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Timestoppers

Bina Shah April 16, 2002

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#82 Posted by dahmed on August 28, 2004 2:20:35 pm
Bina, I laughed my ass off.
Danish
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#81 Posted by khatam-shud on February 7, 2004 7:15:31 am
Bina: Hi! This was nice. very nice.
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#80 Posted by alphaHussain on May 8, 2002 12:19:31 pm
Shah 80

[Contrary to popular reason why Pakistan could not support its muslim classical musician just like for bollywood,laerger consumer market always favoured india]

Typical irresponsible attitude.

http://www.dawn.com/2002/05/07/letted.htm

Farewell to music

The recent ban on the holding of musical functions in educational institutions by the government must be lauded as a step in the right direction. This follows in the footsteps of the ban on all theatre performances and plays.

I would now suggest that a complete ban on all kinds of merriment must be ordered by the enlightened government. Music is a very bad thing and gives rise to all kinds of non-serious feelings. And we are a very serious nation. For example we are very serious about education, as can be gauged from our rate of literacy and the type of education being imparted in our madressahs.

We are also very serious about cleanliness and public sanitation, examples of which are obvious on all our streets, in the hospitals and in all localities. Everybody knows that we are very serious about widening the roads. And if such inconsequential things as trees and old Mughal hydraulic and drainage systems get in our way what better course than to uproot them?

I am glad that we are going back to the last days of the Mughal era when music was ordered to be buried so deep that it would never re-surface (in spite of the fact that a Muslim, Amir Khusro, was the doyen of Indian music composers earlier). We should invite any remnants of the Taliban to guide us in these weighty matters.

Of course, the religious parties are doing a good job but we need the real thing. The Taliban brought a lot of seriousness to Afghanistan and totally eliminated the scourge of laughter. We need the same. We will not offend anybody except Baba Bulleh Shah. But he is dead, so it will not be a problem.

Many years ago, I was a member of the Government College Musical Society. Now of course I know that all the old Principals of that time were not serious-minded at all and did not realize the inherent dangers of music. Unluckily the IJT was not there to point out the evils of happiness to them and to enforce seriousness.

Laughter and all displays of such frivolity must be made criminal offences and we should only be allowed to laugh with the permission of the religious parties who will definitely not give such permission because it encourages immorality. Dancing? Heaven forbid! We should not even think of such silly behaviour. It gives rise to God knows what kind of thoughts. And we are a pure nation.

A complete ban on TV and cinemas must be imposed. We do not need the food of the soul. We need food for the body only, with which we have no problem since we import it when we need it. Food gives us strength and we can produce many many children. What could be better than that?

And of course, we should pay no heed to the fact that we are the laughing stock of the world. That can be dealt with easily by forbidding the world to laugh at us by apprising it of the dangers of music and laughter. And if the world does not listen to us, we can always avoid the great danger posed by music, plays, laughter and any kind of merriment by locking ourselves up in our `char-divari`, wrapping ourselves in our chadars and staying locked up. Only in this way, can we remain `pure`.

But now this is getting confusing and I would now like the guidance of the ulema, particularly Dr Asrar, who gave such a learned discourse on the moral implications of rubbing the cricket ball by the bowlers a few years back.

SYED SALMAN KHALIQ

Lahore



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#79 Posted by Shah on May 7, 2002 1:59:04 am
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#78 Posted by scout on May 6, 2002 1:00:53 pm
jay #78,

i agree with your post, but just thought i`d mention that it`s ``emphasize`` not ``emphesise,`` and it`s ``emphasis`` not ``emphesis.``

don`t mind ok, i just get annoyed at incorrect spellings.



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#77 Posted by jay on May 1, 2002 11:43:04 am
arjun 69,

There are many rich islamic countries, and none of them emphesise education. The notion that every thing is in the book prevents an emphesis on the modern science and technology. Every year there is an islamic science conference in pakistan, allegedly funded by the govt and they talk of jinn energy.

Any of the oil rich countries could have easily created a world renowned centre of education, in the modern sense and none did it. It is well known that since zias islamisation all opf the higher education in pakistan went backwards.

In conclusion, the yearning for education in a society has a lot to do with the world view and as of today there is no evidence that the islamic world view supports that. Spare me the old stories of the universities in damascus and alexandria.



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#76 Posted by soundmeister on April 29, 2002 2:28:59 pm
Reply Shah:

``I neednt tell you about the fallacy of management & Technology inst. of Indias ,that they EXCLUDE the very potentially sucessfull guys like Bill Gates by demanding such high grades which is possible only by skewed , co *ck eyed ,crooked emphasis on scholastic academic mugging that hardly such walking encyclopedias are talented in entrepreneural,imagination ,intiating leadership & socially sucessfull PERSONALITY ,so much more important than SAT or GMAT scores.``

A case of sour grapes perhaps? :))

BTW, just curious..... what are Pakistan`s equivalents of IITs? I`m sure they must be the PITs....harharguffawguffaw (no seriously)



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#75 Posted by semipreciousme on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
arjun_m

“Lame..really.”

….sorry it didn’t read your high standards a la condomland/condomstanis etc, but it wasn’t an attempt at a comeback….just some counsel….



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#74 Posted by rsaxena on April 27, 2002 2:20:00 pm
re: 12-headed retard

...education may not be everything, but it IS important...do try to get one...don`t fear it..it can only help you...



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#73 Posted by Shah on April 26, 2002 10:00:38 pm
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#72 Posted by arjun_m on April 26, 2002 2:50:17 pm
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#71 Posted by arjun_m on April 26, 2002 2:50:17 pm
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#70 Posted by Shah on April 26, 2002 12:08:32 pm
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#69 Posted by ylh on April 26, 2002 12:08:32 pm


Rsaxena,

Unlike you, my posts are not full of `factions` like yours,which you probably heard while flipping channels between Porn and MTV...

When you grow up and get a proper education, you will learn to appreciate my posts.. which you dismiss as delusions...



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#68 Posted by arjun_m on April 26, 2002 12:08:32 pm
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#67 Posted by arjun_m on April 26, 2002 12:08:32 pm
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