:)}}
lol...no no...no turbans here :)...it`s just that since the only indians most malaysians have ever seen are south indian, northies like me confuse them...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)...this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol...how do you answer that?...i was speechless...
{{“(bill)?...”
….is there another kind? :)}}
...true :)...actually, hillary`s quite the mover-n-shaker in new york these days...i attended some gathering where they both showed up, and she had a bigger crowd around her!...i went and joined the crowd around bill lest he felt lonely :)...and chelsea was/is dating some indian dude at stanford - apparently the maharaja of jodhpur`s son or something - and so she`s got a fan following in india it seems...hilarious...
{{….well, much more likable than that bumbling idiot, bush….although, i ACTUALLY believed him when he denied ever having “sex with that ms.lewinsky woman”….stupid me…his stature never was the same for me after that…}}
...i`ve struggled with that one...on the one hand, i only care about how he ran the country and not his personal life...to be fallible is only human...but then i guess it isn`t becoming of a president to lie about it the way he did....also, i have a confession: i have this huge weakness of becoming enamored with Yale Law School-types, which is what bill and hillary are :) ...
{{…trust me….big hair and big pants notwithstanding, i would’ve known MUCH better than to dress in ALL white….:)}}
...ok, i`ll accept that you`d know better than that :)...but you would`ve been awfully tempted before your good judgement finally prevailed...lol...
{{….shopping alone is no fun…but i, for the life of me, can’t shop with my mom….too diametrically opposing tastes….}}
...but making shopping a social event is what makes it painful :)...lol...i went shopping with my sister all of once, and swore to never, ever do that again...then i made the mistake of letting a colleague convince me to go with her during lunch...never again :)...
{…..pure eye candy and little else….}
...like aishwariya rai? :)...(actually, i think sonali bendre is better eye-candy...seen her?)...
{{…honestly, no….only when a really good movie comes around….although, that said, i’m going today to watch this new pakistani film that’s been much hyped about…wish me luck…:)}}
good luck :)...what`a pakistani filum (filum!) like?...do they do 5 songs with 5 dress-changes, including dudes in purple suits, too?...
{{…..i don’t think anybody’s decrying them from being cold-blooded…far from it…infact, i think there’s a growing number of americans, esp. after 9/11, who realize that they just can’t stay insular anymore…but how long that goes towards actually changing the biases in the mainstream media is anybody’s guess….it’s not that some of the media isn’t trying…..i was just watching on cnn on what these journalists, from papers like usa today, wash. post, la times, went through after writing articles that were perceived to be ‘pro-palestinian’…..one received 30,000 (yeah, that’s 30,000) emails mostly all from jewish-americans, complaining about his point of view, calling him a terrorist and even sending death threats….the one from the wash. post had both of his cars fire bombed…one even had a funeral wreath sent to him….scary stuff… }}
...just reaffirms the power of the jewish-american lobby...
{{…..i’ll def. read up on it….but if they’re talking about the arab media, well, that’s pretty much hopeless….}}
...it talks about the media in general...how it was supposed to drive globalization and unite us more...yet it often seems to do the opposite...here`s the link to it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/21/magazine/21WWLN.html
{{…tough questions is right…but in the long run, reporting the truth is what it’s all about…for eg..the recent gujrat riots….the media did an excellent job with their and those horrific pictures, imho, stopped the riots from spreading beyond ahmadabad….}}
...well, i must say i just read details of the the riots (on www.tehelka.com) and it made me sick to my stomach...i can see how it might compel certain types of people to more violence...also, from what i read, the riots did not spread because govts in other states took effective preemptive measures...the nazi butcher chief minister of gujarat did nothing...(i wouldn`t shed a tear if someone assassinates that guy..really!)...
{{...let me guess…your turban gave you away?….:)}}
lol...no no...no turbans here :)...it`s just that since the only indians most malaysians have ever seen are south indian, northies like me confuse them...(i hope that is the reason and not that i really look like a shaved taliban!)...this immigration woman demanded to know why i had an indian passport...lol...how do you answer that?...i was speechless...
{{“(bill)?...”
….is there another kind? :)}}
...true :)...actually, hillary`s quite the mover-n-shaker in new york these days...i attended some gathering where they both showed up, and she had a bigger crowd around her!...i went and joined the crowd around bill lest he felt lonely :)...and chelsea was/is dating some indian dude at stanford - apparently the maharaja of jodhpur`s son or something - and so she`s got a fan following in india it seems...hilarious...
{{….well, much more likable than that bumbling idiot, bush….although, i ACTUALLY believed him when he denied ever having “sex with that ms.lewinsky woman”….stupid me…his stature never was the same for me after that…}}
...i`ve struggled with that one...on the one hand, i only care about how he ran the country and not his personal life...to be fallible is only human...but then i guess it isn`t becoming of a president to lie about it the way he did....also, i have a confession: i have this huge weakness of becoming enamored with Yale Law School-types, which is what bill and hillary are :) ...
{{…trust me….big hair and big pants notwithstanding, i would’ve known MUCH better than to dress in ALL white….:)}}
...ok, i`ll accept that you`d know better than that :)...but you would`ve been awfully tempted before your good judgement finally prevailed...lol...
{{….shopping alone is no fun…but i, for the life of me, can’t shop with my mom….too diametrically opposing tastes….}}
...but making shopping a social event is what makes it painful :)...lol...i went shopping with my sister all of once, and swore to never, ever do that again...then i made the mistake of letting a colleague convince me to go with her during lunch...never again :)...
{…..pure eye candy and little else….}
...like aishwariya rai? :)...(actually, i think sonali bendre is better eye-candy...seen her?)...
{{…honestly, no….only when a really good movie comes around….although, that said, i’m going today to watch this new pakistani film that’s been much hyped about…wish me luck…:)}}
good luck :)...what`a pakistani filum (filum!) like?...do they do 5 songs with 5 dress-changes, including dudes in purple suits, too?...
#173 Posted by semipreciousme on April 21, 2002 1:04:59 pm
rsaxena:
“well, i think the more important question then becomes why do american people not want to hear the palesteninian point of view...surely they cannot all be cold-blooded and biased...and surely they have access to the same information through the Internet that you and I do...”
…..i don’t think anybody’s decrying them from being cold-blooded…far from it…infact, i think there’s a growing number of americans, esp. after 9/11, who realize that they just can’t stay insular anymore…but how long that goes towards actually changing the biases in the mainstream media is anybody’s guess….it’s not that some of the media isn’t trying…..i was just watching on cnn on what these journalists, from papers like usa today, wash. post, la times, went through after writing articles that were perceived to be ‘pro-palestinian’…..one received 30,000 (yeah, that’s 30,000) emails mostly all from jewish-americans, complaining about his point of view, calling him a terrorist and even sending death threats….the one from the wash. post had both of his cars fire bombed…one even had a funeral wreath sent to him….scary stuff…
“...having said that, i must confess that i`ve changed my stance on the responsibility of the media...largely because of an article that will appear in this Sunday`s Times Magazine...it talks about how satellite TV has made the divides in the Middle East even greater...”
…..i’ll def. read up on it….but if they’re talking about the arab media, well, that’s pretty much hopeless….
“...how images from TV can provoke hatred in people far away, even if the images are real...i guess journalists do have a responsibility, but it is a complicated task...does it make sense to show riots in one place to people in another if it can provoke even more riots?...but then isn`t journalism supposed simply about reporting the truth?...tough questions...”
…tough questions is right…but in the long run, reporting the truth is what it’s all about…for eg..the recent gujrat riots….the media did an excellent job with their and those horrific pictures, imho, stopped the riots from spreading beyond ahmadabad….
“...i guess better than being accused of being a `shaved taliban` by some malaysian immigration woman the other day...lol...”
...let me guess…your turban gave you away?….:)
“(bill)?...”
….is there another kind? :)….well, much more likable than that bumbling idiot, bush….although, i ACTUALLY believed him when he denied ever having “sex with that ms.lewinsky woman”….stupid me…his stature never was the same for me after that…
“...bad enough...it sometimes frightens me that if countries like the US can`t keep people like that out of positions of power, what chance do we desis have, coming from a culture of corruption and dirty politics...”
…tell me about it….what with asscroft, pickering, abhorrence with anything genetic, stopping desperately needed health aid….you really wonder where this administration’s going…..
“..no no...if you were around, you would`ve donned the bell bottoms and big hair just the same :)...lol...you wouldn`t have known any better...”
…trust me….big hair and big pants notwithstanding, i would’ve known MUCH better than to dress in ALL white….:)
“people should shop alone...i find shopping for myself fun, even if it takes a bit of time...it`s just irritating being dragged around by someone else :)...”
….shopping alone is no fun…but i, for the life of me, can’t shop with my mom….too diametrically opposing tastes….
“...silly asians...that stuff is horrible...lol..it really is...”
…..pure eye candy and little else….
“...do you really watch that stuff?...”
…honestly, no….only when a really good movie comes around….although, that said, i’m going today to watch this new pakistani film that’s been much hyped about…wish me luck…:)
“well, i think the more important question then becomes why do american people not want to hear the palesteninian point of view...surely they cannot all be cold-blooded and biased...and surely they have access to the same information through the Internet that you and I do...”
…..i don’t think anybody’s decrying them from being cold-blooded…far from it…infact, i think there’s a growing number of americans, esp. after 9/11, who realize that they just can’t stay insular anymore…but how long that goes towards actually changing the biases in the mainstream media is anybody’s guess….it’s not that some of the media isn’t trying…..i was just watching on cnn on what these journalists, from papers like usa today, wash. post, la times, went through after writing articles that were perceived to be ‘pro-palestinian’…..one received 30,000 (yeah, that’s 30,000) emails mostly all from jewish-americans, complaining about his point of view, calling him a terrorist and even sending death threats….the one from the wash. post had both of his cars fire bombed…one even had a funeral wreath sent to him….scary stuff…
“...having said that, i must confess that i`ve changed my stance on the responsibility of the media...largely because of an article that will appear in this Sunday`s Times Magazine...it talks about how satellite TV has made the divides in the Middle East even greater...”
…..i’ll def. read up on it….but if they’re talking about the arab media, well, that’s pretty much hopeless….
“...how images from TV can provoke hatred in people far away, even if the images are real...i guess journalists do have a responsibility, but it is a complicated task...does it make sense to show riots in one place to people in another if it can provoke even more riots?...but then isn`t journalism supposed simply about reporting the truth?...tough questions...”
…tough questions is right…but in the long run, reporting the truth is what it’s all about…for eg..the recent gujrat riots….the media did an excellent job with their and those horrific pictures, imho, stopped the riots from spreading beyond ahmadabad….
“...i guess better than being accused of being a `shaved taliban` by some malaysian immigration woman the other day...lol...”
...let me guess…your turban gave you away?….:)
“(bill)?...”
….is there another kind? :)….well, much more likable than that bumbling idiot, bush….although, i ACTUALLY believed him when he denied ever having “sex with that ms.lewinsky woman”….stupid me…his stature never was the same for me after that…
“...bad enough...it sometimes frightens me that if countries like the US can`t keep people like that out of positions of power, what chance do we desis have, coming from a culture of corruption and dirty politics...”
…tell me about it….what with asscroft, pickering, abhorrence with anything genetic, stopping desperately needed health aid….you really wonder where this administration’s going…..
“..no no...if you were around, you would`ve donned the bell bottoms and big hair just the same :)...lol...you wouldn`t have known any better...”
…trust me….big hair and big pants notwithstanding, i would’ve known MUCH better than to dress in ALL white….:)
“people should shop alone...i find shopping for myself fun, even if it takes a bit of time...it`s just irritating being dragged around by someone else :)...”
….shopping alone is no fun…but i, for the life of me, can’t shop with my mom….too diametrically opposing tastes….
“...silly asians...that stuff is horrible...lol..it really is...”
…..pure eye candy and little else….
“...do you really watch that stuff?...”
…honestly, no….only when a really good movie comes around….although, that said, i’m going today to watch this new pakistani film that’s been much hyped about…wish me luck…:)
#172 Posted by rsaxena on April 20, 2002 11:26:28 pm
re: semipreciousme
{{….so just because their readers don’t want to hear about the palestinian point of view, they shouldn’t bother tackling it fairly?….}}
well, i think the more important question then becomes why do american people not want to hear the palesteninian point of view...surely they cannot all be cold-blooded and biased...and surely they have access to the same information through the Internet that you and I do...
...having said that, i must confess that i`ve changed my stance on the responsibility of the media...largely because of an article that will appear in this Sunday`s Times Magazine...it talks about how satellite TV has made the divides in the Middle East even greater...how images from TV can provoke hatred in people far away, even if the images are real...i guess journalists do have a responsibility, but it is a complicated task...does it make sense to show riots in one place to people in another if it can provoke even more riots?...but then isn`t journalism supposed simply about reporting the truth?...tough questions...
{{….sheesh…ain’t that the truth….insular to the point of absurdity….i still remember a friend asking me whether there were any houses in pakistan….houses, for god’s sake!….if only they could check out some of the mansions in defence or smt….}}
i`ve heard my share of `do-you-have-TVs-in-India` type questions...but expectedly, it has improved since i first moved to the US...and it is better in cities than in suburbs and in the heartland...don`t know if you`ve ever experienced this, but in the heartland some people have never seen a desi...some fellow once thought i was an illegal south american laborer...i guess better than being accused of being a `shaved taliban` by some malaysian immigration woman the other day...lol...
{{…yeah, and dan quyale with his p-o-t-a-t-o-e….and correct me if i’m wrong, but when the debates for the 2000 pres. elections were going on, didn’t bush think the taliban were some rock band or smt?….}}
i`m not sure if it was in a debate or some interview, but, yeah, i do remember reading that...hilarious...he has bunch of classic lines...lemme see if i can dig up where i read a compilation of them...
{{…that is a little extreme i admit…everyone’s got their drawbacks, i guess….bush, christain fundos & co aren’t exactly the epitome of sagacity….}}
...no, they surely are not...say, what do you think of clinton (bill)?...
{{…btw, re: asscroft…i did a google….sorry, he wasn’t a regular contributor to the magazine….he gave an interview to it and praised it….}}
...bad enough...it sometimes frightens me that if countries like the US can`t keep people like that out of positions of power, what chance do we desis have, coming from a culture of corruption and dirty politics...
{{…if it was, i’m glad i wasn’t around :)…}}
..no no...if you were around, you would`ve donned the bell bottoms and big hair just the same :)...lol...you wouldn`t have known any better....fashion is so much about trends...and trends are always a function of time...i bet you the modern 24th century man and woman, clad in his/her electronic-skin clothes will mock our fashion sense :)....
{{….lol…i, too, have yet to understand the phenomenon of watching cars go round and round and round and round…..}}
...it really is so silly...i mean toddlers enjoy fast things going round and round...it keeps them entertained because their other senses have yet to develop...but adults??...
{{…..suppose??…i’ll have you know that this is undeniably a feat….imagine going to a shoe store and competing with a dozen well-proportioned aunties with lungs that would put a newborn baby to shame harassing the poor salesmen till they’re literally spinning around in circles….}}
...lol...oh my, now i know why i make sure to never even pass through the women`s shoe section while navigating a department store...i`d probably be risking injury...people should shop alone...i find shopping for myself fun, even if it takes a bit of time...it`s just irritating being dragged around by someone else :)...
{{…actually, indian films are big all over asia from what i hear…if pak. ever let indian movies play in movie theatres, bollywood would be rolling in some mega $$$…..}
...silly asians...that stuff is horrible...lol..it really is...i can`t remember the last time i watched one of those things...do you really watch that stuff?...
{{….so just because their readers don’t want to hear about the palestinian point of view, they shouldn’t bother tackling it fairly?….}}
well, i think the more important question then becomes why do american people not want to hear the palesteninian point of view...surely they cannot all be cold-blooded and biased...and surely they have access to the same information through the Internet that you and I do...
...having said that, i must confess that i`ve changed my stance on the responsibility of the media...largely because of an article that will appear in this Sunday`s Times Magazine...it talks about how satellite TV has made the divides in the Middle East even greater...how images from TV can provoke hatred in people far away, even if the images are real...i guess journalists do have a responsibility, but it is a complicated task...does it make sense to show riots in one place to people in another if it can provoke even more riots?...but then isn`t journalism supposed simply about reporting the truth?...tough questions...
{{….sheesh…ain’t that the truth….insular to the point of absurdity….i still remember a friend asking me whether there were any houses in pakistan….houses, for god’s sake!….if only they could check out some of the mansions in defence or smt….}}
i`ve heard my share of `do-you-have-TVs-in-India` type questions...but expectedly, it has improved since i first moved to the US...and it is better in cities than in suburbs and in the heartland...don`t know if you`ve ever experienced this, but in the heartland some people have never seen a desi...some fellow once thought i was an illegal south american laborer...i guess better than being accused of being a `shaved taliban` by some malaysian immigration woman the other day...lol...
{{…yeah, and dan quyale with his p-o-t-a-t-o-e….and correct me if i’m wrong, but when the debates for the 2000 pres. elections were going on, didn’t bush think the taliban were some rock band or smt?….}}
i`m not sure if it was in a debate or some interview, but, yeah, i do remember reading that...hilarious...he has bunch of classic lines...lemme see if i can dig up where i read a compilation of them...
{{…that is a little extreme i admit…everyone’s got their drawbacks, i guess….bush, christain fundos & co aren’t exactly the epitome of sagacity….}}
...no, they surely are not...say, what do you think of clinton (bill)?...
{{…btw, re: asscroft…i did a google….sorry, he wasn’t a regular contributor to the magazine….he gave an interview to it and praised it….}}
...bad enough...it sometimes frightens me that if countries like the US can`t keep people like that out of positions of power, what chance do we desis have, coming from a culture of corruption and dirty politics...
{{…if it was, i’m glad i wasn’t around :)…}}
..no no...if you were around, you would`ve donned the bell bottoms and big hair just the same :)...lol...you wouldn`t have known any better....fashion is so much about trends...and trends are always a function of time...i bet you the modern 24th century man and woman, clad in his/her electronic-skin clothes will mock our fashion sense :)....
{{….lol…i, too, have yet to understand the phenomenon of watching cars go round and round and round and round…..}}
...it really is so silly...i mean toddlers enjoy fast things going round and round...it keeps them entertained because their other senses have yet to develop...but adults??...
{{…..suppose??…i’ll have you know that this is undeniably a feat….imagine going to a shoe store and competing with a dozen well-proportioned aunties with lungs that would put a newborn baby to shame harassing the poor salesmen till they’re literally spinning around in circles….}}
...lol...oh my, now i know why i make sure to never even pass through the women`s shoe section while navigating a department store...i`d probably be risking injury...people should shop alone...i find shopping for myself fun, even if it takes a bit of time...it`s just irritating being dragged around by someone else :)...
{{…actually, indian films are big all over asia from what i hear…if pak. ever let indian movies play in movie theatres, bollywood would be rolling in some mega $$$…..}
...silly asians...that stuff is horrible...lol..it really is...i can`t remember the last time i watched one of those things...do you really watch that stuff?...
#171 Posted by semipreciousme on April 20, 2002 9:36:44 pm
rsaxena:
“...absolutely...but if their views consistently reflect biases that their readers vehemently oppose, wouldn`t they eventually suffer their fate and be marginalized?...”
….so just because their readers don’t want to hear about the palestinian point of view, they shouldn’t bother tackling it fairly?….
“...i still seethe over some of their writers` continued portrayal of the subcontinent as little more than some exotic snake charmer land...”
….sheesh…ain’t that the truth….insular to the point of absurdity….i still remember a friend asking me whether there were any houses in pakistan….houses, for god’s sake!….if only they could check out some of the mansions in defence or smt….
“...they`re def not the cerebral bunch...what with bush mumbling through sublimininimimial and all..”
…yeah, and dan quyale with his p-o-t-a-t-o-e….and correct me if i’m wrong, but when the debates for the 2000 pres. elections were going on, didn’t bush think the taliban were some rock band or smt?….
“...he basically wanted to go after all industries that produced large profits or did anything even remotely harmful to the environment....of course i wouldn`t like a company dumping nuclear waste in our waters, but you have to be reasonable about it...in effect, what he wanted was to shut down every large corporation...or maybe that was just his election platform?...”
…that is a little extreme i admit…everyone’s got their drawbacks, i guess….bush, christain fundos & co aren’t exactly the epitome of sagacity….
…btw, re: asscroft…i did a google….sorry, he wasn’t a regular contributor to the magazine….he gave an interview to it and praised it….here’re some of the links:
{Southern Partisan: ``Setting the Record Straight``
Attorney general nominee praised white supremacist magazine
http://www.fair.org/press-releases/southern-partisan.html}
{Ashcroft and Racism: Breaking the Code
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0118-09.htm}
{The Triumph of Neoracism:
What John Ashcroft Learned from David Duke
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0122-04.htm}
“...i know it was tacky, but supposedly isn`t that what the 70s were all about? :) …”
…if it was, i’m glad i wasn’t around :)…
“(disclaimer: personally, i don`t care much for the car thing...i was in malaysia last month when the nascar race happened ...i couldn`t understand what all the fuss was about...go to a crowded place, sit in the hot sun, smell burnt rubber, and watch the drivers have all the fun)...
….lol…i, too, have yet to understand the phenomenon of watching cars go round and round and round and round…..
“half an hour?...it`s comparatively reasonable i suppose :)...”
…..suppose??…i’ll have you know that this is undeniably a feat….imagine going to a shoe store and competing with a dozen well-proportioned aunties with lungs that would put a newborn baby to shame harassing the poor salesmen till they’re literally spinning around in circles….
“btw, re: amitabh bacchan, it seems he has a god-like following in malaysia...i was astounded as some of the people from a meeting i was in quizzed me for details of his personal life (not that i know or care)...they know his songs, movies, everything...i doubt they understand hindi/urdu, but they watch all the movies, and know all the songs....simply amazing...”
…actually, indian films are big all over asia from what i hear…if pak. ever let indian movies play in movie theatres, bollywood would be rolling in some mega $$$…..
“...absolutely...but if their views consistently reflect biases that their readers vehemently oppose, wouldn`t they eventually suffer their fate and be marginalized?...”
….so just because their readers don’t want to hear about the palestinian point of view, they shouldn’t bother tackling it fairly?….
“...i still seethe over some of their writers` continued portrayal of the subcontinent as little more than some exotic snake charmer land...”
….sheesh…ain’t that the truth….insular to the point of absurdity….i still remember a friend asking me whether there were any houses in pakistan….houses, for god’s sake!….if only they could check out some of the mansions in defence or smt….
“...they`re def not the cerebral bunch...what with bush mumbling through sublimininimimial and all..”
…yeah, and dan quyale with his p-o-t-a-t-o-e….and correct me if i’m wrong, but when the debates for the 2000 pres. elections were going on, didn’t bush think the taliban were some rock band or smt?….
“...he basically wanted to go after all industries that produced large profits or did anything even remotely harmful to the environment....of course i wouldn`t like a company dumping nuclear waste in our waters, but you have to be reasonable about it...in effect, what he wanted was to shut down every large corporation...or maybe that was just his election platform?...”
…that is a little extreme i admit…everyone’s got their drawbacks, i guess….bush, christain fundos & co aren’t exactly the epitome of sagacity….
…btw, re: asscroft…i did a google….sorry, he wasn’t a regular contributor to the magazine….he gave an interview to it and praised it….here’re some of the links:
{Southern Partisan: ``Setting the Record Straight``
Attorney general nominee praised white supremacist magazine
http://www.fair.org/press-releases/southern-partisan.html}
{Ashcroft and Racism: Breaking the Code
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0118-09.htm}
{The Triumph of Neoracism:
What John Ashcroft Learned from David Duke
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0122-04.htm}
“...i know it was tacky, but supposedly isn`t that what the 70s were all about? :) …”
…if it was, i’m glad i wasn’t around :)…
“(disclaimer: personally, i don`t care much for the car thing...i was in malaysia last month when the nascar race happened ...i couldn`t understand what all the fuss was about...go to a crowded place, sit in the hot sun, smell burnt rubber, and watch the drivers have all the fun)...
….lol…i, too, have yet to understand the phenomenon of watching cars go round and round and round and round…..
“half an hour?...it`s comparatively reasonable i suppose :)...”
…..suppose??…i’ll have you know that this is undeniably a feat….imagine going to a shoe store and competing with a dozen well-proportioned aunties with lungs that would put a newborn baby to shame harassing the poor salesmen till they’re literally spinning around in circles….
“btw, re: amitabh bacchan, it seems he has a god-like following in malaysia...i was astounded as some of the people from a meeting i was in quizzed me for details of his personal life (not that i know or care)...they know his songs, movies, everything...i doubt they understand hindi/urdu, but they watch all the movies, and know all the songs....simply amazing...”
…actually, indian films are big all over asia from what i hear…if pak. ever let indian movies play in movie theatres, bollywood would be rolling in some mega $$$…..
#170 Posted by rsaxena on April 18, 2002 2:49:09 pm
semipreciousme
btw, re: amitabh bacchan, it seems he has a god-like following in malaysia...i was astounded as some of the people from a meeting i was in quizzed me for details of his personal life (not that i know or care)...they know his songs, movies, everything...i doubt they understand hindi/urdu, but they watch all the movies, and know all the songs....simply amazing...
btw, re: amitabh bacchan, it seems he has a god-like following in malaysia...i was astounded as some of the people from a meeting i was in quizzed me for details of his personal life (not that i know or care)...they know his songs, movies, everything...i doubt they understand hindi/urdu, but they watch all the movies, and know all the songs....simply amazing...
#169 Posted by rsaxena on April 18, 2002 2:49:09 pm
semipreciousme,
{{…please….i could rattle off a bunch of periodicals that cover food/culture/fashion just as well…my beef is with their decidedly one-sided coverage sometimes…i mean when they’re one of the most influential/popular newspapers around…doesn’t that come with a caveat for responsible journalism?…}}
...absolutely...but if their views consistently reflect biases that their readers vehemently oppose, wouldn`t they eventually suffer their fate and be marginalized?...not to say that i personally agree with their positions or approach...i still seethe over some of their writers` continued portrayal of the subcontinent as little more than some exotic snake charmer land...but i view the paper less as an establishment and more as a collection of unique individuals....i`m too enamored with 2 of their writers on food & culture/fashion to let go :)...
{{…..you would THINK it’s common sense….but too much to expect from republicans, i guess…..}}
...they`re def not the cerebral bunch...what with bush mumbling through sublimininimimial and all..
{{….i don’t know about his views on the economy, but he makes so much sense when it comes to foreign policy (which the american voters couldn’t give two hoots about), judicial and educational reforms….}}
...his roots are in consumer advocacy...he basically wanted to go after all industries that produced large profits or did anything even remotely harmful to the environment....of course i wouldn`t like a company dumping nuclear waste in our waters, but you have to be reasonable about it...in effect, what he wanted was to shut down every large corporation...or maybe that was just his election platform?...
{{.don’t worry….he’s not getting elected any time soon…he barely got 5% of the votes last time..}}
...true... but it`s good that he adds the diversity of his views to the public debate by running...
{{…don’t get me wrong….he’s a great actor and all…but that’s still NO excuse for looking the pillsbury dough boy….}}
...i know it was tacky, but supposedly isn`t that what the 70s were all about? :) ...
{{…let me re-rephrase that….what’s ALL women’s fascination with precious metals?….it’s an inherent trait….just like men drool over anything that has wheels, women get excited over big rocks….}}
but at least you can drive the car...the rock just sits there :)...(disclaimer: personally, i don`t care much for the car thing...i was in malaysia last month when the nascar race happened ...i couldn`t understand what all the fuss was about...go to a crowded place, sit in the hot sun, smell burnt rubber, and watch the drivers have all the fun)...
{{…80 hours, huh?…and then men have the gall to whine about how long it takes for women to buy a pair of shoes or smt….:)…..(disclaimer:..i have never spent more than half an hour buying a pair of shoes….really…:))}}
lol...i think you misunderstood me...80 hours IS how long some women take to buy stuff...half an hour?...it`s comparatively reasonable i suppose :)...
{{…please….i could rattle off a bunch of periodicals that cover food/culture/fashion just as well…my beef is with their decidedly one-sided coverage sometimes…i mean when they’re one of the most influential/popular newspapers around…doesn’t that come with a caveat for responsible journalism?…}}
...absolutely...but if their views consistently reflect biases that their readers vehemently oppose, wouldn`t they eventually suffer their fate and be marginalized?...not to say that i personally agree with their positions or approach...i still seethe over some of their writers` continued portrayal of the subcontinent as little more than some exotic snake charmer land...but i view the paper less as an establishment and more as a collection of unique individuals....i`m too enamored with 2 of their writers on food & culture/fashion to let go :)...
{{…..you would THINK it’s common sense….but too much to expect from republicans, i guess…..}}
...they`re def not the cerebral bunch...what with bush mumbling through sublimininimimial and all..
{{….i don’t know about his views on the economy, but he makes so much sense when it comes to foreign policy (which the american voters couldn’t give two hoots about), judicial and educational reforms….}}
...his roots are in consumer advocacy...he basically wanted to go after all industries that produced large profits or did anything even remotely harmful to the environment....of course i wouldn`t like a company dumping nuclear waste in our waters, but you have to be reasonable about it...in effect, what he wanted was to shut down every large corporation...or maybe that was just his election platform?...
{{.don’t worry….he’s not getting elected any time soon…he barely got 5% of the votes last time..}}
...true... but it`s good that he adds the diversity of his views to the public debate by running...
{{…don’t get me wrong….he’s a great actor and all…but that’s still NO excuse for looking the pillsbury dough boy….}}
...i know it was tacky, but supposedly isn`t that what the 70s were all about? :) ...
{{…let me re-rephrase that….what’s ALL women’s fascination with precious metals?….it’s an inherent trait….just like men drool over anything that has wheels, women get excited over big rocks….}}
but at least you can drive the car...the rock just sits there :)...(disclaimer: personally, i don`t care much for the car thing...i was in malaysia last month when the nascar race happened ...i couldn`t understand what all the fuss was about...go to a crowded place, sit in the hot sun, smell burnt rubber, and watch the drivers have all the fun)...
{{…80 hours, huh?…and then men have the gall to whine about how long it takes for women to buy a pair of shoes or smt….:)…..(disclaimer:..i have never spent more than half an hour buying a pair of shoes….really…:))}}
lol...i think you misunderstood me...80 hours IS how long some women take to buy stuff...half an hour?...it`s comparatively reasonable i suppose :)...
#168 Posted by semipreciousme on April 18, 2002 2:30:22 am
rsaxena:
“ummm, nevermind my question below about liking the NY Times..lol...but politics aside, it is the very, very good when it comes to food, culture, etc..”
…please….i could rattle off a bunch of periodicals that cover food/culture/fashion just as well…my beef is with their decidedly one-sided coverage sometimes…i mean when they’re one of the most influential/popular newspapers around…doesn’t that come with a caveat for responsible journalism?…
“haha...i knew that was coming :)”
...yeah, that’s one of my sore buttons:)….
“really?..which magazine?..why didn`t the democrats jump all over that..”
…smt i read somewhere….let me do a google and see
if i can dig it up….
“...how stupid to not realize that forcing unwanted child births increase welfare rolls for a variety of obvious reasons...”
…..you would THINK it’s common sense….but too much to expect from republicans, i guess…..
“hmm...that fellow is a bit impractical, isn`t he?...he wanted to take on all industries at once...and force many to completely shutdown...fine, but then he never had a plan for restoring jobs that would be lost as a result”
….i don’t know about his views on the economy, but he makes so much sense when it comes to foreign policy (which the american voters couldn’t give two hoots about), judicial and educational reforms….
“...i worry he`d cause an economic crisis...”
….don’t worry….he’s not getting elected any time soon…he barely got 5% of the votes last time..
“be nice!...i used to watch only amitabh bachan movies when i was young(er) :)...i`ve seen all his bell bottom pants, shirts with big collars, funky sideburns, etc....i dunno...i think he pulled it off considering that it was the 70s”
…don’t get me wrong….he’s a great actor and all…but that’s still NO excuse for looking the pillsbury dough boy….
“ok, let me rephrase..lol..what`s desi women`s fascination with `precious` metals? :)...”
…let me re-rephrase that….what’s ALL women’s fascination with precious metals?….it’s an inherent trait….just like men drool over anything that has wheels, women get excited over big rocks….
“...(only if it doesn`t involve spending 80 hours looking for one article of clothing :)”
…80 hours, huh?…and then men have the gall to whine about how long it takes for women to buy a pair of shoes or smt….:)…..(disclaimer:..i have never spent more than half an hour buying a pair of shoes….really…:))
“ummm, nevermind my question below about liking the NY Times..lol...but politics aside, it is the very, very good when it comes to food, culture, etc..”
…please….i could rattle off a bunch of periodicals that cover food/culture/fashion just as well…my beef is with their decidedly one-sided coverage sometimes…i mean when they’re one of the most influential/popular newspapers around…doesn’t that come with a caveat for responsible journalism?…
“haha...i knew that was coming :)”
...yeah, that’s one of my sore buttons:)….
“really?..which magazine?..why didn`t the democrats jump all over that..”
…smt i read somewhere….let me do a google and see
if i can dig it up….
“...how stupid to not realize that forcing unwanted child births increase welfare rolls for a variety of obvious reasons...”
…..you would THINK it’s common sense….but too much to expect from republicans, i guess…..
“hmm...that fellow is a bit impractical, isn`t he?...he wanted to take on all industries at once...and force many to completely shutdown...fine, but then he never had a plan for restoring jobs that would be lost as a result”
….i don’t know about his views on the economy, but he makes so much sense when it comes to foreign policy (which the american voters couldn’t give two hoots about), judicial and educational reforms….
“...i worry he`d cause an economic crisis...”
….don’t worry….he’s not getting elected any time soon…he barely got 5% of the votes last time..
“be nice!...i used to watch only amitabh bachan movies when i was young(er) :)...i`ve seen all his bell bottom pants, shirts with big collars, funky sideburns, etc....i dunno...i think he pulled it off considering that it was the 70s”
…don’t get me wrong….he’s a great actor and all…but that’s still NO excuse for looking the pillsbury dough boy….
“ok, let me rephrase..lol..what`s desi women`s fascination with `precious` metals? :)...”
…let me re-rephrase that….what’s ALL women’s fascination with precious metals?….it’s an inherent trait….just like men drool over anything that has wheels, women get excited over big rocks….
“...(only if it doesn`t involve spending 80 hours looking for one article of clothing :)”
…80 hours, huh?…and then men have the gall to whine about how long it takes for women to buy a pair of shoes or smt….:)…..(disclaimer:..i have never spent more than half an hour buying a pair of shoes….really…:))
#167 Posted by rsaxena on April 16, 2002 5:25:20 pm
re: semipreciousme
{{…re:nytimes…like you said, good fish wrapping paper:)….}}
ummm, nevermind my question below about liking the NY Times..lol...but politics aside, it is the very, very good when it comes to food, culture, etc..
{{…re:nytimes…like you said, good fish wrapping paper:)….}}
ummm, nevermind my question below about liking the NY Times..lol...but politics aside, it is the very, very good when it comes to food, culture, etc..
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