The Aga Khani

More lies by 12 headed retard:

It seems that Aamir is in the mood to make up stories... first he created a falsehood about Col.Shahnawaz, a person who was involved in the Pakistan movement after INA had failed and who died as a Pakistani, and now he has come up with the bogus story of Abdul Hamid. Given that in Rann of Kutch Pakistani tanks were on an onslaught.. but the story is of a Pakistani soldier who blew up a tank in the characteristic suicide bombing... not that I want this story to be underscored because it will make us look like those uncouth suicide bombers of Hamas.

YLH wrote:

``Perhaps, it will be important to recall the Islamic identity of Sir Agha Muhammad Khan the grandfather of the current Agha Khan ... who founded the league and was a major force for the creation of Pakistan``

Founding of the league, and the splitting of India did not have to do with the Islamic Identity of those leaders. Mr. Jinnah did not even know how to pray.

These leaders were trying to serve the cause of the Britts, by splitting India up into smaller and smaller parts.

Muslim Leaders like Abul Kalam Azaad and Maududi opposed the idea of creating an ideological state.

Again A typical Indian Muslim Lie we have witnessed in the form of Shah Gul... You sir are an ignorant fool. As for Mullah Azad and Mullah Maudoodi.. do I need to say more... This goes to show that the religious conservatives hated the creation of Pakistan.

Instead of accusing everything on the British, it will do you well to read Ambedkar`s book `Pakistan or Partition of India` who says accusing British maneuvering is proposterous, and to accuse Jinnah to be a tool of the British is not possible, because no sane individual will accuse an incorruptible politician like Jinnah of being a tool of anyone.

But then again, the Majority of Indian muslims led by fools like Imam Bukhari and Rafiq Zakaria, can hardly be described as `SANE`...

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Thank you Prem, for clarifying this point.

It strengthens the Muslim belief that all religions were sent by Allah, in fact, they were all pure Islam, before people changed their form and name. Therefore, it is a sin for me to call Hindu religion bad.

Likewise, suicide bombing and terrorism were never part of Islam. They have entered recently, and defaced islam.

p.s. An uncle of mine (he is 76 now) fought in the 1965 war. When I asked him about the popular myth about Pakistani soldiers throwing themselves under tanks, he denied it catagorically.

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re: ylh

...bharatiya_musalman sends you his best wishes...he regrets his absence from chowk over the past few months (he was busy traveling on his book signing tour), but promises to return shortly...

``.....I suppose the catholicity of his beliefs makes the devotees supra-Islamic.....``

CATHOLOCITY ??????

Catholics are the most unforgiving christians as far as divorce ,abortion ,& inter religous marriage is concerned

This is not Varsey the Agha Khani speaking nor Farzana a muslim speaking but brain wash of, unadulterated pure indias Convent, blindly english WORSHIPPING ,anglican indian urbanite could be punjabi, bengali maharashtrian

re: madani sahaab

...your insights on `coal-like darkies` and `milky goras/goris` are enlightening...please also share with us your perspectives on recent phenomenon of deshis marrying african americans/brits?...

thanks

Ref ylh #: 22

[Perhaps the affidavit signed by Liaqat Ali Khan, and Fatima Jinnah, that the founder of Pakistan was a `Shia Khoja Mohammedan` will stop Pakistanis from ever declaring Ismailis to be Non Muslims.]

Yasser, dear boy, this is the best joke I have heard on Chowk. Has it prevented the Pakistanis from killing Shias? How about last week`s bombing of the Shiite mosque in which 12 women and children were killed?

Since, as you pointed out, the Gujarat riots retro-actively prove that Jinnah and the TNT were right, is it time for the Shias to demand a separate Shiastan out of Pakistan a la Bangladesh?

You are taking the side of Jinnah in the case Jinnah vs. Allah, with self-proclaimed guardians of Allah`s ideology sitting as judges on earth and you expect the long-dead Jinnah to win. That has as much chance of success as did the petition in the Pakistan Supreme Court against the Musharraf referendum. Jinnah has an affidavit but you don`t realize Allah has fatwas. Yet another resounding defeat for Jinnah the famed barrister.

By the way, Asif Naqshbandi Sahib, I discovered that Fatwa Online (www.fatwa-online.com with mirror site www.efatwa.com) has declared Barelvis to be a Deviant Sect of Muslims and lumps them in the same category as Ahmadiyyas. Pakistanis, it is time to declare Barelvis to be non-Muslims!

[As for the `islamic` identity.. I am sure it bites the Hinduvtists and the Gandhians (like you ??), the `Islamic identity` of Farzana Versey who is a secularist Indian.]

The only thing that bites me is the fact those who recommend certain a course of action for others do not want to follow it themselves.

[Perhaps, it will be important to recall the Islamic identity of Sir Agha Muhammad Khan the grandfather of the current Agha Khan ... who founded the league and was a major force for the creation of Pakistan.]

Oh, yeah? Then perhaps it is important to recall Islamic identity of the great-great-great-----grandfather who founded the sect of hashish-crazed Assassins in the land of your forefathers, Iran.

So one of the founders of Pakistan is a descendant of assassins. What about the rest of them? At least, the Aga Khan dynasty has redeemed itself through 6 generations or more of community service.

Ref Chunkey Pandey #: 21

[Talk abour ``who started the fire first``....From Harimou to Dost Mittar why do hindu always support the splinter group of Muslims ...Mukti Bahini ,Awami League ,Shia ,Aga Khani .....]

12-head, if you notice the pattern of my posts, I assault all those who mindlessly swallow the ideological crap put out by thugs and regurgitate it to justify their stupidity.

Anybody who questions established authority will have my support. I am an anarchist at heart and I am all for letting a thousand flowers bloom so long as the flowers are not nurtured on crap.

Ref Shah #: 24

[Bhangi

Gadha ,have some common sense .....if bhangis became muslims ,you would be one of them.Since i thank you, for not having enough sense to grasp & comprehend ,THANK GOD FOR YOU REMAINING BHANGI .BHANGI .What proof is there that you are not HARAMI even as your name suggest?]

Wow! Just what I expected! Not one Bhangi of India converted to Islam to escape the tyranny of the caste system. How come? Better to be slave of the Brahmin than be slave of Allah?

Ref Anika Zaidi #: 23

[Skunk

You missread your own Ramayana into unread part of your putrid upbreaking.

LORD RAMA SAYS DO NOT TRUST WOMEN

Lord Rama is in harmonious agreement with Manusmrti 7:145-153. While lecturing his brother Bharata on how to govern the kingdom, Lord Rama says women are not trustworthy creatures:

``[Rama:] `Do you keep your womenfolk pacified? Are they duly protected by you? I hope you do not repose excessive faith in them and do not confide your secrets to them.` `` -- Ramayana 2:100.]

And Allah says trust a woman only half as much as you trust a man; require two female witnesses for every Muslim male witness. And in a case of rape, double that again.

And your point is?

Fv,

You`re back to fine form. I`ve got a couple of writer questions, if you don`t mind. Let me know if your willing to entertain them.

Death Penalty Sought in Nigeria

Thu Apr 25,11:16 AM ET

MADA, Nigeria (AP) - Muslim prosecutors sought the death penalty for two men accused of converting from Islam to Christianity, a crime for which an Islamic court judge gave the accused men three days to reconvert.



Lawali Yakubu and Ali Jafaru, villagers in their 30s, were accused in the Islamic, or Shariah, court in the northern town of Mada of recently abandoning the Islamic faith and joining the Great Commission Movement, an international Evangelical church with a strong following in Nigeria.

Auwal Jabaka, the court judge, said Wednesday that although the Muslim holy book, or Quran, calls for the execution of Muslims who accept another religion, it was unclear whether the state`s two-year-old Shariah penal code also permitted such a punishment.

Jabaka adjourned the court for three days to allow the accused to ``change their minds`` and convert back to Islam.

In the meantime, he called on the Zamfara government to clarify its position on the matter.

``If the law empowers me to (execute the two for converting from Islam to Christianity), I will have no hesitation in doing that,`` the judge said.

Yakubu and Jafaru were not represented by lawyers but were instead accompanied by fellow church members.

The two argued they had never been Muslims, but were instead members of the Magazawa, a Hausa subgroup that has long practiced Christianity. The overwhelming majority of Hausas — one of Nigeria`s largest tribes — are Muslim.

The case was believed to be the first of its kind since a dozen predominantly Muslim northern states began implementing Shariah law in early 2000, despite virulent opposition from mainly Christian and animist southerners.

In the past two years, thousands of Muslims and Christians have been killed in periodic bursts of inter-religious bloodletting.