How To Survive An American War Movie

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veeresh

ok maybe on the khans, but our zafars are better than yours.



Veero

Allah bachaye Indianon se ..na inke dosti acchi na dushmani achhi

Thats why ``itna hai badnasib Zafar ,Dafan ke liye do gaz zameen na mila koi yaar maine``

Looks like Zafars ( bahudar shah Zafar & Adha Zafar are banished out of india one to RANGOON & the other to SYDNEY .)

Yeh na thhi hamari kismet ke visalle yaar hota ---Ghalib had already predicted

saminashah #31,

remember Sally Field`s ``Not Without My Daughter?``

there were some very derogatory stereotypes in that one.

but then Hollywood is known for stereotyping every race and religion at some point or another.

i personally prefer watching independent and foreign films, which focus on talent and social situations, and not the glamourized, stereotyped, hype Hollywood produces.

i have to say that the newer animated movies such as Monsters Inc. are doing great at providing intelligent entertainment for kids and adults.

long live Pixar!

Ferozk

`another good movie...Border by both India`

Border -- good movie? Recommend it?

re saminashah #31:

There was a very entertaining article in GQ magazine a couple of months ago about this Arab guy who plays the Arab stereotype in so many of the hollywood flicks. The guy was on screen typically for less than a couple of minutes before being blown/shot/thrown out of a helicopter but he made sure those two minutes were memorable :) Check it out.

later

-sac

Another thought:

Hollywood often makes movies that are supportive of US domestic and international policy, whether it be `Birth of a Nation` or `Rules of Engagement` (again, a movie Mr. S and I found so patently offensive that we turned it off) in order to ``prepare`` its citizens for strikes or further policy.

or

US policy and military manuvering (invasions, missile strikes, embargoes) are seen AS the movie-CNN being the film studio/carrier of this narrative. When you consider how tv coverage of the Vietnam war shocked and horrified Americans in their homes (and fueled the anti-war movement), the US govt. really learned from that lesson....

ok maybe on the khans, but our zafars are better than yours.

Here is another good movie...A Bridge Too Far...and my all time favorite...Border by both India and Pakistan and the sequel to it...

...The Phony Politicans: A tale of cowardice and knavery set in a communal setting of lies and superiority complexes...

For more info...check out its website

www.reallosers.org

Ciao

Arjun,

re:``promises``...thats the one...heard interesting interviews with the filmmaker who pointed out the disparites in realities and futures that the Israeli and Palestinian children faced as they grew older.

What about the movie ``Three Kings``? That was pretty damned good, as opposed to that Samuel Jackson godawful movie-``Rules of Engagement``. I lost respect for Mr. Bad after that-Sidney Poitier hit it on the nail when he said it takes several people with vision and courage to stand up the Race Machine in Tinseltown. Hope Mr. Bad heard that part of Poitier`s Oscar speech...Jack Shaheen, author of ``Reel Bad Arabs`` has commented that there are almost no non-stereotypical portrayals of Arabs in Hollywood for the last 20 years...anyone care to comment?

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Favorite war movies: The Longest Day; The Bridge on the River Kwai (love the tune); Das Boot (The Boat). I have a movie in my head of 1965 which I guess will never hit the silver screen but I swear would be a shoo-in for an oscar.

Even better than any war movie: War channels on TV showing actual shots taken at the Battle of Stalingrad, Battle of Kursk, Battle of Midway, and even some jerky shots of WWI scenes.

All Quiet on the Western Front (book is even better), says it all though - particularly the last scene where dead young chap`s hand is reaching out to a butterfly.

Scout,

Glory was very good!

Anyone seen the Israeli-Palestinian movie `Promises`?

Hamid

re: apocalypse now

Er...don`t remember that piece of dialogue being my favorite...but what an anarchic, surrealistic movie.

imran khan? you like that dump of a budha scoutie? well then, guess who i had the most innane conversation with at the dubai airport ;)

Re: Ras # 25

How about M *A *S *H? Ras, it an not an American war movie per se, but do you remember the Blue Max or Das Boot?

Ciao

``Apocalypse Now`` and the ``Deerhunter`` were
excellent.
Anyone remember ``Coming Home``?

Ras

veeresh #23, ``Our Khans are better than yours.``

oh yeah, well all your Khans are short and dumpy who have to wear hidden heels in their shoes....

one Imran Khan is better than all your little Khans combined....not to mention all the squash champion Khans that we have and you don`t so there.....eat your heart out.

Lagaan proves, once again, that organised commercial cricket sux. Big time sux.

Like organised commercial religion.

However. At least it got to the Oscar stage. Which just proves that our movies are better than yours. Our Khans are better than yours. Even our fake goras on hire for movies are better than yours.

Never mind hockey.